ContraPoints / William Nicholas Parrott / Natalie Wynn Parrott / Nykytyne2 - GamerGhazi Cannibalism Victim, Youtube "Intellectual"

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Id say it is because libertarianism attracts a few types of personalities one of which is really elitist people who like the idea of removing anti-discrimination laws and the "get off my property mentality" who will move to the alt right but the movement also attracts other people with more apathetic or more autisticly "rational" personalities who are less likely to become alt right.

I think you're close. I personally think it's because libertarianism is an "extreme" (that is to say, very non-mainstream w/r/t US politics; I don't mean evil or creepy or whatever) ideology which attracts people with "extreme" personalities and once they develop a degree of tolerance to that degree of edginess, they tend to go further right. It's like an opioid addict starting to shoot up heroin after popping Vicodin doesn't quite do it for them anymore.

The left does this, too. Look at how many circa 2008 progressives became circa ~2016 democratic-socialists and are now full "Stalin did nothing wrong go2gulag" tankies. You just hear about libertarians more because it's less of a fringe movement and has more members, and thus a larger sample size. If you scaled up leftist politics to the size of the Libertarian party, I imagine the "demsoc to tankie" pipeline would be equally apparent.
 

Nykysnottrans

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UPDATE: Comrade Chelsea Manning is going to jail for contempt for refusing to snitch on Wikileaks.

I still wonder whether Nyk took down his Livestream interview with Chelsea because they got win of the grand jury indictment and decided to remove anything that was potentially incriminating. BTW, comrade Manning will be going to the men's prison because the Trump administration changed the rules so that trannies can no longer infiltrate womyn-born-women criminals' spaces.

Blaire explains why she's not getting the snip. I think I remember Blanchard saying that femme passing HSTSs often showed resistance to getting bottom surgeries (their gender specialists goaded them into doing it), it was the AGPs who wanted to get the snip ASAP to overcompensate for not looking feminine.


Blaire, however, is wrong: you are removing things during SRS. I have seen 3 videos of the procedure, including a video of the famed dr. Marcy Bowers carrying it out. Videos of the whole procedure are regularly posted to 4chan in threads about trannie e-celebs.

ISLAMIC CONTENT: You remove the balls and then you slice and dice the dick to remove the corpora cavernosa, which is the part in men and women that allows them to experience orgasms (it's the same part in men and women, in men it grew outwards into the penis and in women it grew inwards and became the clitoris, some medical literature even refers to the corpora cavernosa in men as "the male clitoris"). The reason why transwomen cannot experience orgasms is because they lack that part, it was removed completely during SRS. If they happen to have any bits and pieces of it left, they have to go back to get the leftovers removed, and this is just one of the many complications associated with SRS. After SRS, the only functioning part that transwomen have left for sexual pleasure is their prostate and even that might diminish eventually because it's atrophied by estrogen. Arielle has a video where she mentions this atrophy of the prostate in transwomen, but Nyk hates Arielle too much to actually go watch her videos and learn a thing or two.
 
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I have a lot of common ground with centrist libertarians but in the end I’m not much of a libertarian because I naturally have far too much interest in other people’s business. I probably wouldn’t even be here if I didn’t
lol that's so self aware and funny. I gotta rethink some shit about myself.
 

Nykysnottrans

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Prince of Queens has a new video up about Nyk's claim that Marxism and post-modernism are two very different things:


Other updates:

I went to do my blood test today and I literally fainted.
I'm a very delicate biological gentlewoman. Bring me my smelling salts.
This guy can't even handle having his blood taken without fainting but he wants to get SRS...

Other updates, Brittany has another video up referring to left Youtubers being a bunch of fakers, and also posted a couple of tweets about how she really has to bite her tongue about left Youtubers being a bunch of hypocrites who don't practice what they preach (so what's new?)


