Concerning the Subject of Political and Social Oppression -

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Odnovo

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The current political and social climate in the Western world (or at least, America) is more fractured and strained than ever. While a civil war may not necessarily be inevitable, I still feel a tension in my town that probably will not dissipate for quite some time, if ever. However, I do not see as much persecution towards conservatives and Trump voters as I had originally expected, and I feel that there may be a fair amount of infighting that is currently going on among the "victors". Perhaps this is simply wishful thinking, but I feel that recent events have merely solidified the already existing social divide between the various groups, illuminating what had already formed since the 2016 election. Statements from trolls online claiming that Trump voters would have to accept the formation of a new social caste system and their lowly place in it seem to ring somewhat hollow in that I am not personally seeing any more oppression and selective negative treatment than I had in the past, although it still remains to be seen. It seems that it has so far, only illuminated the divide between the haves and the have-nots, with the only ones being genuinely clueless being those who voted for Biden for "social change" and other retarded woke crap, and yet did not consider the fact that the establishment only meant to enrich themselves, and themselves only.

Will I be discriminated against for my personal or political beliefs (or rather, my mere refusal to support the establishment)? Sure, but probably only in places where I already would have been since 2016. While I still keep in mind that it could get way worse than I think that it will, and I might be too hopeful about how the "victors" might bring about their own destruction due to in-fighting, I do not personally a nightmare coming to life right in front of my eyes. I might be wrong about that, but I've been seeing too many people getting fed up and are seeing through the media and the government's hypocrisy and lies. I've still been seeing people buy into the scam hook, line, and sinker, though, so who knows?
 

Sargon's wife's son

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The thing people first understand is the ruling Elite of the Western World desperately want to keep the post-world war narrative of the victory of liberal democracy alive even though the whole time it was a f****** lie because the second world war was started over a simple land dispute .
And after the Cold War ended they really had nothing else to scare the populace with.
So they've invented the Specter of racism and fascism coming back which funny enough groups like antifa and BLM but the most likely lead to the return of fascism or some other form of far-right politics
 

Techpriest

Praise the Machine Spirits
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The current political and social climate in the Western world (or at least, America) is more fractured and strained than ever. While a civil war may not necessarily be inevitable, I still feel a tension in my town that probably will not dissipate for quite some time, if ever. However, I do not see as much persecution towards conservatives and Trump voters as I had originally expected, and I feel that there may be a fair amount of infighting that is currently going on among the "victors". Perhaps this is simply wishful thinking, but I feel that recent events have merely solidified the already existing social divide between the various groups, illuminating what had already formed since the 2016 election. Statements from trolls online claiming that Trump voters would have to accept the formation of a new social caste system and their lowly place in it seem to ring somewhat hollow in that I am not personally seeing any more oppression and selective negative treatment than I had in the past, although it still remains to be seen. It seems that it has so far, only illuminated the divide between the haves and the have-nots, with the only ones being genuinely clueless being those who voted for Biden for "social change" and other retarded woke crap, and yet did not consider the fact that the establishment only meant to enrich themselves, and themselves only.

Will I be discriminated against for my personal or political beliefs (or rather, my mere refusal to support the establishment)? Sure, but probably only in places where I already would have been since 2016. While I still keep in mind that it could get way worse than I think that it will, and I might be too hopeful about how the "victors" might bring about their own destruction due to in-fighting, I do not personally a nightmare coming to life right in front of my eyes. I might be wrong about that, but I've been seeing too many people getting fed up and are seeing through the media and the government's hypocrisy and lies. I've still been seeing people buy into the scam hook, line, and sinker, though, so who knows?
Have you considered that you yourself are also being scammed into not supporting the establishment by people simply wishing to become the new establishment and then continuing not to care about you?
 

Horton Hears A Whoreson

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The number of people that either willingly turn a blind eye to acts of destruction by the left or purposefully memory hole the entire riot into a roses and shineshine street walk is alarming, all the while brooding a self-destructive thought process through societywide persecution of whites and white culture over non-whites, advocation of sterility by self genital mutilation, and vitiating future generations by sexual debasement. Someone doing a full on retaliatory glow will only reinvigorate the left and prolong their pervasive mindset. The elites, such as they are, are content to see this continue so long as the left are unconsciously docile enough to line their pockets and to further reinforce their ruling status.

We likely won't see a shift in political narration until millenials and zoomers start to die off and be replaced by generation alpha and beyond as they grow to prominence.
 

