Confederate Officially Axed: HBO Confirms Controversial Slavery Drama From Game of Thrones EPs Is Dead - D&D on suicide watch

[Ahriman]

Confederate Officially Axed: HBO Confirms Controversial Slavery Drama From Game of Thrones EPs Is Dead

With Game of Thrones EPs David Benioff and D.B. Weiss now tethered to Netflix via a mega-bucks overall deal, HBO president Casey Bloys officially confirms to TVLine that the pair’s long-gesta…

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With Game of Thrones EPs David Benioff and D.B. Weiss now tethered to Netflix via a mega-bucks overall deal, HBO president Casey Bloys officially confirms to TVLine that the pair’s long-gestating, controversial slavery drama Confederate will not be moving forward.

Confederate, an hour-long, sci-fi drama that envisions an alternate, post-Civil War world wherein “the southern states have successfully seceded from the Union, giving rise to a nation in which slavery remains legal and has evolved into a modern institution,” was dogged by controversy from the moment it was announced three years ago. Critics bristled at the idea of two white men — who have already come under fire for their portrayal of race (or lack thereof) on Game of Thrones — heading up a show about slavery.

Confederate has been on life support since February 2018 when news broke that Disney and Lucasfilm signed Benioff and Weiss to create a new Star Wars trilogy. Last fall, the duo walked away from the Star Wars project, citing the demands of their new deal with Netflix. “We love Star Wars,” they said. “When George Lucas built it, he built us too. Getting to talk about Star Wars with him and the current Star Wars team was the thrill of a lifetime, and we will always be indebted to the saga that changed everything.”

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Good. As much as the concept was interesting to explore, it might have gotten off the ground if it was handed over to someone much more talented, not the 2 hacks that made the last seasons of Game of Thrones completely unwatchable. The backlash has been so hard that I can see every major studio having second thoughts about them getting near any project.

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[Franjevina]

" if it was handed over to someone much more talented " .... it would still be canceled ... so moot point .

 

[Ahriman]

" if it was handed over to someone much more talented " .... it would still be canceled ... so moot point .

True that. But then there's "The Man in the High Castle".

 

[Chive Turkey]

>sci-fi future scenario
>people still practice chattel slavery on a grand scale
You'd have to make some pretty convoluted world building decisions for this to work

 

[not william stenchever]

Imagine if these hacks somehow made an interesting, nuanced, and compelling narrative about living in a victorious CSA. It's highly unlikely but now we'll never know. The Ouroboros action would be much more satisfying if this show had made it to air before getting dogpiled by the usual suspects.

 

[Bioniclelover]

Oh yeah I was wondering what those two dumbasses were going to work on next.

 

[Ahriman]

Oh yeah I was wondering what those two dumbasses were going to work on next.
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HBO are doing the right thing, they also cut off Lindelof.

I mean, look at those rookie numbers.

D&D are Netflix's problem now.

 

[Bioniclelover]

HBO are doing the right thing, they also cut off Lindelof.

Still, didn't they also order a bunch of woke Game of Thrones spinoffs? I am aware that they cancelled one but I also know about some other one about the Old Valyria that they advertised by saying how "diverse" and "inclusive" it was supposed to be.

 

[Gar For Archer]

>sci-fi future scenario
>people still practice chattel slavery on a grand scale
You'd have to make some pretty convoluted world building decisions for this to work

Eh, I could see it. Much of our modern comforts only exist due to a massive disparity in cost-of-living between America and the developing world, which allows American corporations to produce shit for dirt cheap. Those industries literally cannot exist in America, because nobody is willing or able to work a monotonous job for 10 hours a day at the same wage as some Mexican fruit-picker or some little Chinese kid putting together iPhones.

It wouldn’t be too much of a stretch to say that in a hypothetical CSA, modern America has a booming agriculture/textile/manufacturing industry backed entirely by slavery.

 

[Stab You in the Back]

Still, didn't they also order a bunch of woke Game of Thrones spinoffs? I am aware that they cancelled one but I also know about some other one about the Old Valyria that they advertised by saying how "diverse" and "inclusive" it was supposed to be.

WE WUZ STARKZ was cancelled after they produced a disastrous pilot. I think the only one moving forward (so far) is the prequel series about Aegon's conquest of Westeros.

 

[Bioniclelover]

WE WUZ STARKZ was cancelled after they produced a disastrous pilot. I think the only one moving forward (so far) is the prequel series about Aegon's conquest of Westeros.

