Concerning the Anglo system - Why are anglo nations shitholes and what makes America different?

[AnimeGirlConnoisseur]

If there is one thing that I know about Australia, Great Britian, New Zealand, and Canada it's that they were all made by Anglos, they were all once part of the Empire, and now they are shit. They are shit, because their people would rather trade freedom for an illusion of security. They are cesspools or Orwellian faggotry, this we can all agree on, but what I want to know is why did they all end up like this and why is America, another country that was founded by Anglos, not like this?

 

[garakfan69]

How is America any better with their huge intelligence apparatus that has barely any oversight and gets away with directly lying to congress?
The American people reelected the guy that signed off on the Patriot Act. They're not above choosing security over freedom.

 

[AnimeGirlConnoisseur]

How is America any better with their huge intelligence apparatus that has barely any oversight and gets away with directly lying to congress?
The American people reelected the guy that signed off on the Patriot Act. They're not above choosing security over freedom.

That is true to some extent, but America is still a much more free place than any Anglo country.

 

[Just Some Other Guy]

Seems like a pretty easy answer, we left that shit by force much earlier. Those other countries hung around too long and got used to being subjects.

 

[Billy "the Bot" Bobson]

America was the only successful Anglo Rebellion funded by piracy to reduce government intervention. So great was the shot heard round the world that it still faintly echoes to this day, but it's still fading.

 

[NOT Sword Fighter Super]

How is America any better with their huge intelligence apparatus that has barely any oversight and gets away with directly lying to congress?
The American people reelected the guy that signed off on the Patriot Act. They're not above choosing security over freedom.

I once got into an argument with a bunch of people who were defending the Patriot Act. It was like trying to argue against somebody with Stockholm syndrome.

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

I once got into an argument with a bunch of people who were defending the Patriot Act. It was like trying to argue against somebody with Stockholm syndrome.

I think the difference between the US and the rest of the Anglo countries is that the US was very, very lucky that it broke off back when British radical opinion was mostly right.

If you imagine what would happen for most of history if you let the most radical elements in society do a clean room redesign of a new country it would be disastrous.

There's clearly something very interesting about the period the American revolution happened because it coincided with Mozart, arguably one of the best classical composers. Then again it also coincided with the French revolution which was a disaster - I guess the French weren't as lucky in the radicals that came to power.

The US is also rather lucky in that the system chosen - separation of powers only really worked in the US. E.g.

https://correctphilippines.org/problems_of_presidentialism/

The American constitutional system based on the separation of powers was modeled on a transitional stage in the evolution of democracy as experienced in 18th century England. With Kings struggling to retain power against insurgent parliamentary forces, a precarious imbalance of power existed which the Founding Fathers copied in America, but sought to stabilize by an ingenious though precarious system of checks and balances. When other countries imitated this plan — as in virtually all of Latin America and some countries in Africa, Asia, and the post-Soviet arena — they typically experienced break-downs followed by despotism. By contrast, in the United States, despite severe crises such as a major Civil War and the Depression, the system has survived until today, a truly exceptional experience that calls for explanations, as proposed here.

Meanwhile, all the other industrial democracies, on the basis of 19th century developments in the UK, have adopted a significantly different constitutional design based on an the accountability of Cabinet Government to Parliamentary controls that evolved in England half a century after the American Revolution. Although no constitutional plan can guarantee success for any country, the likelihood that parliamentary regimes will survive is far greater than the prospects for those based on the separation-of-powers. Even the best recipe can be spoiled by a bad cook, but all cooks are more likely to succeed following better rather than worse recipes.

Of course, the current mood in the US bodes rather poorly for the survival of its unique system. Then again I wouldn't put money on the UK's unique system surviving much longer either. An eccentric monarch who intervenes in politics would probably bring it crashing down, and there's a fair chance of that happening.

The depressing thing about the West is that if the current liberal order comes to an end the government has the SIGINT technology to crush any movements aiming for democratic reform, and it's highly debatable if the people who call themselves liberals really are liberal in the 18th century meaning of the word anymore.

Another way to look at the US is that its system evolved from anarchy whereas the rest of the Anglosphere had a system that evolved from tyranny. So long as the majority of the Establishment back that, it's stable. If a majority or even a sizeable minority of the Establishment decide that is no longer in their interests a new form of tyranny will result. One far worse than that implemented by the absolute monarchs of the past due to all the SIGINT and manipulation of the mob to do the bidding of the elites.

 

[Bum Driller]

That is true to some extent, but America is still a much more free place than any Anglo country.

America has freedoms that no European country offers, mainly because it has never been a true monarchy or aristocracy. However, it could be said that it also has much steeper divide between the higher and lower classes than any western European country, in terms of general wellbeing, education and healthcare. Your underclasses are truly oppressed by draconian capitalism, while in western Europe it's a rare working-class person that has to work two 8-hour jobs simultaneously to just get by.

 

[heyilikeyourmom]

America is marginally better, but as far as I’m concerned it’s also failed and betrayed many of its own citizens, some of whom have accounts here.

 

[Lemmingwise]

They are better than most places, but they're kinda shit because of the jacobites. Ever since they discovered eternal life, they haven't let go of the shadow reigns of the anglo empire.

Here there's a a song about it:

Wuotan-Yuga Archive

Les Brigandes - In Hell (Live with English Subtitles)

www.bitchute.com

 

[Webby's Boyfriend]

Maybe because language is like an operation system for the mind, and English has a retarded grammar and morphology? But since the US was always an ethnic melting pot, this disadvantage didn't apply to her?

Also, my guess is that most people from all over the world who hate America do it because of her freedom and opportunities, out of pure jelousity, because they don't have all that.

America has freedoms that no European country offers, mainly because it has never been a true monarchy or aristocracy. However, it could be said that it also has much steeper divide between the higher and lower classes than any western European country, in terms of general wellbeing, education and healthcare. Your underclasses are truly oppressed by draconian capitalism, while in western Europe it's a rare working-class person that has to work two 8-hour jobs simultaneously to just get by.

Keep telling that yourself.

 

[Bum Driller]

Keep telling that yourself.

You can argue with the facts all you want, it's not my problem.

 

[Webby's Boyfriend]

You can argue with the facts all you want, it's not my problem.

Typical reaction of a brainwashed euroslave with cognitive dissonance and possible Stockholm syndrome.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

while in western Europe it's a rare working-class person that has to work two 8-hour jobs simultaneously to just get by.

Its also rare in the United states (Per the BLS)

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

America has freedoms that no European country offers, mainly because it has never been a true monarchy or aristocracy. However, it could be said that it also has much steeper divide between the higher and lower classes than any western European country, in terms of general wellbeing, education and healthcare. Your underclasses are truly oppressed by draconian capitalism, while in western Europe it's a rare working-class person that has to work two 8-hour jobs simultaneously to just get by.

Median income - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Eat dick, Eurotrash

 

[hauser]

united states is a banana republic.

proof: jeffrey epstein, jussie smollett.

 

[Clipper]

America's got the same problems as most Western countries when it comes to censorship, and infringement on freedom of speech. I'd even argue that a lot of the problems might have originated from there first before spreading to other places.