Dramacow CommunismKills / Ashley Rae Goldenberg - Perpetually assblasted eternal victim, trolled by tumblr teens, Cuckquean, Wanted money to quit posting hot takes on tumblr; Ex-GF of Matthew Heimbach, a neo-nazi.

Meowthkip

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Ashley getting woke on the (((journo))) conspiracy. Maybe her character arc will lead to her becoming a full blown Andorian.


Nah, I agree with her on this one. Black people already get a whole month, plus MLK's birthday. Meanwhile the holidays celebrating two of our most famous (white) presidents were mashed together into Presidents Day. Combined with all the large scale monument destruction of famous white people from early in our history, and calls for the destruction of more, a cultural great replacement is in full swing.

How much time do we need to spend celebrating and promoting 13% of the population for their skin color? Half the year? I guarantee you that these holidays will be used as an excuse by race grifters to grab more power, much like Carlos Maza tried to use Pride Month last year to ban his critics from Youtube.

... Just say you hate black people already.
 

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... Just say you hate black people already.
Not at all. These black people are pretty cool, for instance.
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Not really as big a fan as you seem to be of this though.
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Meowthkip

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Not at all. These black people are pretty cool, for instance.
Not really as big a fan as you seem to be of this though.
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If not giving your braindead Facebook racism a proper response makes you think you come out the big winner and will win the hand of your fair groyper maiden and let you suckle her kosher milkies, then so be it.

But you are a retard.
 

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If not giving your braindead Facebook racism a proper response makes you think you come out the big winner and will win the hand of your fair groyper maiden and let you suckle her kosher milkies, then so be it.

But you are a retard.
Explain to me why we need Juneteenth.

Or were you just trying to get the last word in?
 

Meowthkip

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Explain to me why we need Juneteenth.

Or were you just trying to get the last word in?

I was never arguing that Juneteenth was "needed," rather that it's a holiday that is based on a piece of history that is interesting, but now I just want it to be a national holiday just to piss off you, specifically.
 

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I was never arguing that Juneteenth was "needed," rather that it's a holiday that is based on a piece of history that is interesting, but now I just want it to be a national holiday just to piss off you, specifically.
Cool bro. You seem a lot more pissed off than me by this discussion, and I assumed you cared a lot since you made a point of attacking everyone who doesn't want it, but hey, you do you.
 

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Cool bro. You seem a lot more pissed off than me by this discussion, and I assumed you cared a lot since you made a point of attacking everyone who doesn't want it, but hey, you do you.

"Everyone who doesn't want it."

But why would you even care if it's made a national holiday? It's just one more national holiday to add to the pile of dozens of national holidays. Please outline for me why you don't want it, because I can tell why Ashley doesn't want it; she just didn't say it directly because she's a fucking coward. But I think you might be willing to help her out there.
 

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"Everyone who doesn't want it."

But why would you even care if it's made a national holiday? It's just one more national holiday to add to the pile of dozens of national holidays. Please outline for me why you don't want it, because I can tell why Ashley doesn't want it; she just didn't say it directly because she's a fucking coward. But I think you might be willing to help her out there.
Why would you even care if it's just a statue? Funny how this logic never seems to apply that way.

TBH, I don't really care that much about Juneteenth in particular. I only care about it because it's part of a massive pattern of the elimination of European heritage from the country and exaltation of all things "POC." If it were just this one thing, I'd say fine. Have a new holiday. But as I said, we already have an entire month dedicated to the celebration of black people specifically for being black. We sure as hell don't have any holidays celebrating white people just for being white. That'd be racist. We also already have national holidays dedicated to specific black people and are eliminating holidays dedicated to specific white people (Columbus Day, Washington and Lincoln's birthdays being turned into President's Day, etc).

So let me ask you again, the same question I asked before, that you ignored and insulted me instead. How much is enough? At what point have we removed enough European heritage and exalted enough non-European, in particular black African, heritage in America? Because this is a process that's showing now signs of stopping. If anything, it's accelerating.

Also, rewarding riots (which is exactly what this will be seen as) will be used as justification for more riots in the future. "Stonewall was a riot" is already being used to justify the riots we just had. If riots are a tactic that works, rioting is something that we'll see a lot more of.

I have no idea if any of this is Goldenberg's reasoning for her position or not. I'm not a mind reader.
 

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So let me ask you again, the same question I asked before, that you ignored and insulted me instead. How much is enough? At what point have we removed enough European heritage and exalted enough non-European, in particular black African, heritage in America? Because this is a process that's showing now signs of stopping. If anything, it's accelerating.

