''Conservative youth'' are ridiculous -

L50LasPak

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Its honestly just a larp at best, none of these kids actually have a strong understanding of history because they won't trust official sources for being too woke, but also won't turn around and do their own research because they're both tech illiterate and functionally illiterate. I never in my life thought I would see the boomer "lol kids these days don't understand how a book works" thing come true but here we are.

Its pretty much all reactive, and it has no real common basis except in the backlash of how much modern culture sucks. Which yeah, I agree that it does suck the big one, but just repeating a bunch of stupid slogans and arguing with people on Reddit and Twitter doesn't make you a conservative. It just makes you a shill, which is the only thing anyone on the internet seems to be anymore.
 
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Kornula

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I have to chime in my thoughts that the OP can only see one side of the issue here. I have talked to plenty of conservatives, young and old...and they are holding onto their beliefs even stronger now that they are being demonized for no reason.
I'm in full support of many "liberal" issues: abortion, the environment (I like the EPA) and a few others. But I have talked to..and actively listened to my conservative friends on why they support their political issues... they gave me a lot to think about... something the left refuses to do .. the OP clearly shows they are myopic in their thinking/reacting.
 

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Teens and people in their very early 20's who haven't even entered the workforce as a full time worker are blindly supporting ultra conservative ideology in the last few years. I hear them using the ''Socialism is great, until you run out of peoples money'' quote constantly - I'd like to see them pay a fucking ''poll tax'' then. They are too young to understand that there are many types of conservative governments and not every type is economically beneficial to people, you could end up with authoritarian conservatism for example and end up paying half your paycheck to the government. These guys don't seem to care, they'll blindly support it regardless.

I see them supporting draconian laws on abortion as well when most of them are not even married. It's very rare actually to see married men (apart from the Muslim countries) supporting harsh abortion laws as that could carry over on their spouse if they need to terminate something like a ''downs pregnancy'' or some other disastrous medical anomaly. Married men can certainly be opposed to abortion but they're rarely advocating for bans and extreme penalties like these youths.

People have opinions that you disagree with?

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deangusmacteard

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you could end up with authoritarian conservatism for example and end up paying half your paycheck to the government
That's the opposite of what they're advocating, though. "Conservative" has had a million different definitions over the years, but "half your paycheck to the gubmint" is the opposite of everything in the current right-wing meta.
I see them supporting draconian laws on abortion as well when most of them are not even married
Fun fact: the anti-abortion movement is run almost exclusively by women. They're fanatical. Many were pressured into abortions by abusive boyfriends and husbands. One of my good friends from HS had a complete mental breakdown and basically spent 5 years chasing dragons until she left him, then got into NA. She's clean now and a lot happier.

Whether or not there are positive aspects to legalized abortion, it's a really fucked up thing that runs counter to all of our biological instincts. Late-term abortion is pretty much the most gruesome and inhuman activity that is legally allowed in the Western world.
advocating for bans and extreme penalties like these youths
Uhh... nobody's advocating penalties on mothers. They're advocating penalties on abortionists, if anything.

Fuck... there's a big battle right now to make sure that doctors don't get fired from their jobs and hospitals don't get shut down for refusing to perform abortions.

Most of America is down with the idea of "Yeah a panicked teenager who gets knocked up should be able to get a 1st-trimester abortion." But that's not the debate right now. The debate is whether you can force a God-fearing medical professional who swore the Hippocratic Oath to straight-up butcher a fully-deliverable human baby in utero days before the mother comes to term - or even after a healthy baby is delivered.
Who would have imagined that shoving degeneracy and trannies in the faces of young people would cause a backlash after a decade or two that might go too far the other direction? If only there were some kinds of historical examples or something...
+1

Gen Z is the first generation in America to LOSE support for gay rights, and it probably has something to do with the small fucked-up subset of the tranny community who wants to creep into girls locker rooms and tell you you're a bigot if you don't succ the benis.
Andy Ngo is based. I love how he ticks off Twitter and makes antifa attack random asian men.
YES EXACTLY THIS

I also love how the CHAZ/CHOP utopia was set up to protest police brutality, but their larping commie militia straight-up swiss-cheesed like three innocent unarmed black teens who they mistook for KKK.
Kids going political is silly in general.
SET YOUR HOUSE IN PERFECT ORDER BEFORE YOU CRITICIZE THE WORLD

CLEAN YOUR ROOM BUCKO

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Its honestly just a larp at best, none of these kids actually have a strong understanding of history because they won't trust official sources for being too woke, but also won't turn around and do their own research because they're both tech illiterate and functionally illiterate. I never in my life thought I would see the boomer "lol kids these days don't understand how a book works" thing come true but here we are.
Eh? This is just the same shit as existed with paultards a decade ago - except with Alex Jones and Ben Shapiro and Nick Fuentes instead of Rush Limbaugh and Ayn Rand and Murray Rothbard.

The kids are just getting the same semi-subversive and semi-edgy shit they got before, except it's reaching a wider audience through Youtube than it did through books.

