Coronavirus: Lockdown Protests and Riots -

[FuckedUp]

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory...an-governors-social-distancing-order-70171015 (https://archive.md/IzsAp)

https://www.france24.com/en/20200418-violence-and-looting-point-to-food-crisis-in-s-africa-lockdown (https://archive.md/Vn7M5)

https://abcnews.go.com/US/hundreds-...alifornia-protest-stay-home/story?id=70223389 (https://archive.md/V5b87)

Was wondering how long it'd take. It's going to be an interesting spring/summer alright.

 

[Dysnomia]

These people are morons. But I knew this would happen. Especially Africa. California probably just wants to decriminalize Corona-chan so you are free to knowingly pass that slut on to everybody.

 

[JULAY]

https://colombiareports.com/we-are-hungry-protests-and-looting-in-colombia-as-food-distribution-fails/

 

[The Shadow]

So much for flattening that curve.

 

[CatParty]

So much for flattening that curve.

Thinning the herd

 

[Ivan Shatov]

https://colombiareports.com/we-are-hungry-protests-and-looting-in-colombia-as-food-distribution-fails/

Smithfield and Tyson Foods are below 20% production. JDS foods is about to get shut down, they were going public but the owners have been revealed to be up to all sorts of shennaigans.

These brands alone are responsible for about 10% of the US food supply. They are not the only businesses threatened by the pandemic, the longer this goes on, the closer we get to actual food shortages, the kind that are not easy to solve. While it's very hard to measure, about 40% of domestic production is at risk of going under right now. That's potentially catastrophic, riots would be the least of our worries.

Smithfield gets its supply from farmers in Iowa, South Dakota and Illinois, there are not enough meat manufacturing plants in the supply chain to process the unused animals. Animals cost money to feed, they have to be purchased and processed for the farms to survive financially. At some point, farmers will have to start killing them, which creates a situation where Smithfield can't come back online right away because they are waiting for supply to resume.

The longer Smithfield is out of action, the greater the price will be for anything involving pork, beef or chicken. Tyson makes the stuff that goes in freezers, a lot of prepared foods that come in boxes and bags. They are the most efficient food manufacturer with just-in-time processing practices that reduce stockpiles in favor of completing orders in 7 - 10 days from receipt. They get their stock from farms all over the US, heard once they have source supply chains extending to every state. About half their factories are off-line right now due to shutdown orders, even company executives can't tell you what they can produce.

The problem isn't going to be seen right now, it's going to be 6 months from now. $20 for a package of Bacon, $32 for a pound of ground beef, $300 briskets and $50 for a bag of chicken tenders. That's the kind of thing that could happen. Don't think this is going to result in a change to American eating habits, the prices of vegetables, canned goods, and all sorts of other consumables will go up too because of increased demand. There are some companies that will fail because they can't scale quickly enough and their labor costs will go through the roof.

What will be the political realities in a situation like that? Are we going to see people starving on the streets, looters raiding private homes to rob the freezers, bread lines set up at failed malls?

What's killing me about the relief bill is every week counts, the longer this takes to solve the closer we get to those kinds of situations. We need these businesses to stay in business, we need appropriate tests to ensure the health of workers, and we need to do it before supply and demand curves get all fucked up. There's a predictable business cycle everyone depends on, changes to that will be felt far and wide.

 

[GrinningCat]

Thinning the herd

Darwin works in mysterious ways.

Hopefully I'll never understand what goes on through these people's minds. The government is gonna do what they are gonna do and you standing there among hundreds of people getting coofed on and making a flare up even more probable isn't going to do anything.

"But muh rights!" you know who loses their rights? Dead people.

Corona-chan is rubbing her hands at this.

 

[Sped Xing]

"I will gladly give up my rights for the illusion of perfect safety."


How do I even communicate with someone as morally destitute as that? Seppuku is the onry way to restore your honor.

 

[GrinningCat]

I mean way to generalize someone that's just saying people are dumb for performing social gatherings in the interest of just shouting and holding up signs for no viable outcome in the midst of a pandemic that's still not under control I guess...

Also no one said there was a perfect safety... Rather steps to be safer. I should probably go into an aids clinic full of paper cuts because it's my right to step into whatever establishment I see fit correct? Just to protest they aren't giving out enough condoms or something they will ignore anyways.

 

[Mexican_Wizard_711]

The only good thing about this is that I get to LARP as anarchist and call people bootlickers and incels

flattening that curve.

Do you even know what that means?

 

[Toshiba]

I've seen this shit going around facebook

Whenever I see a tweet as an image on Facebook I know it's going to be an incredibly stupid opinion framed as a 'gotcha' to whichever side they're arguing against. Why can't people come up with their own stupid opinions any more??