"I stopped watching all these fakeass leftist Youtubers whom I know, who, when held to the fire, don't practice what they preach.I stopped following all these people who, for all these years I've known them, are two-faced fucking liars. And for the future, every relationship you watch on Youtube and think, "Oh, these people have a great relationship.". Half those motherfuckers are cheating. Half those motherfuckers are going behind their partner's backs. And that's what's so sad about it. And I am sitting here wondering: "Y'all better be fucking grateful I never made those videos.". But it saddens me that that's the case. Because that wasn't what I thought that Youtube was going to be. I thought Youtube was going to be a place where people were going to be themselves. But it becomes more and more apparent that that isn't true. And that bums me out."

I still wonder whether she's referring to Nyk. Besides this video she posted these tweets:

Am I so fucking stupid for keeping all the secrets of those on the left who preach but dont practice? I'm waiting to see if you grow

Or am I complicit in this as well? Allowing these leftists grow in power who I have known personally only to find out they treat their own

Just as cruely as those they preach against?
What is my job here? To out you here and now? Or offer this as a warning, do better, it matters

Stop fucking around with your egos.
And stop pretending like you haven't been cruel. I'm still waiting to see what you do
Wishing you well

Everytime I read these tweets from Brittany I wonder whether she's referring to Nyk. I know she has met all of BreadTube at VidCon (she was in those pictures of The Brunch that have been shared here), but she has been on Youtube longer than most of them and at one point even hung out with Nyk's ex Ashley, so Brittany knows Nyk longer than any of these BreadTube e-celebs who only became his friends when they noticed him as an up and coming leftwing SJW Youtuber. I remember Brittany saying in a video that she was going to do a make-up collab with Nyk while he was at VidCon 2018, but then something happened and the make-up collab video never materialized. She barely spoke about or tweeted any pictures from VidCon 2018. If Brittany ends up reading this, fuck these BreadTube people, fuck their clique, go your own way and be an individual. Everyone who's been watching Nyk since Youtube Atheism days knows it's a LARP. Nuclear Night/Terri Strange was around back then and she knows it's a LARP, so does Diana Boston/Mancheeze. Diana Boston did a Livestream with the other Youtube TERFs (on her deleted channel, otherwise I would have linked to it) where she was specifically asked about Nyk coming out as trans and she literally burst out laughing at that question. Said she though it was a joke, because she used to follow Nyk (and Inmenham and the old Atheist Youtubers) back in the day and considered Nyk too smart for the SJW trans cult.
 

AirdropShitposts

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That’s the entirety of leftube, over and over and over again. “Critique thing that sounds rational to criticize while my political movement and I exclusively do only that thing.” People like Contra are attempting (often successfully) to covert people through the claim that they’re normal.
That's pretty much how the wave of Skpetics post-AA were at the start iirc. Give it maybe two years max and most if not all of leftube will have Sargon-tier controversies under their belt. They already have the personality for it, and while they might be able to ride a wave on Trump's re-election, I'm absolutely sure there will be exposure for profiteering or faking viewpoints after some kind of drama and falling out.
 

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The thing that I don't get about Contrapoints is that her behavior is largely to the detriment of her supposed objective of converting people. She's commented before that she intentionally avoids saying things like "everyone who likes this person is transphobic and sexist" when talking about Ben Shapiro or Jordan Peterson, but her videos are still filled with passive aggressive jabs. All that really means is that people will watch it for a bit longer before turning it off in frustration, probably disliking her more than they would have otherwise because there was an initial investment. Her ideological chameleon strategy also only works when you don't regularly admit that you lie about your real beliefs depending on what will be more effective in convincing people.
 

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One of the first things I ever posted in this thread was the livestream that Nyk did with Milo Stewart where Nyk admitted that he was never officially diagnosed with gender dysphoria, that he ordered HRT from the darknet, self-medicated with the internet HRT for about two months, then went to an informed consent clinic and threatened to self-harm with the internet HRT if they didn't put him on medical grade HRT. (Jamie Shupe, the NB detransitioner, recently did a Livestream interview where he revealed that he originally got on HRT the same way as Nyk: he went to an informed consent clinich and threatened to self-harm with internet HRT in order to be put on medical grade HRT under their harm minimization protocol. Apparently this is commonly exploited loophole that transtrenders abuse to get on HRT without an official gender dysphoria diagnosis.)
That's a laugh about threatening self harm to get hrt under informed consent...