It's the natural right-wing life cycle where teenage boys who want to ever get laid start out as pupal libertarians and edgelords who teenage girls might bone before blossoming into bog-standard traditional conservatives that grown-ass women will marry.
“Conservative youth” are not a thing because the term “conservative” means nothing in the world where people are changing the definition of words to suit their interest.
Politically conservative and liberal tendencies are actually scientifically measurable in terms of personality traits - even if they do not line up conveniently with current political issues in any given culture. Conservatives tend to favor promoting stability by preserving existing hierarchies, while liberals tend to favor promoting justice by subverting existing hierarchies.

Unsurprisingly, people who are successful in the existing societal metagame tend to be more conservative while those who are less successful tend to be more liberal. There are also, of course, opportunistic shills who game the system by cynically appealing to either side.

Depending on the prevailing social meta, either liberals or conservatives can be authoritarian or libertarian or materialist or spiritual or whatever. Right now, many Zoomers are reacting to rapid and radical changes in the way the meta handles things like race, sexuality and meritocratic incentives by trying to reestablish comfortable social norms - many of which were considered outdated before they were even born.

By the way, this leads to all sorts of interesting contradictions and counterintuitive outcomes. For instance, that's why - despite their reputation as prudes - America conservatives tend to be kinkier and have more active, satisfying sex lives.
 

Dang Dirty Troons

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A liberal millennial acting like conservative boomer and telling kids to sit down and grow up? What happened to your anti-ageism and "appeal to authority is not an argument"? What happened to youth empowerment?
Since liberals claim to be cool and hip with kids, you should know that kids are quite contrarian and rebellious - if you pester them with conservative propaganda (UwU socialism is bad and not cool, abortion is murder nyah~, being gay is lame UwU), they become more liberal just to spite you and if you blast liberal propaganda (UwU neoliberalism/social justice/socialism is the way out and if you disagree, you're literally Hitler, heterosexuality is reprehensible and kids are crotch goblins nyah~, abortion is a must, we should cull half of humanity because they mayo chuds UwU), kids turn into conservatives.
The rainbow haired trans-nonbinary-123 different genders is yet another pathology from the ''Gen Z'' generation.

Millennials who came of age or were teens in the 2000's never acted like this. The freakiest you got was ''bisexual''. This retardness is coming from Gen Z as with the other end of the spectrum of ''blindly conservative''.
I'm Millennial born. My generation was not into to this kind of stuff on a mainstream scale. I feel as a whole Millennial's were also much less race obsessed than Gen Z. We did not go around thinking every white person is a potential racist either.
Oh yes you were. You did every single thing you listed. Millennials started to come out en masse. Millennials would declare themselves true revolutionaries who would topple the system while looking fabulous. Millennials embraced SocJus ideology, became huge liberals, went around calling every white person a racist Nazi, every hetero a homophobic bigot, every conservative a reactionary and called for everyone to devout themselves to The Cause. Your libtardation is just slightly less annoying and smaller only when compared to Zoomer libtardation.
 

Sweetpeaa

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Simple as

Many Millennials supported the Iraq war.
A liberal millennial acting like conservative boomer and telling kids to sit down and grow up? What happened to your anti-ageism and "appeal to authority is not an argument"? What happened to youth empowerment?
Since liberals claim to be cool and hip with kids, you should know that kids are quite contrarian and rebellious - if you pester them with conservative propaganda (UwU socialism is bad and not cool, abortion is murder nyah~, being gay is lame UwU), they become more liberal just to spite you and if you blast liberal propaganda (UwU neoliberalism/social justice/socialism is the way out and if you disagree, you're literally Hitler, heterosexuality is reprehensible and kids are crotch goblins nyah~, abortion is a must, we should cull half of humanity because they mayo chuds UwU), kids turn into conservatives.


Oh yes you were. You did every single thing you listed. Millennials started to come out en masse. Millennials would declare themselves true revolutionaries who would topple the system while looking fabulous. Millennials embraced SocJus ideology, became huge liberals, went around calling every white person a racist Nazi, every hetero a homophobic bigot, every conservative a reactionary and called for everyone to devout themselves to The Cause. Your libtardation is just slightly less annoying and smaller only when compared to Zoomer libtardation.

Hmmn, I'm not from the U.S and have never self identified with the label ''liberal''. I can tell you this, most Millennials grew up with dial up internet and analogue/flip phones that had no internet access. There was very little interest in social justice, I don't remember a Myspace page with such content. Race baiting and calling everyone racist was not popular. Back then, a ''Racist'' was usually assumed to be a much older person with outdated views. I don't think any Millennial looked at their peer as a potential racist unlike today where seemingly every white person is assumed to possess racist tendencies - which again, is a belief amongst Gen Z. What generation shamed a girl for wearing a Chinese pattern dress again?
 

