Corporeal Punishment: Antiquated or All-important? - That's a paddlin'

[d12]

Hello again Kiwi komrades. When it comes to raising the little monsters known as children a variety of trials face the parents of today. Now back in the day, as I'm sure we are all aware, parents dealt with filial insolence with a sound smacking or two, but with the PC culture and all that this solution seems to be frowned upon if not outlawed entirely in much of the Western world. While some have decried the use of corporeal punishment as a barbaric and antiquated method of discipline, others have pointed to the youth of today as proof that it is much needed. My question to you is that do you believe corporeal punishment is necessary in rearing a good child and if so, why?

 

[1864897514651]

Most dogs in the hands of pet owners actually need to be euthanized because of the lack of corporeal punishment they received from their owners while developing. This analogy could be simply mapped to human children, but you cannot euthanize children. It is an egregious failure to honor the Fourth Commandment on the part of the parents if the parents do not corporeally punish their children. I would go as far as to say it could potentially be a mortal sin to not hit your children when necessary.

 

[Derbydollar]

Punishment has its place in discipline, but if your children are behaving poorly enough to deserve a belt whipping then the problem is probably more fundamental... Like the environment. Be a good role model, don't spoil your children, and teach them why certain things are right and wrong. You can yell and hit them all you want, but you can't cook a good meal without all the ingredients.

 

[millais]

It's probably necessary to initially establish the basic stimuli necessary for behavioral conditioning of children. At the very early stage of their mental development, pain or discomfort may be the only stimuli that they can reliably identify as a negative consequence.

 

[Rand /pol/]

I got the belt I turned out fine

 

[ES 148]

I was dipped in oil and set on fire whenever I acted up.

 

[PREACHERGOKU]

Not a fan of spiritual punishment tbh.

 

[GloryHole Stalker]

Welp, my mother used to snuff out her cigarettes on my back when I'd get out of line, and when my older sister used to babysit me, I'd get a nice big blowjob at the end of the night if I was a good lil fella...

Seriously though, I was only spanked twice by parents (once by mom, once by dad). actually 3 times if you count the time my stepmom beat me with a stick (long story). And with my own kids I only gave them an ass paddling if everything else (a good talking to, time out, taking away their video games etc) didn't halt their wayward behavior. I've always felt if you need to use something other than your hand (paddle, belt, stick. whatever) to discipline your child, you're creating more problems than you are solving. Maybe I'm just a soft hearted faggot.

 

[Hellbound Hellhound]

The consensus among psychologists seems to be that physically punishing children is counter-productive at best, and actively damaging to their development and well-being at worst.

Personally, I've never really understood why hitting children is considered acceptable by so many people. We don't generally accept the idea of an adult being physically hurt as a consequence for their misdeeds, yet we will apparently sanction it in the case of small children, who are not only much more susceptible to pain than an adult, but also far less accountable for their actions.

It's actually kind of fucked up.

 

[spurger king]

It's probably necessary to initially establish the basic stimuli necessary for behavioral conditioning of children. At the very early stage of their mental development, pain or discomfort may be the only stimuli that they can reliably identify as a negative consequence.

This is basically what I think. "No" doesn't mean anything unless it's backed by the capacity for violence. The rationale for corporal punishment is not "you pissed me off, now I'm gonna hit you". That's not punishment, it's petty vengeance and you're a shit parent if you do it. The idea instead is "I have your best interests at heart, and if you disobey me you'll suffer". Little kids don't know shit and so if you need to tell them something like "don't run out into traffic" they need to know on a visceral level that disobeying you will have immediate and painful consequences.

 

[Replicant Sasquatch]

Physical discipline is necessary but difficult for today's pussy parents. This is why I put up fliers around my town offering to take people's brats behind the shed for them. For a nominal fee of course.

 

[the autist of dojima]

My father cut my finger when i fucked up
Ever since i have never made a mistake again (except for joining this shithole)

 

[Toucan]

Some day your child will grow up and be stronger than you, maybe when they are about 14-16. Then the one method you have used to instil discipline becomes useless. You will have nothing to replace it with either. How will your child take you seriously when you feebly threaten them with the naughty step after having spent years whacking them with a belt?

