Continuance of the Entersphere Board -

[Vitriol]

I'm sure im not the only kiwi who stopped even reading the mr enter boards because of the honestly embarrassing behaviour of some of of its posters.

If put through tighter moderation to bring it inline with the rest of the site I think there is a good chance that there might be a little more integration. With a wider range of viewpoints the quality of discussion would likely increase.

Stricter moderation should then solve all three of the subs issues:
1. Its Isolation- older posters will come back
2. poor quality discussions- the wider forum has a far lower tolerance of reaction images, one liners etc.
3. inability to hear dissenting opinions.- good moderation should result in threadbans when people chimp out at each other.

I said early on in the sub that half of what makes mr enter a lolcow is how ridiculously immatuure and over the top not only he is but also his supporter and detractors. I feel this board really needs to make a conscious effort not to fall into that trap- like the second feminist thread needed to avoid becoming an mra circle jerk like the first.

I do want this sub to survive-i think there is both the content and the drive among its users unlike the old GK sub; but i think it does need to integrate better and as after a few months this has not happened organically i think its time to induce a change via strict moderation.

 

[Teddy]

As of late, I haven't been too interested with the entersphere, aside from the creep AJ and some other things. Mainly because of the obvious. I never saw anything fun about him. Just a nuisance that, like others had said, should be ignored.

The gifs really should be limited. Majority of them are pointless and unfunny.

 

[chimpburgers]

I felt that people were trying way too hard to be funny by flooding this place with pointless reaction gifs. Rarely any of those made me laugh at all, just annoyed me every time I saw one of those things in the middle of some discussion. You're not gonna become the next Louis C.K. posting shit like that.

 

[StateOfMind]

I very well be missing something, but where are all these reaction GIFs you guys are talking about? All I saw was Jenkins posting them.

 

[Jewelsmakerguy]

I very well be missing something, but where are all these reaction GIFs you guys are talking about? All I saw was Jenkins posting them.

No, there were others, can't remember who from top of my head. I think Stancakes posted a few when he was here, and even I did it a couple times.

 

[Twilight Sparkle]

I actually agree with you on this one. I enjoy debating NostalgiaJazzAdmirer and don't want him to be banned, and although I do kinda mess with this person it's in a lolcow sense, not a hate sense. And thanks for the tips.

I don't get why people are mad at him for disagreeing, but the reason I put him on ignore is because his arguments and logic are really bad and it wasn't worth it to argue.
Sometimes he would start an argument, but simply of his bad reasoning or something off-topic. Around the time he first joined, I remember him getting angry over down votes. (That was pretty hilarious tho) He's also a hypocrite, as he pretty much does the same butthurt things he says we do. (Dumb rating a post with a simple opinion, ect.)
But yeah, it wasn't very good on our part either. I did a lot of things wrong myself when first joining, but some people just made me embarrassed. Some went all A- log about Enter, like calling his existence is worthless or that he's worse than hitler or something. You become the lolcow if you get emotional over something like well, a lolcow. And I kinda agree, people should stop backseat modding in this sub. It makes no sense.

Tl;dr : Nja has bad reasoning and arguments, we did too.

although I do sometimes do that just to fuck with him and see his reaction (even though he is a troll I find him entertaining). I get that it is shitty to do and to encourage shitposting. so I will cut it out.
ignore NJA posts
don't reply to NJA posts
just don't buy the bait whether or not you want to
Edit: and it's kind of understandable why people hate the enter board and they have the right to call us out on it if they feel inclined to. Just some food for thought

 

[StateOfMind]

...Hey, I think the threads have just gotten better. Not even joking or sugar coating, they've actually improved.
[ I unignored NJA as well ]

 

[Marionette]

...Hey, I think the threads have just gotten better. Not even joking or sugar coating, they've actually improved.
[ I unignored NJA as well ]

As do I. Also I would just like to apologize for that one comment deleted for back seat modding. I meant it as a joke but I understand I was basically shitposting.