Yes, probably there are self-employed people running small and medium sized businesses at the protests. They are the group that stands to lose most as their wages won't be subsidised, they still have costs to cover and their personal finances are likely entangled with their business. They're not just facing losing a couple of months' salary and they're also not big enough to get government money. I have no idea why this qualifies as astroturfed, I guess you have to be living in a squat to be an authentic protester?

If the lockdown is prolonged the loss of small and medium sized businesses will be the major change brought about by the whole pandemic. I know communists hate the idea of people having a stake in their community because there may be a financial reward in it but this is how places improve and quality of life goes up.

When local businesses go bust and choice is gone from the market I hope they enjoy dealing with the same 5 faceless megacorps for every single transaction, which have no local knowledge and carte blanche to set the price and treat you like shit.

Or will it dawn on them that actually a robust middle class was a vital link between the lower classes and the people at the top? I know supporting communism requires a lot of faith that the remote elites will be taking care of you and tucking you in at night but will they feel the same when that elite looks more like Jeff Bezos than Bernie Sanders or will they realise they've fucked themselves over?

Oh, and if you are trying to stop someone landscaping gardens because of the lockdown then please just admit you don't give a shit about health and are just in it for the economic sabotage.

 

[Disheveled Human]

Looks like the NEET's are winning they get to laugh at the wage cage people freaking the fuck out. People actually thought they had rights in America but looks like all it took for the government to dispel that illusion was a fucking dry cough.

 

[ConfederateIrishman]

Looks like the NEET's are winning they get to laugh at the wage cage people freaking the fuck out. People actually thought they had rights in America but looks like all it took for the government to dispel that illusion was a fucking dry cough.

See, the problem with all the people so surprised that their rights went away is that for decades to infringements such as the Patriot Act and the National Firearms Act have been tacitly accepted; The rights didn't just suddenly go away, the legal basis for it has been building for decades, over a century even. It's just that now all the emergency laws are beginning to be activated.

 

[TheGoodCensor]

Darwin works in mysterious ways.

Hopefully I'll never understand what goes on through these people's minds. The government is gonna do what they are gonna do and you standing there among hundreds of people getting coofed on and making a flare up even more probable isn't going to do anything.

"But muh rights!" you know who loses their rights? Dead people.

Corona-chan is rubbing her hands at this.

Really wondering what it kind of work it takes to be this dumb. Every piece of info that is finally coming to light shows that not only has the spread been absolutely more significant than previously thought, but many are totally asymptomatic. Its not like a second flu is a good thing, but shutting the world over it is absolutely the wrong move. Big daddy gubmint cant save you from nature.

 

[Sped Xing]

At least @Drain Todger admits his desire for big daddy to cumflate him is just a sexual kink, and doesn't seek to make it the basis of public policy.

 

[glass_houses]

Americans are fucking weird.

Australia closed its national borders and recalled its citizens from overseas four weeks ago. A number of state borders are also closed. There are less than 7000 confirmed cases and 71 deaths nationwide in Australia, so one hopes that it's been handled competently.

And then there's America, which has thousands of corpses lying about the place and tens of thousands of desperately ill paitents in makeshift field hospitals, people who are actually protesting quarantine measures in huge groups and saying, despite the disconcertingly large piles of corpses, that things aren't that bad. What the fuck, America? What the fuck?

 

[Unog]

Yes, probably there are self-employed people running small and medium sized businesses at the protests. They are the group that stands to lose most as their wages won't be subsidised, they still have costs to cover and their personal finances are likely entangled with their business. They're not just facing losing a couple of months' salary and they're also not big enough to get government money. I have no idea why this qualifies as astroturfed, I guess you have to be living in a squat to be an authentic protester?

If the lockdown is prolonged the loss of small and medium sized businesses will be the major change brought about by the whole pandemic. I know communists hate the idea of people having a stake in their community because there may be a financial reward in it but this is how places improve and quality of life goes up.

No, you don't get it, these people are just uneducated retards who don't understand that the govt would never ever overstep it's boundaries and ruin thousands of lives/businesses because the people at the top are almost all over 55+ or anything like that.

See, the problem with all the people so surprised that their rights went away is that for decades to infringements such as the Patriot Act and the National Firearms Act have been tacitly accepted; The rights didn't just suddenly go away, the legal basis for it has been building for decades, over a century even. It's just that now all the emergency laws are beginning to be activated.

I mean, in a way you're not wrong, but most of this is State not Federal action afaik.

Americans are fucking weird.