I wonder how many niggers will be in the first episode. That other cancelled prequel about Dawn Age had entire race of children of the forest turned into human niggers(since they had no other idea how to add blacks to the show lol) who were "cursed" into those tree people we later saw in the show lmao.

 

[Water Underground]

Imagine if these hacks somehow made an interesting, nuanced, and compelling narrative about living in a victorious CSA. It's highly unlikely but now we'll never know. The Ouroboros action would be much more satisfying if this show had made it to air before getting dogpiled by the usual suspects.

They didn't even have to do that - Harry Turtledove already has a whole book series on the exact topic which turns into all sorts of wacky shit like a disgraced Lincoln becoming a socialist and Custer never fighting Little Bighorn and going on to lead prototype tanks across a Kentucky offensive in a WW1 analogue. Seeing as how GoT did best when the hacks were just transcribing George's books, it could have been interesting but it's for the best it's cancelled. Not only are D&D the exact wrong people to be doing this project, but the scope of speculative fiction is way beyond the current cultural maturity. It would just instantly devolve into a shitshow about "the mean white conservative bigots invented a power fantasy where they got to keep their slaves" and there'd be a huge push for no black actors to take part in it out of "solidarity".

 

[PS1gamenwatch]

There's these:

And also:

But from the first one, here's an interesting scenario, what if the South won, but the victory is short lived, when they try to go to war with Spain, it is Spain that wins, and they take the Confederacy, and somehow Spain is back, how would things turn out?

 

[Travoltron]

This stupid project was largely to blame for those last couple seasons of GOT. D&D mentally checked out and rushed to end the show so they could go work on it.

And there's no chance it would have been good. It's funny that SJW morons rushed to call this a white supremacist show. As if that would happen. It would have been a literally black and white "wy peepo bad, black peepo good" shitshow.

 

[Save the Loli]

This show sounds as morally black and white as you can get but apparently it's not woke enough lol

But from the first one, here's an interesting scenario, what if the South won, but the victory is short lived, when they try to go to war with Spain, it is Spain that wins, and they take the Confederacy, and somehow Spain is back, how would things turn out?

Chincha Islands War - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Not very well, it's two corrupt shitholes fighting each other, the only difference is one has self-styled nobility the other has actual nobility. And Southern "nobility" actually backed the government, the Spanish nobility were always trying to overthrow the government.

 

[Your Weird Fetish]

Eh, I could see it. Much of our modern comforts only exist due to a massive disparity in cost-of-living between America and the developing world, which allows American corporations to produce shit for dirt cheap. Those industries literally cannot exist in America, because nobody is willing or able to work a monotonous job for 10 hours a day at the same wage as some Mexican fruit-picker or some little Chinese kid putting together iPhones.

It wouldn’t be too much of a stretch to say that in a hypothetical CSA, modern America has a booming agriculture/textile/manufacturing industry backed entirely by slavery.

You kind of just demonstrated why it wouldn't work that way in this very post. Why have chattel slavery when you can just outsource?

 

[Cyril Sneer]

You kind of just demonstrated why it wouldn't work that way in this very post. Why have chattel slavery when you can just outsource?

Because then you need to fly overseas when you want to bask in the misery of your chattel.

 

[frozenrunner]

Eh, I could see it. Much of our modern comforts only exist due to a massive disparity in cost-of-living between America and the developing world, which allows American corporations to produce shit for dirt cheap. Those industries literally cannot exist in America, because nobody is willing or able to work a monotonous job for 10 hours a day at the same wage as some Mexican fruit-picker or some little Chinese kid putting together iPhones.

It wouldn’t be too much of a stretch to say that in a hypothetical CSA, modern America has a booming agriculture/textile/manufacturing industry backed entirely by slavery.

"Well, if you redefine 'slavery' to mean..."

lol no

It would just instantly devolve into a shitshow about "the mean white conservative bigots invented a power fantasy where they got to keep their slaves" and there'd be a huge push for no black actors to take part in it out of "solidarity".

You sure about that? Why then do they keep making oppression porn movies about the antebellum South?

 

[Bioniclelover]

This stupid project was a largely to blame for those last couple seasons of GOT. D&D mentally checked out and rushed to end the show so they could go work on it.

To be honest the show have been shit for long time, it's just that the later seasons were so bad that even casual viewers realized that.

 

[Trimmed Archer]

Knowing D&D, their script probably presented the agony of the slaves as torture porn that unintentionally degraded the blacks more-so than the confederates.