 

[Abethedemon]

NostalgiaJazzAdmirer isn't the shitposter we want, but he's the shitposter we deserve.
In all seriousness, I would like to see this sub forum continue, because there's a treasure trove of cringey awesome amongst Enter and his fandom. A tad more moderating would be good though.

 

[Blindrainbow]

I am sorry if this post is come off really asshole-ish or if I am just rambling but I got something I wanna say about this whole sub-forum.

I think at this point it just simply not worth the effort to get this sub-forum up to even a passable standard, there just too many issues that people just can't seem to work on.

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/so-a-fucktard-is-posting-on-the-enter-subforum-a-guide.9224/

This was made by a mod to be as clearly as he possibly can be on how to deal with offtopic post and how to avoid threads getting derailed but nearly every post after the OP proceed to completely ignore it and do everything the mod said not to do. The thread might as well be called "The Entersphere board in a nutshell" as this is one of the biggest problem on the board is the fact that people let threads turn into page long augments over someone saying ether a different opinion or just something dumb/offtopic leading the threads to become just a complete shit show. If Hellblazer was to go "Fuck all you" and just not bother with Entersphere board at all I would understand completely as there only so many times you can try to better something before just giving up entirely. No matter how many times the like of Hellblazer, Jumping Dwarf, Alan or even Null had go out their ways to explain in detail what people are doing wrong what they should do instead, only to have people posting that they will take this to heart, but then not two minutes later they get into a argument with an enter fanboy about some cartoon that nobody cares about is bad t that last for 10 pages until the thread gets locked by a mod.

Another problem is the fact that people here don't seem to really want to discuses Enter and fanboys, what it seem they actually want to do is talk about cartoons. So much of the posting here is sperging about cartoon under the thin guise of talking about enter

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/what-...le-if-enter-was-a-good-cartoon-reviewer.9135/

This thread is good example of what I mean

What animations that Enter has done and hasn't done are actually wroth an admirable?

I think Over the Garden Wall was a good choice for an admirable. I think Enter made a terrible decision to not review it because he thought it was overrated. If it was overrated, how come I never heard of it until he mentioned it also it isn't anywhere near the popularity as MLP which makes his decision to not review it even more bad. Other good choices would be dropped pilots that were deserving for a show like Korgoth of Barbaria. To be honest I don't think he would ever review it because it is too manly for him. He wouldn't be able to get past the whole thing. Another good choice would be Motorcity (if it is actually an underrated gem like its fanbase claims it to be. I've never actually saw it but 4chan and youtube think it is some underrated gem that deserves a cult following) How about some episodes of Looney Tunes? Too bad he would never cover it since he only reviews 90's stuff or things he is interested in.

You see that, that the OP and you know what I don't see? Nothing to do with the topic of subfourm at best there only passing mention of enter while 98% of the post is talking about how good these cartoons with only small bit about how he won't review them. Mind you that isn't just contain to one thread that in the whole forum, there just so many post going on about how good X show is then tack on is how "Enter should review it" or "Enter won't review it because of X reason"

Look personally I like cartoon but you know what this forum is not about cartoon it about making fun of weirdo on the internet, if you want to talk about such things maybe try the offtopic part of this forum or maybe any number of forum dedicated to discussing animations on the internet, or the various subreddits about cartoon or hell even tumbler is better place to rant about how Pixar's movies are overrated or how your favourite show about small horse have declined in quility in recent years, anywhere is a better place to discussed that stuff then a thread about making fun of some low-grade internet reviewer.

My final point is more subjective, Mrenter just isn't that interesting his content is pretty much all the same and what can be said about have been said in this forum many times now, the counterpoint is that Enter is the lowcow here but his fanbase is or the enterbots as people here call them; but most of them seem to be just kid/teenager being dumb which as I recall this forum rather not make fun of for a number of reason and even the adult enterfans are kind not that interesting or funny in fact a lot of them pretty much do the same thing with the odd exception here and there, also if it more about his fan being the lowcows how come they only make up around 10 percent of the post here while there so much more post about of analysing enter analysing a cartoon episode.