Informed Consent is how I started HRT, I legit spent an hour talking to a doctor about why I wanted hrt, basic questions about my life, going through side-effects of hrt and signing paperwork, I didn't even have blood work done as they said the blood work that had been done at my physical was good enough. I walked out of the clinic with my perscriptions. I was expecting to go in, talk to a doctor getting a referral to a psychologist as a first step as informed consent was an absolute foreign concept for me.

I would seriously question anyone who came asking for HRT after a) self medicating and b) threatening self harm(even with "dark web" hrt) in order to obtain it. Should it be denied, absolutely not but only granted after a mental evaluation, and maybe some antidepressants. The rub with informed consent is that as an adult you are mature enough to handle making the decision to start cross-gender hormones and threatening self harm tells me you aren't in the right state of mind/not mature enough to handle that type of decision making.
 

Nykysnottrans

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Nyk is requesting to interview ex-TERFs for his upcoming video, but almost no TERFs reply.
Instead of replies from actual ex-GC, he gets replies from casual transphobes who became trans allies:

Did you use to be a TERF or "gender critical" feminist? I'd like to hear from you! Let me know: what experiences/thoughts/feelings led you to sympathize with the "gender critical" point of view? What made you question that point of view or helped you change your mind?

Send me an email at contrapoints1@gmail.com, subject line "Gender Critical." I may quote text from your message in a video (strict anonymity assumed unless you specify otherwise).
https://twitter.com/ContraPoints/status/1105219198509293568


A sockpuppet with only 6 followers writes:

Yes, I was. I was tooling around with some right wing idealology then, and back in the 90's and early 2000's it was a bit unheard of. So whenever I saw a trans person, it invoked a fear response in me, and it instantly made me view them as less than human. This hurts to type out.

Nyk responds with:

no that's good, that's the real t, that's the darkness, that's the pain, that's what I want, that's what I thrive on, slide into my DMs!

This person isn't even a former feminist, just regular right winger, but Nyk is pretending that interviewing right wingers about why they became trans allies is going to give him some insight into former radical feminists becoming trans allies. Two very different groups with very different ideas about men and women than Nyk lumps together for the sake of his confirmation bias that the right is supposedly brainwashing feminists into becoming anti-trans.

I went through the first 100 replies he got (mostly from women, which is interesting, so much for all the leftybros who follow Nyk being male feminists) most answers are along the lines of:

  • I met a transperson IRL/AFK and realized they weren't so bad in person as TERFs made them out to be (the "personal friend" argument)
  • Watching BreadTube convinced me that trans is a thing (ie, the backhanded compliment/"You are my personal saviour/Jesus")
  • I am from a religious family where I was taught to be fearful of and distrust everything "different" (which is not the same thing as becoming anti-trans from a feminist perspective, but Nyk doesn't care about the difference and just lumps them all together for the sake of his confirmation bias)
  • I trusted my psychology books when I shouldn't (I don't know what this means, I guess they must've read that gender dysphoria is a mental illness - which is still the case though it gets you labelled truscum nowadays to point it out - and somehow realized it wasn't a mental illness. Doesn't explain HOW they reached that conclusion.)
  • I learned about the science behind transitioning and realized that gender/sex isn't binary (ie, did not learn shit about transitioning at all, didn't understand the science behind it either, conflates sex and gender)
  • I hung out in TERF circles but realized how petty and hateful radfems are (still, TERFs being assholes is not a reason to join their opponents who are just as if not even more rancid)
  • I was a lesbian but I came out as a transman (which is a non-sequitur/does-not-follow but someone actually tweeted this like it makes sense. I guess this only makes sense if you encountered those hardcore "gender dysphoria does not exist" TERF extremists who think that all mental illness is caused by the patriarchy and therefore all mental illness diagnoses are a social construct to let men off the hook for what they do to women - because women obviously never drive other women crazy, of course. When someone tells you that cancer doesn't exist but you end up with cancer, they're obviously full of shit in your eyes. However, what about those other people who say that cancer is more often caused by environmental pollution rather than personal behaviour? Are they wrong? That's another way to look at gender critical people, people who insist that gender dysphoria is social/environmental rather than personal.)