Australia closed its national borders and recalled its citizens from overseas four weeks ago. A number of state borders are also closed. There are less than 7000 confirmed cases and 71 deaths nationwide in Australia, so one hopes that it's been handled competently.

And then there's America, which has thousands of corpses lying about the place and tens of thousands of desperately ill paitents in makeshift field hospitals, people who are actually protesting quarantine measures in huge groups and saying, despite the disconcertingly large piles of corpses, that things aren't that bad. What the fuck, America? What the fuck?

You're comparing a continent with a population of 24 million to one with a population of 330+ million, it's not exactly a fair comparison.

 

[Just Some Other Guy]

Americans are fucking weird.

Australia closed its national borders and recalled its citizens from overseas four weeks ago. A number of state borders are also closed. There are less than 7000 confirmed cases and 71 deaths nationwide in Australia, so one hopes that it's been handled competently.

And then there's America, which has thousands of corpses lying about the place and tens of thousands of desperately ill paitents in makeshift field hospitals, people who are actually protesting quarantine measures in huge groups and saying, despite the disconcertingly large piles of corpses, that things aren't that bad. What the fuck, America? What the fuck?

Sure, I mean if you totally want to ignore the massive overreaches of power some governors are exerting then it'd be easy to come to that conclusion. Once again, why can I not buy paint or seeds when adjacent aisles are open? Why is protesting, literally what founded the nation, deemed non essential?

 

[Jamila]

Americans are fucking weird.

Australia closed its national borders and recalled its citizens from overseas four weeks ago. A number of state borders are also closed. There are less than 7000 confirmed cases and 71 deaths nationwide in Australia, so one hopes that it's been handled competently.

And then there's America, which has thousands of corpses lying about the place and tens of thousands of desperately ill paitents in makeshift field hospitals, people who are actually protesting quarantine measures in huge groups and saying, despite the disconcertingly large piles of corpses, that things aren't that bad. What the fuck, America? What the fuck?

That's like literally only New York. The US is a lot bigger than you think.

 

[heathercho]

Americans are fucking weird.

Australia closed its national borders and recalled its citizens from overseas four weeks ago. A number of state borders are also closed. There are less than 7000 confirmed cases and 71 deaths nationwide in Australia, so one hopes that it's been handled competently.

And then there's America, which has thousands of corpses lying about the place and tens of thousands of desperately ill paitents in makeshift field hospitals, people who are actually protesting quarantine measures in huge groups and saying, despite the disconcertingly large piles of corpses, that things aren't that bad. What the fuck, America? What the fuck?

NYC isn't all of America. That's the only state that's had those issues and that's down to outright incompetence.
Australia also isn't America. We have 25m, spread out over the size of roughly the US, vs the US' 328m.

I've seen a lot of Australians gloating, swallowing that government bullshit hook, line and sinker, like they've done such a great job and they're so noble and good for doing "what they should" to reduce numbers.
No. The numbers are proportionate to the conditions. New Zealand's lockdowns did exactly fuck all btw. Their rates per capita are awful. We're on the same par as countries that didn't lock down.

NYC had those hotboxes of disease, the subway, running at lower capacity with the same amount of people.
NYC also has a disproportionate amount of hospital beds for its population. New York is a mismanaged shit hole.
NY had a field hospital they didn't even need to use. Their morgues run at almost 100% during normal times, let alone when there's a small peak.
Oh and those field hospitals? ACT was busy erecting one of those at the start of the month.
For what you may ask, since we, in our wisdom, closed private hospitals to make 7500 ICU beds available, whilst we've only needed 80 at the peak.

Construction is expected to cost A$23 million and be completed sometime in May 2020

Well, I'm sure that will be fucking useful!

Australia has indulged in autistic lockdowns, lied to its citizens continuously (First "flatten the curve" then when that's flat as fuck "Oh... were SORTA flattening it" to "What curve?") and destroyed the economy for 0.0002% of the population death toll or a 0.027% infection rate.
Woohoo! Millions of unemployed and a $2b debt is sure worth it!

Conversely, studies coming out of just about every other sane nation is finding that Coronavirus isn't nearly as deadly as we were told, the modelling was as useful as tits on a bull and oh, would you look at that? It rips through the population at the same rate no matter if you smugly lockdown or not.

But don't worry! Australia's airtight plan of waiting for a vaccine will surely pan out. What's that? It's likely there is not going to be a vaccine or it will take 5-10 years to make? Meanwhile, China is going to buy Virgin Airlines, the airline you just gave $200mil to?

We have no right criticising those dumb Amerifats. We just need to admit we're too busy being virtuous and smug to realise we were played like a fiddle by those wily chinks.