I really don't think this subforum should go on, at this point it dose not seem like it going to improve at all and really it bring down the quality of KiwiFarms as a whole at this point. In my opinion it better to do away with the enterboard and move on as the whole site will be better for it.

A member by the name of Segue really summed up my feeling of this subforum in another thread just now.

This subforum just kinda needs to die, honestly a single topic for this guy is enough. None of the other topics posed here are interesting, Enter doesn't produce enough content to justify seperate topics and like 90% Enterbots aren't interesting or funny at all. And the constant sperging, topic derailing and not listening to simple requests from mods is unbearable.

 

[Twilight Sparkle]

@NostalgiaJazzAdmirer Did nothing wrong

 

[Simplicity111]

I am sorry if this post is come off really asshole-ish or if I am just rambling but I got something I wanna say about this whole sub-forum.

I think at this point it just simply not worth the effort to get this sub-forum up to even a passable standard, there just too many issues that people just can't seem to work on.

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/so-a-fucktard-is-posting-on-the-enter-subforum-a-guide.9224/

This was made by a mod to be as clearly as he possibly can be on how to deal with offtopic post and how to avoid threads getting derailed but nearly every post after the OP proceed to completely ignore it and do everything the mod said not to do. The thread might as well be called "The Entersphere board in a nutshell" as this is one of the biggest problem on the board is the fact that people let threads turn into page long augments over someone saying ether a different opinion or just something dumb/offtopic leading the threads to become just a complete shit show. If Hellblazer was to go "Fuck all you" and just not bother with Entersphere board at all I would understand completely as there only so many times you can try to better something before just giving up entirely. No matter how many times the like of Hellblazer, Jumping Dwarf, Alan or even Null had go out their ways to explain in detail what people are doing wrong what they should do instead, only to have people posting that they will take this to heart, but then not two minutes later they get into a argument with an enter fanboy about some cartoon that nobody cares about is bad t that last for 10 pages until the thread gets locked by a mod.

Another problem is the fact that people here don't seem to really want to discuses Enter and fanboys, what it seem they actually want to do is talk about cartoons. So much of the posting here is sperging about cartoon under the thin guise of talking about enter

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/what-...le-if-enter-was-a-good-cartoon-reviewer.9135/

This thread is good example of what I mean



You see that, that the OP and you know what I don't see? Nothing to do with the topic of subfourm at best there only passing mention of enter while 98% of the post is talking about how good these cartoons with only small bit about how he won't review them. Mind you that isn't just contain to one thread that in the whole forum, there just so many post going on about how good X show is then tack on is how "Enter should review it" or "Enter won't review it because of X reason"

Look personally I like cartoon but you know what this forum is not about cartoon it about making fun of weirdo on the internet, if you want to talk about such things maybe try the offtopic part of this forum or maybe any number of forum dedicated to discussing animations on the internet, or the various subreddits about cartoon or hell even tumbler is better place to rant about how Pixar's movies are overrated or how your favourite show about small horse have declined in quility in recent years, anywhere is a better place to discussed that stuff then a thread about making fun of some low-grade internet reviewer.

My final point is more subjective, Mrenter just isn't that interesting his content is pretty much all the same and what can be said about have been said in this forum many times now, the counterpoint is that Enter is the lowcow here but his fanbase is or the enterbots as people here call them; but most of them seem to be just kid/teenager being dumb which as I recall this forum rather not make fun of for a number of reason and even the adult enterfans are kind not that interesting or funny in fact a lot of them pretty much do the same thing with the odd exception here and there, also if it more about his fan being the lowcows how come they only make up around 10 percent of the post here while there so much more post about of analysing enter analysing a cartoon episode.