I bet if I asked TERFs who used to be trans allies why they become TERFs they would give me the same sort of reasons for peaktransing:

  • I met a trans person who creeped me out
  • Some Youtube TERF convinced me
  • I trusted my psychology books (that trannies are mentally ill)
  • I believed you could change sex/didn't know what transition really consisted of/I learned about DNA/XX chromosomes/dimorphism
  • I was trans and realized I wasn't/detransitioner
  • I hung out in LGBT circles and realized how petty and hateful SJW trans activists are
  • I came from a progressive family where I was told to be tolerant of everyone and to not ask hard questions about all the weird wacky shit other people do
All in all, the method of information gathering (anonymous interview over e-mail) is riddled with confirmation bias. Nyk will be contacted by SJW trans activists from behind sockpuppet accounts telling him what he wants to hear: that TERFs are Nazis in feminist clothing, that the right is recruiting TERFs, that every TERF you see in the mainstream media is really a right wing operative paid by the the right, the Koch brothers run every TERF site, "I personally witnessed TERFs in white hoods on horses planting a burning XX double cross outside a trans woman's house", etc.
 
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He should review the very uplifting book the Holy Quran next just to make his followers happy ;)
Did you use to be a TERF or "gender critical" feminist? I'd like to hear from you! Let me know: what experiences/thoughts/feelings led you to sympathize with the "gender critical" point of view? What made you question that point of view or helped you change your mind?
Or maybe Nyk could try asking actual "TERFs" what lead them to peak trans... but I guess we can't have that in the current year!

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>When you think TERFs are one of the worst types of people on the planet but you're friends with June "The world treats women like exceptional children/Pedophilia is a side kink" LaPorta
 

Nykysnottrans

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He should review the very uplifting book the Holy Quran next just to make his followers happy ;)
What a fitting book to read just before your sex change surgery... he should just make an old school clickbait video titled "I Read The Transsexual Empire So You Don't Have To". Why is he even reading this 1979 book? None of the ex-TERFs on Twitter who responded to him said they read it or that it made them peaktrans. TERFs nowadays don't need to read a book from 1979 to learn what trans people are really like, all they have to do is go on Twitter and Youtube and see with their own eyes what trans people are like, what image they choose to put out there of themselves. This book really isn't "the TERF maker" that Nyk thinks it is. The social media and Youtube are the contemporary TERF makers because they give direct and unfiltered access to trans people. That's all a TERF needs to see to peaktrans.
 

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There is a... "fetish" among a certain set of "intellectuals" who desire to find everything leading back to some older book that's THE BIBLE FOR [X]. There was a small kerfuffle when that nutty Russian writers one book from the 1990s was discovered by Western media who claimed it was the guidebook to the secret Russian plot to rule the world even though the guy is super obscure even among nutty Russians. Every so often somebody like The New Yorker will run a piece finding some "ideological foundational work" for whatever right-wing trend they're most on about currently. Like there was supposedly some book CENTRAL to the TEA PARTY'S EXTREMISM that got peddled around, when you could just look at Tea Party rallies, or later the Trump rallies or QAnon crap and see pretty clearly that none of them are reading some stupid failed tome from two decades ago, let alone worshiping it. You have the same kind of thing sometimes like with that Thomas Piketty book nobody really read (and was a failure in France) but the Democratic Party/Obama was supposedly following the text.

It's probably some kind of comforting mechanism to say nobody truly believes in this, it's all because of some book that's hoodwinked them and if we can just debunk that book The People will see the light. Atheist circles and religious circles both often fall into this trap probably most obviously.

It's also a way to avoid arguing with actual people and their arguments, instead Contra can argue with this book from 1979. All while implying it has some kind of sinister motive behind existing that's deluding well meaning people into TERF evil. It wouldn't be surprising if the entire point was to argue with this book using an argument long ago constructed, and the request for people to write in is simply to add color around the fact that he's arguing with this book.
 