Home Again

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Hmmn, I'm not from the U.S and have never self identified with the label ''liberal''. I can tell you this, most Millennials grew up with dial up internet and analogue/flip phones that had no internet access. There was very little interest in social justice, I don't remember a Myspace page with such content. Race baiting and calling everyone racist was not popular. Back then, a ''Racist'' was usually assumed to be a much older person with outdated views. I don't think any Millennial looked at their peer as a potential racist unlike today where seemingly every white person is assumed to possess racist tendencies - which again, is a belief amongst Gen Z. What generation shamed a girl for wearing a Chinese pattern dress again?
Was your OP bait? How is gravitating to a conservative views ridiculous in this context? Imagine being a zoomer: Your life is restricted; you're alienated; your prospects suck (college debt or service industry); your middle class family is completely funded by crushing debt because wage growth has stagnated 30 years; people around you are filled with hate and screaming about injustices you've never seen; media is grooming you 100 different obvious and degenerate ways through every show you watch, song you listen to, or game you play. Yeah, why are idiot zoomers rejecting this version of progress?
 

deangusmacteard

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A liberal millennial acting like conservative boomer and telling kids to sit down and grow up? What happened to your anti-ageism and "appeal to authority is not an argument"? What happened to youth empowerment?
"The very spirit of rebellion is reprehensible... Youth must refrain from ungrateful questioning of governmental mandates... Instead, they must dedicate themselves to study, work and military service, should learn to think and act as a mass." - Che Guevara
Was your OP bait? How is gravitating to a conservative views ridiculous in this context? Imagine being a zoomer: Your life is restricted; you're alienated; your prospects suck (college debt or service industry); your middle class family is completely funded by crushing debt because wage growth has stagnated 30 years; people around you are filled with hate and screaming about injustices you've never seen; media is grooming you 100 different obvious and degenerate ways through every show you watch, song you listen to, or game you play. Yeah, why are idiot zoomers rejecting this version of progress?
THIS

What kid could possibly look at grown-ass adults fawning over a preteen drag queen shaking his prepubescent ass for tips on camera and suddenly feel the urge to post crusader memes + larp as trad + lose all faith in Western civilization?
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Meat Target

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Young people of all walks of life usually have shitty understanding of what they think their worldview is. They're still learning about how the world works.

I very frequently look back on things I did 5 or 10 years ago and cringe.
 

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Teens and people in their very early 20's who haven't even entered the workforce as a full time worker are blindly supporting ultra conservative ideology in the last few years. I hear them using the ''Socialism is great, until you run out of peoples money'' quote constantly - I'd like to see them pay a fucking ''poll tax'' then. They are too young to understand that there are many types of conservative governments and not every type is economically beneficial to people, you could end up with authoritarian conservatism for example and end up paying half your paycheck to the government. These guys don't seem to care, they'll blindly support it regardless.

I see them supporting draconian laws on abortion as well when most of them are not even married. It's very rare actually to see married men (apart from the Muslim countries) supporting harsh abortion laws as that could carry over on their spouse if they need to terminate something like a ''downs pregnancy'' or some other disastrous medical anomaly. Married men can certainly be opposed to abortion but they're rarely advocating for bans and extreme penalties like these youths.
You are aware that what people type on the internet regarding their political opinions might not actually be true, right?

@Terrorist except who cares, are you paying for those babies?
 

Dysnomia

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Have you seen how many ultra-liberal youths there are as well? People who unironically think communist death squads are good things? Please look at both sides of the coin.

Though tbf I hope young libertarians and conservatives go out and bust furry, commie and troon skulls, it brings tears of joy to my eyes

Do kids just go to extremes to be the opposite of their parents? I don't get into politics and never did. But it sounds like something a kid might do just to be contrary.
 

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Do kids just go to extremes to be the opposite of their parents? I don't get into politics and never did. But it sounds like something a kid might do just to be contrary.
I think the inherent flaw in that reasoning is assuming that someone between the ages of, say, 15-25, cannot reasonably be developed enough to have demonstrated political opinions--that they can't be educated enough to come to their own conclusions.

Do I think that there are some kids that are simply seeking to piss off their parents with contrarian opinions? Yes. Do I believe they all have those intentions? No. I certainly didn't when I seeing through the veil of socialist bullshit.
 

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Why care about any murder or abuse of children, then, since you’re not paying for the kid, or you’d rather not be because it’s some nigger on welfare who’d grow up to be a criminal?
But that's the point. It will likely grow up in a low income neighborhood, learn a street trade, and add to violence and crime. White or black, so let's be real what are we missing out on?

Honestly, why do you care? What does it matter to you if some woman has an abortion? I mean, you kill shit everyday without even knowing. What, it's a fellow primate so eww?
 

Demonslayer1776

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But that's the point. It will likely grow up in a low income neighborhood, learn a street trade, and add to violence and crime. White or black, so let's be real what are we missing out on?

Honestly, why do you care? What does it matter to you if some woman has an abortion? I mean, you kill shit everyday without even knowing. What, it's a fellow primate so eww?
Why should I care about him causing violence and crime? He's not doing it do me, he's doing it in his low income neighborhood
 
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