Odnovo

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Have you considered that you yourself are also being scammed into not supporting the establishment by people simply wishing to become the new establishment and then continuing not to care about you?
Yes.
The number of people that either willingly turn a blind eye to acts of destruction by the left or purposefully memory hole the entire riot into a roses and shineshine street walk is alarming, all the while brooding a self-destructive thought process through societywide persecution of whites and white culture over non-whites, advocation of sterility by self genital mutilation, and vitiating future generations by sexual debasement. Someone doing a full on retaliatory glow will only reinvigorate the left and prolong their pervasive mindset. The elites, such as they are, are content to see this continue so long as the left are unconsciously docile enough to line their pockets and to further reinforce their ruling status.

We likely won't see a shift in political narration until millenials and zoomers start to die off and be replaced by generation alpha and beyond as they grow to prominence.
I'm not sure how, or when, but it is inevitable that this current social/cultural zeitgeist will end. All of them do, although I feel that the internet has both acted as a catalyst and has prolonged its energy at dangerous levels; I can only see its destruction as being very explosive and detrimental. I'm still not sure how many people genuinely support what is being forced from the top-down by the elites; most of them seem like simple-minded folk whose attitude is "I don't know; it is just the way it is now" or otherwise very gullible and naive younger people who have been whipped up into a frenzy through either their own personal insecurities or blind trust in the media/authorities/social movements (all of which are compromised).

It must be said that most of the harm that comes to me personally is really just spending too much time thinking about how something absurd and destructive could happen for so long, as well as the fact that I am pretty much denied any place in my liberal town because I'm a white male who doesn't know the right people (if you don't know anyone and you want a job or a place in life, you will only be given a chance if you are a minority). I haven't been given a proper station in life and I'm alone and miserable, left to my own devices as I see everything fall apart. I have lost a "friend" over this bullshit in the past over something that was 100% non-problematic, and this "friend" did their best to have my life ruined. My life hasn't been ruined, but it was seriously hindered and it hasn't been the same since. I'm aware that this is power-leveling, but really, what do I do when I try my best to become something in this world, and contribute to society, when not only do they actively deny me any opportunity, they hand my place to someone who shouldn't even be here, simply for being an ape?
 

Taylor Swift's Ghostwrite

2016 Oppression Olympics Bronze Medalist
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There's a theory mentioned against Ward Churchill who took a position of that Native issues were the source of all villainy and oppression in the US. Basically, our "original sin" against the Natives taints all things in this country. The argument I usually saw poised in response to this was the first place I saw the term "oppression olympics" in which minority groups spend so much time fighting against themselves they fail to realize that the only way to overcome the situation they are in is to address the system that placed them all in it.

Whether you believe in minorities being oppressed or not, the concept of pitting the population against itself in order to prevent meaningful change is a valid one. The truth is that the current right vs left is a convenient situation for the powers that be because people are more interested in screaming at their neighbor for a Trump or Biden sign in their yard than contemplating why things have gotten to the place they are. The media feeds this on purpose, as do the politicians.

Furthermore, one of the biggest earmarks of a failing empire (think like Rome) is the widening gap between the rich and poor. I don't think anyone can really deny that the US is experiencing an increase there, and while I'm not massively into conspiracies its quite the coincidence that after the Occupy Wall Street movement identity politics got pushed to the forefront. This is historically a really good way to make sure people focus on fighting each other and keeping each other from noticing the actual problem.

So to answer your actual question: yes you are because thats is the narrative being pushed right now. The pendulum has swung left and right at different times during our political history, but this is honestly a bit more dire imo because of the context. There are things going on here that do really indicate a dying power and that is going to really turn the heat up on those in Washington who want to maintain the power they have. Covid has been horrible here - the deaths are bad of course but the economic impact is massive and people are continuing to call for more stimulus checks and what have you. Its a powder keg and I honestly think it will get set off.

EDIT: Fixed wording.
 

Odnovo

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There's a theory mentioned against Ward Churchill who took a position of that Native issues were the source of all villainy and oppression in the US. Basically, our "original sin" against the Natives taints all things in this country. The argument I usually saw poised in response to this was the first place I saw the term "oppression olympics" in which minority groups spend so much time fighting against themselves they fail to realize that the only way to overcome the situation they are in is to address the system that placed them all in it.