Corporal punishment is the choice of the idiot parent. The idiot parent that doesn't think too far into the future.

Also it makes you a cunt too. And your kids will resent you for it deep down.

 

[PS1gamenwatch]

We don't generally accept the idea of an adult being physically hurt as a consequence for their misdeeds, yet we will apparently sanction it in the case of small children, who are not only much more susceptible to pain than an adult, but also far less accountable for their actions.

Some Southeast Asian countries still cane adults for crap like smoking and being gay and shit. What do you think was the inspiration for these:

Some day your child will grow up and be stronger than you, maybe when they are about 14-16. Then the one method you have used to instil discipline becomes useless. You will have nothing to replace it with either. How will your child take you seriously when you feebly threaten them with the naughty step after having spent years whacking them with a belt?

Corporal punishment is the choice of the idiot parent. The idiot parent that doesn't think too far into the future.

Also it makes you a cunt too. And your kids will resent you for it deep down.

And those types of parents usually end up dumped in a retirement home or homeless in the streets pretending to be war vets.

 

[Positron]

Some day your child will grow up and be stronger than you, maybe when they are about 14-16. Then the one method you have used to instil discipline becomes useless. You will have nothing to replace it with either. How will your child take you seriously when you feebly threaten them with the naughty step after having spent years whacking them with a belt?

You switch to financial punishment. When that doesn't work either, congrats! You've raised a productive member of society!
(Or a criminal -- in which case tell on him so that Bubba can deliver his ever-effective corporal punishment.)

 

[PS1gamenwatch]

You switch to financial punishment. When that doesn't work either, congrats! You've raised a productive member of society!
(Or a criminal -- in which case tell on him so that Bubba can deliver his ever-effective corporal punishment.)

Or the parents could just give the cold shoulder and let the kid run off and go through what the prodigal son went through and wait ten years for the kid to come crawling back. Or 20 if they haven’t learned their lesson yet.

 

[Slap47]

I don't think the issue is fear. I thnk the issue is respect and expectations.

Both asians that beat their kids and those that don't have children that succeed because those children have instilled in them the expectation that they'll bust their ass.

Black people beat their kids as punishment and they're still a dysfunctional lot. Even those that beat their kids for good reasons and not for "actin white" aren't doing as well as first generation Asian immigrants.

Kids raised right don't require a beating to feel defeated and remorseful for doing wrong or failing.

Most dogs in the hands of pet owners actually need to be euthanized because of the lack of corporeal punishment they received from their owners while developing. This analogy could be simply mapped to human children, but you cannot euthanize children. It is an egregious failure to honor the Fourth Commandment on the part of the parents if the parents do not corporeally punish their children. I would go as far as to say it could potentially be a mortal sin to not hit your children when necessary.

The issue is the dog not respecting the owner. You don't need to beat the shit out of a dog to instill respect or cement your dominance...perhaps with Pitbulls.

 

[8777BB5]

The best advice I heard about Corporal punishment is that it should never be done in a rage. If someone does something that warrants it being used, you send them elsewhere and then when you get calm enough to address the situation you do it then. Too many times parents, teachers, whatever go straight to beating the kid while they're in a rage, which can cause things to get elevated to a ridiculous level.

 

[SeaPancake]

I find people who hit children with instruments or objects to be barbaric. My Mum spanked me and my siblings as a last resort. Usually the threat of a spanking was enough to make us stop doing whatever it was we were doing.

 

[Replicant Sasquatch]

I find people who hit children with instruments or objects to be barbaric. My Mum spanked me and my siblings as a last resort. Usually the threat of a spanking was enough to make us stop doing whatever it was we were doing.

My dad would spank us when we were little, but he would never ever use an object to hit us. He was disgusted with that and he'd fly off the fucking wall if we ever hit each other with a wooden spoon or something like that.