ContraPoints / William Nicholas Parrott / Natalie Wynn Parrott / Nykytyne2 - GamerGhazi Cannibalism Victim, Youtube "Intellectual"

Olly ended "her" coming out video with a Contra reference: "To paraphrase a great trans woman and dear old friend: I look inside myself and ask, do I feel like a man or a woman? And the answer is I feel happy."

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But Contra is very clearly creeped out by Olly's transition. They're no longer following each other on twitter. It's been 24 hours and while all of breadtube has offered congratulations, Contra is pointedly ignoring "Abby" and answering fan comments on the Rowling vid instead.

To my amusement, 4chan has noticed.

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illhavetwo

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Olly ended "her" coming out video with a Contra reference: "To paraphrase a great trans woman and dear old friend: I look inside myself and ask, do I feel like a man or a woman? And the answer is I feel happy."

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But Contra is very clearly creeped out by Olly's transition. They're no longer following each other on twitter. It's been 24 hours and while all of breadtube has offered congratulations, Contra is pointedly ignoring "Abby" and answering fan comments on the Rowling vid instead.

To my amusement, 4chan has noticed.

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Someone made this comment on the tranny sideshow thread and now I'm wondering if there's any truth to it: "Some people are speculating that philosophytube is the person who raped hontra, since they apparently were together at some point and hontra said that his rapist is too big on the leftist internet that he is unable to out him. I don't know about the timelines but some people say they match, big if true since now phallotube is untouchable. Hontra apparently talked about the rape in the recent harry potter video."

I don't actually know if Contra said any of these things, though.
 
Someone made this comment on the tranny sideshow thread and now I'm wondering if there's any truth to it: "Some people are speculating that philosophytube is the person who raped hontra, since they apparently were together at some point and hontra said that his rapist is too big on the leftist internet that he is unable to out him. I don't know about the timelines but some people say they match, big if true since now phallotube is untouchable. Hontra apparently talked about the rape in the recent harry potter video."

I don't actually know if Contra said any of these things, though.
It was in the Cancelation video, and it probably wasn't rape, just some type of sexual assault:

My experiences have made me so disillusioned with the idea that social media call-outs can lead to any kind of justice, that I've essentially sworn off participating in them.

There's a fairly prominent figure in leftist politics who I could absolutely #MeToo, but I'm never gonna do it because I have no faith left in the process of callout vigilante justice.

And I'm not saying I'm totally against MeToo-ing people, because I think, in some cases, it totally is the brave and admirable thing to do. But in my case, I feel like I just know too much about the dark side of social media shaming to ever want to participate in it again. I feel like the story would end up being taken out of my control, warped and twisted in all kinds of unpredictable ways. It would end up just haunting both me and the person I'd be accusing, which, in this case, honestly, neither of us deserves. So I'm just not willing to take that risk, except maybe in some very extreme situation which this just isn't. It’s not worth it.
Now, it's kind of unlikely that Contra's hanging out with actual political figures, so it's likely it was a Breadtuber. Olly fits the profile.
 

illhavetwo

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It was in the Cancelation video, and it probably wasn't rape, just some type of sexual assault:


Now, it's kind of unlikely that Contra's hanging out with actual political figures, so it's likely it was a Breadtuber. Olly fits the profile.
If it is Olly then either he is totally clueless about it or he's trying to make amends by sucking up to Contra.

An AGP trying to wear Contra's skin is ironically the closest Contra will ever get to being a woman.
 

LizCurly89

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But Contra is very clearly creeped out by Olly's transition. They're no longer following each other on twitter. It's been 24 hours and while all of breadtube has offered congratulations, Contra is pointedly ignoring "Abby" and answering fan comments on the Rowling vid instead.
I caught that refrence in PhilosophyTroon's video as well. I figured Contra would have been over the moon for their old friend's announcement, but I guess not? Maybe Contra's jealous? I don't think either "passes" but there's a natural femine softness in PT that Contra is seemingly always aspiring to achieve, in both look and affect.