Whether you believe in minorities being oppressed or not, the concept of pitting the population against itself in order to prevent meaningful change is a valid one. The truth is that the current right vs left is a convenient situation for the powers that be because people are more interested in screaming at their neighbor for a Trump or Biden sign in their yard than contemplating why things have gotten to the place they are. The media feeds this on purpose, as do the politicians.

Furthermore, one of the biggest earmarks of a failing empire (think like Rome) is the widening gap between the rich and poor. I don't think anyone can really deny that the US is experiencing an increase there, and while I'm not massively into conspiracies its quite the coincidence that after the Occupy Wall Street movement identity politics got pushed to the forefront. This is historically a really good way to make sure people focus on fighting each other and keeping each other from noticing the actual problem.

So to answer your actual question: yes you are because thats is the narrative being pushed right now. The pendulum has swung left and right at different times during our political history, but this is honestly a bit more dire imo because of the context. There are things going on here that do really indicate a dying power and that is going to really turn the heat up on those in Washington who want to maintain the power they have. Covid has been horrible here - the deaths are bad of course but the economic impact is massive and people are continuing to call for more stimulus checks and what have you. Its a powder keg and I honestly think it will get set off.

EDIT: Fixed wording.
My brother lived with a Native American and a Somali under the same roof once, and while sitting at dinner the Somali bitch was telling the Native American how Black people are vastly more oppressed than Native Americans ever were, for several minutes IIRC. From what my brother told me, the Native American didn't say anything about it, and kept his cool. That really offended me; if I were that dude, I would have kicked that pinhead out to the street (he was the landlord).

As for the divide, I personally often do ponder about the state of our country, as well as how we got here, but I'm constantly distracted by all of the bullshit. I'm never looking for conflict, or causing it; it all seems to come from one side of the aisle. All of this prevents me from coming to any solid conclusions because I have to be hyper-vigilant about the potential danger that is literally around me. While I would be powerless to rectify the situation in any case concerning our country, I wonder if the other side ever bothers to stop to genuinely think, with a clear mind, how things became the way they are while trying to get the other side cancelled. It is possible, but I doubt it.
 

DeadFish

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My brother lived with a Native American and a Somali under the same roof once, and while sitting at dinner the Somali bitch was telling the Native American how Black people are vastly more oppressed than Native Americans ever were, for several minutes IIRC. From what my brother told me, the Native American didn't say anything about it, and kept his cool. That really offended me; if I were that dude, I would have kicked that pinhead out to the street (he was the landlord).

As for the divide, I personally often do ponder about the state of our country, as well as how we got here, but I'm constantly distracted by all of the bullshit. I'm never looking for conflict, or causing it; it all seems to come from one side of the aisle. All of this prevents me from coming to any solid conclusions because I have to be hyper-vigilant about the potential danger that is literally around me. While I would be powerless to rectify the situation in any case concerning our country, I wonder if the other side ever bothers to stop to genuinely think, with a clear mind, how things became the way they are while trying to get the other side cancelled. It is possible, but I doubt it.
My view?
Scientists found a stone age village. All them tied up, executed then tossed into a mass grave. The entire village. Of 200 people.

Come the holocaust and you get the same deal except the body count is in the millions.

What made the higher body count was technology.

The best thing you can aim for right now is try to make sure if things burn (they will) everyone starts from zero. None of this enclave from fallout bs. Alot of people who have power right now are evil and foolish and I don't think it's good they have that power
 

Taylor Swift's Ghostwrite

2016 Oppression Olympics Bronze Medalist
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The other side doesn't think about it at all, because they aren't supposed to. I want to be clear here that the government is mostly stupid and not some omnipresent entity, but we've all fucked up as a group. Our economy and government has always been interchangeable to a degree.

Think of like, Communism as we understand it. In theory, a communist nation has no reason it couldn't be democratic. But communism as we use it as a general term is less a form of economy and more a form totalitarianism that includes the economy. Socialism isn't the economic system, its how the government works as well. We never discuss however that capitalism ALSO implies a certain form of government and what that means. I'm not saying capitalism is bad, but we shouldn't turn a blind eye to what that means.

I think the issue at it's heart is that rich people really like being rich and powerful and they will take advantage of conflicts among the masses and push agendas to keep those going. In a free market, anything can be bought for the right price. Logically this would include policies in the government that keep the rich earning more money than they had to spend in order to pull that off. They see a conflict, they push policies to keep that conflict going so they can keep their money rolling in. Politicians are influenced more by this than their voters and we end up in the situation we see today.
 
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