Nykysnottrans

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It's also a way to avoid arguing with actual people and their arguments, instead Contra can argue with this book from 1979. All while implying it has some kind of sinister motive behind existing that's deluding well meaning people into TERF evil. It wouldn't be surprising if the entire point was to argue with this book using an argument long ago constructed, and the request for people to write in is simply to add color around the fact that he's arguing with this book.
Here are some facts about the historical context of The Transsexual Empire, none of which Nyk will bother to point out or go into when he misrepresents a book from 1979 to his audience:

  • The terms transgender and non-binary were not in use back then. Transitioning was still subject to gatekeeping.
  • It was written before the civilian internet, when the only way to meet transsexuals was to talk to them personally, which the author of the book managed to do: she interviewed 13 transwomen and 2 transmen for this book. At a time when transsexuals were not encouraged to be public.
  • It came out at a time when it was still illegal to be a practicing homosexual in many states.
  • It came out at a time when conversion therapy for homosexuals was still considered normal and acceptable. There were lesbians in the 1970s who had been subjected to psychiatric treatment in their youth for being gay or gender non-conforming. It was perfectly normal for these lesbians to have suspicions about transitioning and to look at it as just another gay conversion therapy.
  • It came out at a time when there was a lot of paranoia in leftists circles about COINTELPRO infiltration of activist groups. A lot of this was due to the radical left's persecution complex but understandable given the time. The more alarmist/intemperate parts of the book - that trans people always object to and use as proof of bigotry - were reflective of an atmosphere of paranoia and persecution amongst progressive communities and especially the gay community who were actually engaged in illegal acts by just being gay.
  • The idea of a man stealthing as a woman, infiltrating the lesbian community, seducing lesbians and then getting them all busted for illegal homosexuality was not just a mere hypothetical, it was an existential threat that lesbians had to take into consideration.
  • VCRs were a still a new technology and so was video porn. Video porn made lesbianism readily available to curious men for the first time in human history. Before video, any man who wanted to see women engaged in lesbian acts (illegal and a social taboo) had to visit a sex club or engage the services of prostitutes. Now for the first time ever a man who was curious about the most taboo/illegal sex acts did not have to go out to find them but could view lesbian sex in the privacy of his own home. This new availability of lesbianism through the medium of video - while homosexuality was still illegal in many places - no doubt made lesbians feel exposed and vulnerable, feeding into their feelings that they were being targeted by lecherous men with a new found lesbo fetish.
  • It was not written for a mainstream audience but for a separatist lesbian feminist audience specifically. It was eventually picked up by the mainstream because there weren't that many accessible books at the time about transsexuals. If you went looking for books about transsexuals that were written for a lay audience (instead of an expert/medical/academic audience), there were only autobiographies, dr. Harry Benjamin's book (which might still be too dense for a lay audience) and, well, this book. Transsexuals were like a rare unicorn rarely seen in the wild, who were encouraged to stealth by their psychiatrists. There was a lot of curiousity and a need-to-know amongst lesbians and feminists which this book set out to address.

None of these historical considerations are mentioned when SJW trans activists blast the book. It is very much a product of its time, which is reflected in the analytical framework used. Its' criticism of transsexualism comes down to combination of (anti-)Freudianism, New Age woowoo and Human Potential rhetoric about the "integrated" self (or the "self-actualized" individual, another popular term at the time) channeled through a radical feminist prism. No one would write such a book about transsexuals in this day and age. Yet transsexuals read the book like it was written yesterday, which is very stupid of them. I doubt most of the TERFs on the internet have ever read it. TERFs on 2019 get their information about trans people directly "from the horse's mouth" through the social media, not from a 40 year old book. It's true that many TERF arguments can be traced back to this book, but virtually anyone familiar with feminism could have come up with the same arguments just on their own. You really don't need to read this book to reach the conclusion that transwomen tend to "embody stereotypical femininity". Just go through any famous transwoman's Instagram selfies or Youtube videos and trust your own eyes.
 