Maybe PT hadn't told Contra yet, and they found out alongside the rest of the internet. Gotta say it looks pretty bad that the PT channel was still pumping out regular content each month despite the creator trooning out during a pandemic, while Contrapoints, who is fully transed could only churn out like 3.5 half assed videos despite being couped up at home all year.

PTroon's announcement also exposes an uncomfortable reality for many a transwoman like Contra and Fat Blaque; the fact that many of the "men" who pursue them are in fact closeted transwomen themselves, who are more so interested in becoming them instead of dating them. PT's public trooning offers confirmation that the GAMP to AGP pipeline is an observable phenomenon, and the fact that more than 70% of Breadtube males now identify as women or NonBinaries also indicates that ROGD can effect diverse demographics outside of teenage girls.

I also have a sneaking suspicion that Contra is annoyed because now their pristine transbian origin story has been shattered, as the "Chad" which once compelled them into a "compulsive heterosexual same-sex relationship " is now just as loony and troony as they are...
 

Mr Pancakes

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To my amusement, 4chan has noticed.

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Reading this just reminded me, I havent watched contra's video on cancel culture but i heard from the summary hes against it, but in his new video hes trying to cancel jk rowling (again thats the gist i got from summaries made by people kind enough to suffer from it so we dont have to) isnt that a huge hypocrisy? I know contra make the cancel culture vid because they got called out on doing something shitty, but are trying to do the same to others. Not sure if this was already said here if so my mistake. Also great 4chan cap there.
 

Nykysnottrans

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I have so many things to say about the Oliver/Abigail shitshow... I'll put it all behind a spoiler so as to not flood the thread. I am including a number of comments from the BreadTube thread in here as well, because I thought it was more relevant to respond to those comments here than there. A lot of the people in the BreadTube thread were apparently unaware of Nyk's and Oliver's semi-public romantic affair in 2018-2019, so I am eventually gonna do a timeline/overview post for them there.

Now, let's address all of this:


I've read coming-out statements from transpeople before and I have personally never seen such a coming out statement as the one Oliver posted. Coming out statements can be extremely emotional and overwhelming, but they are usually expressing positive emotions. In a coming-out statement, the trans person usually addresses their loved ones and their community, asking them for their support and assuring them that this radical change will not affect the familial love they feel towards the people closest to them in their lives. That this usually works otherwise IRL with them losing all their friends and their families falling apart is another matter, the point is that trannies make an effort to (appear to) embark on a transition with the best of intentions, and their coming-out statements reflect this optimism. This coming-out statement on the other hand is filled with political hyperboly and combative language. Most of the statement is not about Oliver himself or his transition but about the way he intends to instrumentalize his transition to make political demands, or the role he sees for himself in fighting the SJW TRA culture war against TERFlandia. It frankly reads like a political manifesto, or even a personal declaration of war. ("We have always been at war with TERFlandia")

I also get a tinge of "Jesus Complex" being at work here, like he only transitioned in order to make himself a famous martyr in the culture war. Take for example those tweets where Oliver claims to be the most famous trannie in the UK by virtue of coming out. I am pretty sure India from Big Brother is way more famous a British trannie amongst the general public than he is (or what about Youtuber Jimmy Dodger, a UK transman with hundreds of thousands of subscribers on Youtube), so I have to wonder about the delusions of grandeur motivating him to make such a shockingly unreflective statement about his alleged importance or brand-name recognition in his country. This definitely smacks of "Jesus Complex" way more than it does of "Gender Dysphoria". Remember that Oliver's parents are doctors so he probably already knows what it's like to live with people with mini-Jesus Complexes (perhaps not as severe as his) of their own.

Is there a word or phrase for autogynephilia but towards troons?
It's called GAMP, or gynandromorphophilia. GAMP is a term that we don't use much here on KF so let's break it down:

gyn = woman
andro = man
morpho = the form/shape/look of
philia = attraction/arousal

Gynandromorphophilia = the sexual attraction to or arousal at the feminine shape in a man (or the masculine shape in a woman). Trannies chasers are gynandromorphophiles. Trannie chasers who become AGPs to gain sexual access to trannies are still GAMPs.