I feel like you're projecting a lot of things onto me that aren't there, views I don't hold, assuming a lot of things that haven't been said because you've been told what people like me think. I honestly find it very strange that you think there's a finite amount of attention that can be paid over the contributions of members of one race over anothers. I never said anything regarding riots or tearing down statues. You said that; I merely mentioned the protests against police brutality. Juneteeth, a celebration of slavery being abolished in Texas, being recognized outside of Texas, is one of the most positive things that could come out of all this civil unrest. I expressed that I did not understand why anyone would be so opposed to it being a national holiday, and then you start spouting off racist talking points, and then come back around to me, labeling me as somebody who unquestioningly supports riots and destruction of property. So yeah, I guess I am pissed off... that you're putting words in my mouth and further derailing the thread with this nonsense.

Your question is loaded with assumptions on my part. I could say, rightfully, that I don't support rioting, even if I can understand the anger and frustration behind it, because it's an act of self-destruction. I could say that tearing down statues is short-sighted, and I think a lot of vandalism is opportunistic in nature and taking advantage of the desire people have to do something, anything, when they feel helpless against a police force in need of serious reforms; not just for the sake of black people, but for all civilians, and even for the sake of the cops. And all of these things would be accurate to my own beliefs.

However, I don't think that's what you want to hear from me (and I admit I have no idea what you want to hear from me), and I'm not particularly inclined to continue this discussion here, since as I said before, it's derailing the thread. This thread is supposed to be about Ashley. But as always with political cow threads, political discourse is inevitable, and it's always more insufferable in the conservative cow threads, because of people like yourself, who are under the assumption that we're in the middle of a race war.

Guess what, dipshit, it's class war, and the only color that matters is green, so shut your fuckin' mouth before I shut it for you.


 

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I feel like you're projecting a lot of things onto me that aren't there, views I don't hold, assuming a lot of things that haven't been said because you've been told what people like me think.
I find it absolutely fucking hilarious that someone who opened this conversation by accusing me of hating black people is now whining like a bitch about me assuming things about your beliefs. Look in a fucking mirror. Don't complain about other people assuming things about your beliefs when your knee jerk reaction to any number of racial issues is to assume.


I honestly find it very strange that you think there's a finite amount of attention that can be paid over the contributions of members of one race over anothers. I never said anything regarding riots or tearing down statues. You said that;
Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn what you said. That's what's happening. Do you understand that? It's not about a finite amount of attention. It's a deliberate process. European heritage is being erased, and non-European heritage is being institutionalized and enshrined. You're "I don't care" attitude about this while attacking anyone who does care is just a tacit way of supporting the status quo, whether you're too dumb to realize that or not.

I merely mentioned the protests against police brutality. Juneteeth, a celebration of slavery being abolished in Texas, being recognized outside of Texas, is one of the most positive things that could come out of all this civil unrest.
Why? Will it solve black unemployment, crime rate, and imprisonment rates?

I expressed that I did not understand why anyone would be so opposed to it being a national holiday, and then you start spouting off racist talking points, and then come back around to me, labeling me as somebody who unquestioningly supports riots and destruction of property. So yeah, I guess I am pissed off... that you're putting words in my mouth and further derailing the thread with this nonsense.
Again, you assumed my beliefs, I pointed out what you tacitly support, whether you realize it or not. And I explained why I'm opposed to it. I'm willing to compromise though. If the state and federal governments sign a protection order that they won't remove Mount Rushmore, the statue of Teddy Roosevelt, and other monuments to American heritage across the country, and that they'll send in the national guard against anyone who attempts to, for the next hundred years, under penalty of removal from their government office if they're in dereliction of duty, I'll support making Juneteenth a national holiday. Is that fair? I think that's more than fair. Fair would be also demanding that all the monuments that were torn down during this recent outbreak of protests and riots also be restored and given the same protections, but that will cost a lot of money. So I'm being more than fair.

Your question is loaded with assumptions on my part. I could say, rightfully, that I don't support rioting, even if I can understand the anger and frustration behind it, because it's an act of self-destruction. I could say that tearing down statues is short-sighted, and I think a lot of vandalism is opportunistic in nature and taking advantage of the desire people have to do something, anything, when they feel helpless against a police force in need of serious reforms; not just for the sake of black people, but for all civilians, and even for the sake of the cops. And all of these things would be accurate to my own beliefs.
I feel a desire to do something, anything, when I see my country and traditions being literally torn down and the authorities doing nothing or celebrating. When people are threatened in their homes by large and unruly mobs when other mobs around the country have been doing violence, and they tell them to take a hike, using their right to bear arms to do so but causing no actual harm, and the system brings charges against them, I feel like we're being stripped of our rights to defend ourselves against very justified threats. If I join with enough like minded people and we start doing something, anything to fight back, I wonder if you'll be so sympathetic and passive towards us as you are against the people currently lashing it in a massively destructive temper tantrum that's killed way more people than the police have in the same time.