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VCRs were a still a new technology and so was video porn. Video porn made lesbianism readily available to curious men for the first time in human history. Before video, any man who wanted to see women engaged in lesbian acts (illegal and a social taboo) had to visit a sex club or engage the services of prostitutes. Now for the first time ever a man who was curious about the most taboo/illegal sex acts did not have to go out to find them but could view lesbian sex in the privacy of his own home. This new availability of lesbianism through the medium of video - while homosexuality was still illegal in many places - no doubt made lesbians feel exposed and vulnerable, feeding into their feelings that they were being targeted by lecherous men with a new found lesbo fetish.
This one is so fucked up and yet the sheer lack of empathy from the established far-left for people they call “TERFs” is just nauseating. A good chunk of those “TERFs” don’t even call themselves feminists, and yet they are “trans-exclusionary radical feminists” for asking questions. TERFs definitely exist, but it’s become a box to automatically push everyone you don’t like into.
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There is a... "fetish" among a certain set of "intellectuals" who desire to find everything leading back to some older book that's THE BIBLE FOR [X]. There was a small kerfuffle when that nutty Russian writers one book from the 1990s was discovered by Western media who claimed it was the guidebook to the secret Russian plot to rule the world even though the guy is super obscure even among nutty Russians. Every so often somebody like The New Yorker will run a piece finding some "ideological foundational work" for whatever right-wing trend they're most on about currently. Like there was supposedly some book CENTRAL to the TEA PARTY'S EXTREMISM that got peddled around, when you could just look at Tea Party rallies, or later the Trump rallies or QAnon crap and see pretty clearly that none of them are reading some stupid failed tome from two decades ago, let alone worshiping it. You have the same kind of thing sometimes like with that Thomas Piketty book nobody really read (and was a failure in France) but the Democratic Party/Obama was supposedly following the text.

It's probably some kind of comforting mechanism to say nobody truly believes in this, it's all because of some book that's hoodwinked them and if we can just debunk that book The People will see the light. Atheist circles and religious circles both often fall into this trap probably most obviously.

It's also a way to avoid arguing with actual people and their arguments, instead Contra can argue with this book from 1979. All while implying it has some kind of sinister motive behind existing that's deluding well meaning people into TERF evil. It wouldn't be surprising if the entire point was to argue with this book using an argument long ago constructed, and the request for people to write in is simply to add color around the fact that he's arguing with this book.
You see I on the right too when they point to Frankfurt school texts as the holy bibles of postmodern cultural Marxism despite the fact that people like Adorno were modernists who hated postmodernism (but contrary to leftytube’s claims there are Postmodern Marxists just as there are anti and non Marxist postmodernists). You see it too with certain right wing figures like Mencius Moldbug or Hans Herman Hoppe (neither of which are even full alt right) being singled out as the intellectual justification for the alt right. Most of these youtubers and their viewers want to seem like high iq philosophers, as philosophy has become fashionable again, but don’t want to do the actual hard reading nessicary to understand it so they just find some way to simplify movements to one or two books. It also plays of off people’s disgust reflex by allowing them to put all their in hate in a specific movement, book, or person which is nicer to believe then that everything impacts everything and you can’t really simplify things that way.

This one is so fucked up and yet the sheer lack of empathy from the established far-left for people they call “TERFs” is just nauseating. A good chunk of those “TERFs” don’t even call themselves feminists, and yet they are “trans-exclusionary radical feminists” for asking questions. TERFs definitely exist, but it’s become a box to automatically push everyone you don’t like into.
Terf is just a magical word at this point. The political connotations to leftists are much stronger then just trans exclusionary radical feminists. It represents someone who is hateful, denies science, is stupid, overly religious, snobby, and lots of other negotiable traits far beyond just hating trans people: it’s just become like racist or alt-right at this point
 