A transbian couple is usually AGP4AGP. There are also HSTS4HSTS transbian couples but those are much more rare. "Transbians" are usually 2 AGPs LARPing at being lesbians because of their GAMP. There are many older non-passing AGPs who desperate want to have sex with younger passing HSTSs - aka trannie chasers who only became trans to gain sexual access to HSTSs - but since most HSTSs are only interested in cis straight men, the AGPs have make do with one another. The only IRL example that I know of an HSTS abandoning her cis guy to be with an AGP is Theryn abandoning Louis to be with Nyk. I think the average HSTS would rather do another gay man (especially if he's masc, which is what HSTSs are into) before they ever do a GAMP-turned-AGP.


These men discovered they are GAMPs or gynandromorphophilics (ie, having a sexual attraction to a man who looks like a woman but isn't, aka the attraction to the feminine form itself regardless of the "carrier" of those feminine characteristics.

I almost feel some sympathy for Contra here. But considering he does the same thing to women that Ollygail is now doing to him -nah.

I do have sympathy for Contra in a way because there's this small, small part of Contra that comes out that I can tell really wants to call out this shit.

I am still working on the timeline but here's what I have so far:

Oliver claims he started HRT "a year ago", so in late January/early February of 2020. I personally don't believe this, but if we go along with this claim, then Oliver must've informed Nyk of his intent to transition around that time.

Next relevant date: Nyk posted the "Shame" video - where he told the story of how he broke up with Theryn and Oliver at the same time, and where he came out as a transbian who prefers to have sex with other trannies - on the 16th of February of 2020. In other words, Nyk came out as a transbian around the same time that Oliver claims to have started HRT.

Shame | ContraPoints 1,711,981 views Feb 16, 2020​

Again, if we go along with Oliver's claim (which I don't) that he began transitioning in late January/early February of 2020, then Nyk was either working on the Shame video (about breaking up with Oliver & Theryn and being a transbian) while Oliver came out as trans... or perhaps Nyk made the Shame video in response to Oliver coming out as trans to Nyk in private, perhaps in a desperate attempt at rekindling their love affair. ("Hey Oliver, if you're a woman and I am woman too, let's get together again and be transbians!")

It's even possible that Nyk made the Shame video, not because he felt shame at being a transbian (pretty sure Nyk doesn't give a shit about being even more degenerate than everyone already perceives him to be) but because he honestly felt shame at possibly having provoked Oliver's transition.

/LGBT/ has a collage - apparently Nyk deletes every tweet PT ever replied to, and some tripfag called NatAnon who claims to be connected with Contra is saying PT did something bad to him. Which is definitely not out of character for mentally unstable gay men.
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I'm sure PT is a weirdo sex freak, there's a specific kind of predator that seems unique to anglos - a mixture of basic bitch male feminism and champagne socialism. Guys like this are commonplace in the university system here.
I am not surprised by this, I had noticed that Oliver had already deleted many of his 2018 tweets to Nyk, so I wouldn't be surprised if it was Oliver himself who had asked Nyk to memory-hole his side of conversations along with him so they could synchronize their deletion spree together. I mean, , the fact that Nyk posted his video about JK Rowling just days before Oliver posted this statement... bitches, they must've coordinated this shit together. Nyk and Oliver are probably in touch again and they planned for this to be a dual attack in the culture war. The only thing that seemingly pushed Nyk out of his depression and inactivity was the prospect of joining Oliver side-by-side in the culture war.

I'm waiting to hear more about this situation. ContraPoints has deleted every picture et al. from before they went fulltime tran, and they've deleted their entire Twitter besides, so I don't take that collage in and of itself as definitive proof of something amiss. Ostensibly, Contra's unfollowed PT though. Whatever the falling out is about, "Abby" shouting out Contra in the new video, the way they've totally copped Contra's style-- with the full context of the relationship, it all looks very weird. And the weirdness is mostly owned by PT.
Nyk has to know that Oliver's GD is nothing of the sort. Even the most true believer SJW TRA trannies know when someone's being a copy-cat, they just keep their mouths shut about it because it's verboten in the SJW cult to openly question someone's transition. Nyk was in touch with Oliver even after their break-up, and he must've seen the effects of the lockdown on Oliver.