However, I don't think that's what you want to hear from me (and I admit I have no idea what you want to hear from me), and I'm not particularly inclined to continue this discussion here, since as I said before, it's derailing the thread. This thread is supposed to be about Ashley. But as always with political cow threads, political discourse is inevitable, and it's always more insufferable in the conservative cow threads, because of people like yourself, who are under the assumption that we're in the middle of a race war.
I never once used the term "race war" which is mostly only a meme at this point, BTW. Three times you complain about me assuming your beliefs, and yet you repeatedly assume mine.
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Guess what, dipshit, it's class war, and the only color that matters is green, so shut your fuckin' mouth before I shut it for you.


In communist class wars, the middle class is always the first to go. In a way I agree with you. Race is being used as a cover to destroy the middle class and the white working class (because no other working class group will be able to accomplish shit without the white majority). The difference between you and me is that you're tacitly supporting this with your knee jerk defense of the mass media narrative and agenda.

If you want me to shut my fuckin' mouth, then stop arguing with me. I'm well aware we're derailing the thread, but you're the one who decided to white knight for Juneteenth, which you did not by actually defending it but by attacking me and making assumptions about my beliefs. You started this.
 
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Nah, I agree with her on this one. Black people already get a whole month, plus MLK's birthday.

The thing is Juneteenth has been a thing for decades, the proposal is making it a holiday all over the country. But really I guess having a day celebrating freeing darkies from subjugation is a big no no. Too many days those darkies have right?
 

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I find it absolutely fucking hilarious that someone who opened this conversation by accusing me of hating black people is now whining like a bitch about me assuming things about your beliefs. Look in a fucking mirror. Don't complain about other people assuming things about your beliefs when your knee jerk reaction to any number of racial issues is to assume.



Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn what you said. That's what's happening. Do you understand that? It's not about a finite amount of attention. It's a deliberate process. European heritage is being erased, and non-European heritage is being institutionalized and enshrined. You're "I don't care" attitude about this while attacking anyone who does care is just a tacit way of supporting the status quo, whether you're too dumb to realize that or not.


Why? Will it solve black unemployment, crime rate, and imprisonment rates?


Again, you assumed my beliefs, I pointed out what you tacitly support, whether you realize it or not. And I explained why I'm opposed to it. I'm willing to compromise though. If the state and federal governments sign a protection order that they won't remove Mount Rushmore, the statue of Teddy Roosevelt, and other monuments to American heritage across the country, and that they'll send in the national guard against anyone who attempts to, for the next hundred years, under penalty of removal from their government office if they're in dereliction of duty, I'll support making Juneteenth a national holiday. Is that fair? I think that's more than fair. Fair would be also demanding that all the monuments that were torn down during this recent outbreak of protests and riots also be restored and given the same protections, but that will cost a lot of money. So I'm being more than fair.


I feel a desire to do something, anything, when I see my country and traditions being literally torn down and the authorities doing nothing or celebrating. When people are threatened in their homes by large and unruly mobs when other mobs around the country have been doing violence, and they tell them to take a hike, using their right to bear arms to do so but causing no actual harm, and the system brings charges against them, I feel like we're being stripped of our rights to defend ourselves against very justified threats. If I join with enough like minded people and we start doing something, anything to fight back, I wonder if you'll be so sympathetic and passive towards us as you are against the people currently lashing it in a massively destructive temper tantrum that's killed way more people than the police have in the same time.


I never once used the term "race war" which is mostly only a meme at this point, BTW. Three times you complain about me assuming your beliefs, and yet you repeatedly assume mine.
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In communist class wars, the middle class is always the first to go. In a way I agree with you. Race is being used as a cover to destroy the middle class and the white working class (because no other working class group will be able to accomplish shit without the white majority). The difference between you and me is that you're tacitly supporting this with your knee jerk defense of the mass media narrative and agenda.

If you want me to shut my fuckin' mouth, then stop arguing with me. I'm well aware we're derailing the thread, but you're the one who decided to white knight for Juneteenth, which you did not by actually defending it but by attacking me and making assumptions about my beliefs. You started this.

... Dude, just say you hate black people already, goddamn you put a lot of fucking words to dance around the points that are only really brought up by people who hate them. Oh wait, you like the ones in another continent that talk shit about the ones you have to see when you go outside, so that makes you Not a Racist, right? Better throw in a Dave Chappelle gif too, that'll really prove you're not a racist.

I just don't like being lied to. At least the other racists on this forum won't try to pretend like they're not, FFS.

Also LOL at seeing me cap off with a bass-boosted Soviet anthem and thinking it's a genuine endorsement of communism, since as we all know, Communism... Kills.
 
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Combined with all the large scale monument destruction of famous white people from early in our history,

You mean the traitors who tried to divide this country and went to war with America?

I mean, shit, let's get a statue of Hirohito while we're at it. Sure, he didn't kill as many Americans as the Confederates, but he tried!
 

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