I'd still put him higher than most is all. And I am not conflating intelligence with rationality but rather how effectively he can rationalize things. And like I said, I agree more with RM and Sargo.I would consider Contra to be vastly overrated on how "smart" she supposedly is. She has the type of social intelligence that it takes to play the game and to manipulate people, but is seriously lacking in rational thinking ability. My first exposure to her was her debate with Blaire White, and throughout it I had a hard time processing some of the idiotic things she said (ie. when she told Blaire that conceding the obvious reality that a surgical "vagina" doesn't function the same way as a real one was wrong, because when reality hurts a trans person's feelings it needs to be ignored). I would say that RM and Sargon both make better arguments for their positions, but to each his own I guess.