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You see I on the right too when they point to Frankfurt school texts as the holy bibles of postmodern cultural Marxism despite the fact that people like Adorno were modernists who hated postmodernism (but contrary to leftytube’s claims there are Postmodern Marxists just as there are anti and non Marxist postmodernists). You see it too with certain right wing figures like Mencius Moldbug or Hans Herman Hoppe (neither of which are even full alt right) being singled out as the intellectual justification for the alt right. Most of these youtubers and their viewers want to seem like high iq philosophers, as philosophy has become fashionable again, but don’t want to do the actual hard reading nessicary to understand it so they just find some way to simplify movements to one or two books.
When I wrote that I was trying to come up with some more right-wing examples or at least non left-wing examples to balance things out and was blanking but this is a good one. One other that comes to mind mentioning postmodernism is Jordan Peterson's ongoing jeremiad against Marxist postmodernists who he sees behind a nefarious organized plot. Except his "target" he always brings up is Derrida, who was a Marxist for like a week before wandering off into something more gibberish filled, and even postmodernists question how "postmodern" he was. And his latching onto Zizek as his demon to slay is part of this same thing, except Zizek is almost as bad of target as Derrida for similar reasons. And you often get the impression that Peterson has just skimmed a lot of this stuff then plugged the names in.

Contrapoints whole "how to spot Fascism" video was like this if you know anything about the actual history and ideology.

It's true that many TERF arguments can be traced back to this book, but virtually anyone familiar with feminism could have come up with the same arguments just on their own. You really don't need to read this book to reach the conclusion that transwomen tend to "embody stereotypical femininity". Just go through any famous transwoman's Instagram selfies or Youtube videos and trust your own eyes.
This is one of those problems that you see a lot in this "field" whatever we want to call it. Somebody had to write the book or article or something at some point. That doesn't mean the book actually was relevant in the movement, often it comes after the movement founds itself.

It's an obsession with the power of words over the actual power of the ideas. The whole concept of "dog whistles" (that opponents can always hear) is one of these. People don't like Reagan for the things he hinted at during a speech nobody heard, they like Reagan or whoever (Trump, etc.) for the things they're straight up saying. Reagan was influenced by Goldwater's Conscience of a Conservative because it was the first time he saw the ideas he was thinking for about a decade all written down in one place and gave him a label for it. The people who gave Reagan two landslide elections never read it, and many of them were the same people who rejected Goldwater himself sixteen years earlier. Many Reaganites were drawn more to Reagan's framing of the same ideas than they were by Bozell's hardline text. (Goldwater put his name on Conscience, L. Brent Bozell Jr. wrote it.)
 

Nykysnottrans

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Most of these youtubers and their viewers want to seem like high iq philosophers, as philosophy has become fashionable again, but don’t want to do the actual hard reading nessicary to understand it so they just find some way to simplify movements to one or two books.
If Nyk even actually bothers to read The Transsexual Empire, I don't think he will do it for the sake of familiarizing himself with TERF arguments. He already knows what these arguments are and we already know he disagrees with them. When you've already decided you hate communists, reading The Communist Manifesto is not going to convince you otherwise. I personally think Nyk is reading Raymond´s book right before his SRS mainly for bragging rights. He wants to be able to say: "I read Raymond's book and still went and got the snip. CHECKMATE TERFs!". It's about proving that he's so tough and strong in his conviction that this book left him entirely unaffected and unconvinced, which he thinks says something about the (lack of) persuasive power of the book. Because if it was such a great book it would obviously make him question his transition. It's kind of like the same way Atheists agree to read the Bible to show how unconvincing it is and of course to troll and piss off believers begging them to read it. Like I said, the book was written for lesbian feminists in the 1970s who were mostly unfamiliar with this new medical phenomenon of transsexuals. It was not meant as a detransitioning manual for dysphorics. Transsexuals were never the intended audience for the book - if that were the case, I am sure the tone of the book have been completely different - so this idea that trannies will see the "error" of their ways and decide to detransition after reading Raymond's book is ridiculous.

It's not "de-radicalization" if all you do is radicalize them in another direction
Exactly. A cult is a cult and Nyk's SJW cult is just another cult.
Also, he does not look like a woman in that Vice interview without his make up on.

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