I am sure Nyk will deny any of this up and down, and will particularly deny that what he's witnessing here with his ex-boyfriend is an ROGD cluster outbreak. Afterall, denying the occurence of ROGD cluster outbreaks is practically an article of belief in the SJW cult. However, even just for a moment, the thought must've crossed Nyk's mind that Nyk himself was the reason Oliver went trans.

But since Nyk and Oliver are both in the same SJW cult, neither of them can explore this thought or even articulate it. Nyk can't come out and express any lingering doubts he might have about Oliver's transition: "I think I made my ex-boyfriend go trans. I wonder why. Is it jealousy because I got more popular than him when I became trans? Is he copying me or is this his way of letting me know he misses me? Does he want us to hook up again as a transbian couple? Am I to blame for what is happening to him? Are the TERFs right? Is ROGD real? Oh no, I am having a wrongthink! Disavow, disavow... I love Big Brother! WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN AT WAR WITH TERFLANDIA!"


/lgbt/ is on a bout the rumour that Contra was assulted by Abigolly, has this been discussed here?
I don't think it's Oliver. Nyk said it was a "prominent activist on the left", and BreadTubers are not activists but armchair critics. If it was another content creator, I am pretty sure Nyk would've been more specific about it. He would have said it was a content creator instead of an activist. Activism makes me think it was someone involved IRL politics, not internet jerk circle shit. Possibly a TRA who campaigns IRL.
Talking about /lgbt/, lots of post are being deleted.
It seems like tranny jannies are really angry for some reason.
That's because Nyk's stans got themselves banned on 4chan for constantly spamming the image boards with Nyk's content. It has since been site-wide policy to delete ContraPoints spam, even if it appears to be sincere. They even suspected it was Nyk posting his videos there himself. Anyway, 4chan had enough of Nyk and/or his stans posting vanity threads, so they shut those threads down and began to troll him in this other thread, claiming that Nyk wass already post-op and that he supposedly had sex with his mancrush Oliver PhilosophyTube. (Nyk is still pre-op for anyone reading along.)
Someone made this comment on the tranny sideshow thread and now I'm wondering if there's any truth to it: "Some people are speculating that philosophytube is the person who raped hontra, since they apparently were together at some point and hontra said that his rapist is too big on the leftist internet that he is unable to out him. I don't know about the timelines but some people say they match, big if true since now phallotube is untouchable. Hontra apparently talked about the rape in the recent harry potter video."
See above, plus people post a lot of unfounded shit in that thread. Why do you think I stopped posting there? It's TERFs having a jerk-circle over troons, not a source of accurate drama info like other threads here.
Now, it's kind of unlikely that Contra's hanging out with actual political figures, so it's likely it was a Breadtuber. Olly fits the profile.
Ohai newbie, Nyk has done livestreams with IRL Democrats like Bradley Manning, Bryanna Gray (Bernie Sanders' campaign leader), was even going to do a Livestream with Bernie Sanders himself at one point during Bernie's presidential campaign in 2020. He's also been on Livestreams with AOC. Absolutely Nyk is hanging out with IRL Democrats who are in congress right now. Nyk was himself once a canvasser for Obama and that's how he met a lot of Democrats who later rose in the party. Youtube would not be sucking up to Nyk and treating him as preferentially as they do if Nyk didn't have IRL policial connections and Youtube and their Google overlords weren't already aware of that.
I mean if it's true then it's really shitty of him. I'm no fan of Nyk, but even this junkie troon should be physically safe. It's Nyk's human right to get killed by an opium overdose after all.
But to be honest, I don't buy it. Abighoul just doesn't seem the person to attack somebody physically, but rather a person that deals the blows with the keyboard. I think Nyk's problem with Olly is exactly his trooning out. We have to be honest: Nyk is more intelligent than 99% of BreadTube. He knows he's a grifter and that he says things in his videos that he doesn't believe himself (he doesn't think that non-binary people exist, no matter how much he tries to prove otherwise). So it's obvious that he's sickened that Olly tries the same grift now as well.
Same. Oliver literally made a video about how he couldn't even raise a hand against his cis woman girlfriend when she hit him during a drunken rage. If Oliver - who claims to be a judoka with military training in his actor's profile - couldn't even raise a hand against a drunken woman to defend himself, is he really the kind of man to wrestle with Nyk? Obviously not.
 