I really don't think this subforum should go on, at this point it dose not seem like it going to improve at all and really it bring down the quality of KiwiFarms as a whole at this point. In my opinion it better to do away with the enterboard and move on as the whole site will be better for it.

A member by the name of Segue really summed up my feeling of this subforum in another thread just now.

I agree completely with all of this. Hell, one of Hellblazer's recent posts was that he said he was completely done paying attention to this subforum. He was the last actual mod that cared enough to actually pay attention to this subforum, and now he quit the damn subforum, and for good reason. Arguing with NJA on a thread telling you NOT to argue with him was the last straw. As a former regular poster of this subforum, it really isn't worth keeping alive honestly. Null has a good reason to keep it alive- discussion about him and his fanboys, but there have been so much issues popping up here that in my honest opinion, it isn't even worth keeping alive anymore.

Hell, some of these problems aren't even being caused by Nostalgia and have popped up long before. When you look at this subforum, it's just completely different from the rest of the forum, and unfortunately not in a good way. We had two full months to make this good, but it still isn't prospering. I agree with you on the cartoon sperging completely. Also, a majority of Enterbots are underaged, and depending on how much this rule is enforced (not that I would support it being hyperenforced but some people want it too) that basically means around 75% of the Enterbot threads wouldn't exist, which hinders most of the board.

Finally, people have been making separate threads for things such as MrEnter getting a new microphone, and GA scripts that are always the same and people keep talking the same thing about them, and they're pretty much useless or stupid too.

Overall, it's not my call, but in my opinion there should just be four lolcow threads about Enter- himself, Animatedjames, 03bgood, and the rest of the Entersphere. Of course there's probably a better solution but that would be mine.

 

[A Ghost]

@Blindrainbow by the by you dont sound dickish and at this point it may be better to cut our loses and run this subform has had enough chances to reform and yet it hasn't minus animatedjames the rest of the enterbots are boring or kids (most of that coming from what enter reviews) and there isnt enough content to keep this place running even if enter was relesing videos everyday and much like others have said growing around threads are pretty much the same
sorry if i sound like i am trying to backdoor mod but maybe we should put it up for a vote or something

 

[Piga Dgrifm]

Yeah, I haven't been posting here as much as I used to, I've only really been paying attention to Enter and James. They could both just have single threads to themselves at this point, and we know for sure that neither of them are underaged.

 

[Simplicity111]

Yeah, I haven't been posting here as much as I used to, I've only really been paying attention to Enter and James. They could both just have single threads to themselves at this point, and we know for sure that neither of them are underaged.

03bgood should still have a thread to himself too, as he seems like a lolcow on his own right. Although he hasn't been doing too much lately, so it's debatable.

 

[StateOfMind]

Maybe we should just keep the threads with the most activity.

 

[Teddy]

I really only care about AJ. Everything else, aside from like two Enter threads, can go. Doesn't affect me at all

 

[José Mourinho]

I'll be honest: I don't think this subforum can go on even if NJA is banned here due to what aforementioned posters have said time and time again: Constant derailing, taking baits and really low quality posts.

At this point I pretty much think Mr Enter is just more a typical lolcow who is pretty boring although he indeed had some spergy moments, which is why I preferred 03bgood to him, but he's releasing less content now.

I can't see any other reason why this subforum should continue, but perhaps splitting the subforum to threads in Lolcow would be a good idea.

 

[Simplicity111]

I'll be honest: I don't think this subforum can go on even if NJA is banned here due to what aforementioned posters have said time and time again: Constant derailing, taking baits and really low quality posts.

At this point I pretty much think Mr Enter is just more a typical lolcow who is pretty boring although he indeed had some spergy moments, which is why I preferred 03bgood to him, but he's pretty much releasing less content now.

This subforum would be screwed without NJA, so I agree that I wouldn't advise pointing fingers. People hated it before, and as much as I would have hated to admit it two months ago in my spergy days, it was justified.

 

[A Ghost]

yeah lets not point fingers here folk it takes more then one man to take down a board