Covid-19 Food Insecurity - Poverty is real, but is doomerism being used for political gain?

Bibendum

Rubber baron
kiwifarms.net
I've seen tons of articles over the past few months about a looming hunger crisis, both in America and abroad. Hardly a day goes by without the media publishing photos of endless lines of cars queuing up at food banks. There have been alarming warnings of mass Third World starvation, particularly in Africa, and the UN World Food Programme has been begging nations to increase their humanitarian aid. I would never deny that poverty and hunger are serious and widespread problems (in a global context), and I'm sure the lockdowns have increased food insecurity among the West's poorest too. However, I'm a little skeptical of the warnings of "200 million projected to die of hunger due to covid," and in particular the claims of impending Western mass starvation.

Africa has had very few coof deaths relative to the rest of the world, likely because it has a very young population and less dense living conditions outside of the major cities. Much of Africa did lock down (though I question how effective enforcement could possibly be), which has predictably harmed its economies through loss of jobs and trade. However, the predicted spike in mass hunger has yet to materialize.

“Honestly, I’m not convinced [by the numbers],” said one senior Nairobi-based aid official, who asked not to be named so they could speak freely. “Some of the scenarios by us were done back in March/April and were [calculated] on a much longer lockdown period.”
The aid workers pointed to the deeper, existing problems of conflict and economic crisis, and emphasised the need not to lose focus on those core issues.

Basically, it seems like people on the ground think that the coof-related hunger projections were overblown, and that the main causes of food insecurity in Africa are still conflict and economic issues. Yet the UN and other organizations are still shilling their faulty predictions and attempting to guilt the West into providing more aid money.

I'm more skeptical of the American hunger projections since naturally I'm more familiar with the situation in my own country. I absolutely believe that people are financially struggling due to the lockdowns, that much is indisputable. But I get the feeling that the media is pushing dramatic food bank images and similar doomerism in an attempt to increase public demand for further economic intervention. I've seen articles basically saying "Americans want more socialism because of covid," where the authors exploit some poor family in a transparent attempt to gin up support for stuff like UBI. I obviously sympathize with those in desperate straits, but my bullshit detector starts to go off when I read things like this:

Corina Martinez never expected to find herself in a food bank line. As a customer service representative for a financial institution in El Paso, Texas, Martinez is usually able to feed her three kids with the help of free school meals. But when the government shut down schools in March as a result of COVID-19, she was out of options.

This lady is lucky enough to have kept her job, she has a husband, and yet losing free school lunches for her kids was enough to drive the family into hunger? I'm sorry, I don't buy it. If three extra PB&Js a day sends you into destitution, you shouldn't have had three children. The article also features this photo of another lady making use of the food bank:

ana_and_jose_29_f93a7388_d0c8e59b6a620551d49afb764c6bbe7e.fit-560w.jpg
Not the image I'd personally choose if I wanted to convey a plight of severe hunger. The article continues:

According to the Center for American Progress, women and people of color have been disproportionately affected by the pandemic across the country. Single-mother households are two-and-a-half times more likely to experience food insecurity than other households, according to Feeding America.

What a surprise. Of course, the media claims that the only solution to this problem is substantially increasing welfare benefits. I think a worthy long-term solution would be to stop encouraging family breakdown and to stop incentivizing people to have kids they can't afford. And about those massive food bank car lines -- I have no idea if this hypothesis is correct, but perhaps it deserves some consideration -- could the panic to increase home food supplies be driving people to take advantage of free food resources, even if they aren't going hungry, because they're afraid of crowded supermarkets and empty shelves?

I'd like to know what my fellow farmers think of the American coof-hunger issue -- totally legit, or exaggerated by the media for political gain?
 

JamalActimel

The evidence is going to SHOW!!!!!
kiwifarms.net
It's a real problem tons of people wait in line every day in my country to get some food/money/help.(and it's not a third world country shithole)
Don't know if they were always there and covid made them more visible or if they were created by the crisis most likely both.

But it's a realy thing
 

Lonely Grave

they're being sarcastic
kiwifarms.net
I live in a fairly self-sufficient state but we're not seeing any real shortages in imported consumer goods despite being on the ass-end of the world in terms of supply lines. The real issue in our scenario is shitty people in shitty circumstances refusing to do even the slightest amount of logistics research (e.g. where their fucking toilet paper is being supplied from - we experienced a shortage due to "but the chinks produce everything!!!111!!!" despite 80% of it being manufactured in the next state over). I can't speak for Europe or any other country with lesser infrastructure but where there is existing bad administration there will be badly managed crisis contingency as a result.
 

Stilgar of Troon

Facial Fremen-isation Surgery
True & Honest Fan
kiwifarms.net
Food banks, charity relief et al have been part of daily life for a depressingly large amount of people in the part of bongland that I live in. Even pre-covid, it wasn't uncommon to pass soup kitchens and food banks and see huge queues. The soup kitchens/Salvation Army kitchens are mostly used by the homeless, but not by any means exclusively.
I don't think covid is causing the shortages that some claim it is, but I can't imagine it's helping matters at all.
 

Troonos

Regrettable Cake Farts
kiwifarms.net
America no longer has starvation. The pendulum has swung too far in the opposite direction, and our poor are massively overfed and dying of diabetes and CVD. I rounded on a patient last month that was a 350-pound homeless man with long-uncontrolled diabetes. That doesn't happen in a country with food shortages.
 

Sweetpeaa

kiwifarms.net
Here in Canada food banks are already reporting empty shelves. Covid is only picking up on the devastation here, people are now getting EI (unemployment) but after that runs out there's going to be lots of jobs that are never coming back. It's not going to be a case of people being able to return to work and gradually bounce back in the new year financially. Many people are just fucked. And the hunger crisis here has just begun right at the time where winter is starting.
 

ColtWalker1847

kiwifarms.net
It absolutely isn't a supply issue in the US. Even when doomers and preppers were panic buying to fill their Charmin fortresses back in April we never came remotely close to running out. Nor did prices jump up putting things out of reach for consumers. The US is incredibly food secure. That's actually one the USDA's main jobs and why those farmers get subsidies and shit. To make sure food supplies are always plentiful and prices stable.

It's all your typical recession sob story crap. More people out of work means they have less income to spend on food kinda deal. Though with EBT and other programs you kinda wonder what the hell their spending habits are if they are running out. It buys a lot of chicken and rice.
 

Just Some Other Guy

kiwifarms.net
It absolutely isn't a supply issue in the US. Even when doomers and preppers were panic buying to fill their Charmin fortresses back in April we never came remotely close to running out. Nor did prices jump up putting things out of reach for consumers. The US is incredibly food secure. That's actually one the USDA's main jobs and why those farmers get subsidies and shit. To make sure food supplies are always plentiful and prices stable.

It's all your typical recession sob story crap. More people out of work means they have less income to spend on food kinda deal. Though with EBT and other programs you kinda wonder what the hell their spending habits are if they are running out. It buys a lot of chicken and rice.
If only EBT got used for actual food staples.
 

Shroom King

kiwifarms.net
However, I'm a little skeptical of the warnings of "200 million projected to die of hunger due to covid,

Globalists: "We need to do more to fight global starvation. Billions of lives are at stake!"

FIVE MINUTES LATER...

Globalists: "We need to drive electric cars, eat bugs and develop greener technology to offset the impact of the population doubling by 2050!"

Fuck off, globalists. Maybe stop feeding people who too busy breeding like rabbits to grow their own food?
 
Top