Bunchofcrazypeople

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I don't think it's Oliver. Nyk said it was a "prominent activist on the left", and BreadTubers are not activists but armchair critics. If it was another content creator, I am pretty sure Nyk would've been more specific about it. He would have said it was a content creator instead of an activist. Activism makes me think it was someone involved IRL politics, not internet jerk circle shit. Possibly a TRA who campaigns IRL.

I really don't follow this drama much, but it sounds like it could be Manning, whose assault on a female in the military resulted in his demotion. Really could be a lot of people, but that is the one that comes to mind first out of the people I know involved.
 

Nykysnottrans

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For those of you who are new to this thread and new to the fact that Nyk and Oliver used to be a couple, here's the breakdown of that semi-public affair of 2018-2019 with all the receipts.

The "Chad" nickname being used to refer to Oliver actually came from Nyk's Shame video. It was Nyk who was using "Chad" as a nickname for Oliver, because he wanted to talk about his break-up in public without mentioning Oliver explicitly - as if everyone hadn't already figured out that he was talking about Oliver. Nyk eventually got tired of his stans speculating about his affair with Oliver. To that I say: who the fuck encouraged this? Who the fuck was openly flirting with each other on Twitter all these years? You yourselves encouraged that with your TMI bullshit Twitter. Even as their collective fandoms were speculating their relationship, Oliver still wouldn't come out and say whether he's a @trannyfucker fucker of trannies. I don't know if this was due to British prudishness or whatever the fuck it is, but instead of being open and out, he and Nyk continue to feed into the online innuendo that they are a power couple. I am guessing because admitting to having a sexual conflict of interest is exactly the kind of mindfuck these SJW try to pull when they pretend to be objective disintrested "philosophical" allies, when in reality it's where they put their dick that's at stake. If Oliver really was such an out and proud bugger, why didn't he just say so? (Or alternately, deny the allegations?) Because he really was ashamed of himself? Or because he wanted to pretend to be sexually edgy and fuck trannies as long as there were no strings attached? Why pretend to be such a sexual poseur? It wasn't until after months of public speculation that Oliver posted the Queer video, and even there he wouldn't completely come clean about what he and Nyk had really been up to.

When Oliver refers to being a man being like trench war, I am sure most of his energy at "being a man" was unnecessarily spent trying to keep his semi-public affair with Nyk a secret - while continuing to play a silly cat-and-mouse game of titilation and innuendo with BreadTube cult members - more than anything else. I tend to thing that Oliver's combative and hyperbolical coming out as yet another trans-LARPer is a merely a continuation of that same silly cat-and-mouse game Oliver and Nyk started with themselves and their audiences back in 2017.
 
The /tttt/ investigation is in full swing. Whether or not you think this drama is worth getting excited about, 4chan sure is eating it up, and providing some rather interesting posts in the process.
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They're sort of schizo longshots, but you never know the murky inner workings of lefttube. It's fun to speculate at least.

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How is it even possible to grope Contra's excuses for hrt tats?

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A take I like on Contra's new videos. Nyk really has been slacking off since oppulence (though cringe had some more interesting aesthetics to it). Contrapoints used to use aesthetics to send more of a message (or manipulate the audience). Now it's just boring.

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General speculation that "Buffalo Bill" is PT, some other stuff about "Me-Mania" being @Nykysnottrans

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