Covid/mRNA Vaccine Info General - You Are Not "Vaccine Hesitant" For Using Critical Thinking

[EyelessMC]

Concern against or about the Covid vaccines and the background information about them is valid and not just the babbling of vaccine abolitionists (anti-vax) or scare mongers.
If you or a loved one are in the demographic most as risk regarding Covid, speak to your doctor about whether or not you should get vaccinated. Be informed.
EDIT: Here's a resource on "Post-Viral Fatigue", useful info for those potentially suffering certain adverse effects of viral illness or vaccine:

https://www.nbt.nhs.uk/our-services/a-z-services/bristol-chronic-fatigue-syndromeme-service/post-viral-fatigue-a-guide-management

Decided to make an OP with the information instead of continually bloating that one post in the "Are you getting the vaccine?" thread. Since this isn't a bait thread hopefully we can have better discussion. I'll split this up into four sections, "Science", "BigPharma". "Silicon Valley" and "Government". The first video will touch on a little of all four and is a good introduction. My point here is the same as the other thread:

Science

Spoiler

SPIKE PROTEIN STUDY, VASCULAR DISEASE & VACCINES (& CDC Investigation into myocarditis in vaccinated teens)

SARS-CoV-2's S protein (Spike protein) causes cellular damage even on its own (without virus), published scientific study proves. This also proves Covid-19 is a "vascular disease". Note that all four covid vaccine brands cause the vaccinated patient's body's cells to "express" the spike proteins which the aforementioned study proved was alone capable of causing vascular damage and related events (such as blood clots). Even without the virus the S protein can cause severe damage.
Full breakdown can be found here. Simpler post with info HERE.
Archives: Published Study https://archive.md/xIaoS , Salk Institute explanation https://archive.md/hgjK4 , Salk-linked article on vax https://archive.md/TNiEl
Credit to @Oliveoil for bringing it up in the other thread. Credit to @Devyn for the initial news article ( Archive )

CDC's VaST advisory committee finds myocarditis to be potential adverse effect of vaccines in kids (after recommending ages 12-15+ get vaccinated less than a month prior, the FDA giving emergency approval to do so

Preliminary report details potential adverse reaction of myocarditis from vaccination in teenagers and adolescents, particularly male. Reports arise roughly 4 days after second shot. I also provided info on what myocarditis is and what diagnosis and treatment entails. Post going into deeper detail is here. No mention of Spike protein study or any potential correlation.
Archive: CDC report https://archive.md/jmDpX

Here's an excerpt from a great post with another perspective on this subject (and vaccine adjuvants) courtesy of @Secret Asshole

All I'm saying is if you picture the Spike proteins like a drug, they're half-life is 10 minutes. As in, in 10 minutes 50% of them will be degraded by proteases in the blood. Now mind, it takes 1 minute for blood to fully pump around the body.

My argument is that they're not going to stick around in the body for months or for years. That being said, is it possible for the Spike proteins to stick to the vasculature and provoke an inflammatory immune response? And since the immune response of young people would be stronger? Yes. An immune response can stick around longer than the protein itself, so it could hyper activate, attacking vasculature. It wouldn't be the Spike protein itself responsible, but the excessive immune response. You also have to understand, even if the Spike protein is gone, an immune response doesn't just stop. There's a ramp up time. So it ramps up in two days, excessively attacks the vasculature and symptoms appear two days later. Despite most of the mRNA and Spike sticking around at the injection site, some makes it into the plasma. You also have to remember, its not the Spike protein doing the damage, its our immune response to it.

In another post he also mentions that all the vaccines contain Polyethylene Glycol and links a study from 2018 on "Physician Awareness of Immune Responses to Polyethylene Glycol-Drug Conjugates". Archive.

In his words:

In all honesty, we can't know if the reaction [in reference to Bad Take Crucifier's partner's ongoing reaction to the Moderna vaccine] was from the mRNA itself, the Spike protein or even one of the other constituents of the vaccine. The COVID vaccine contains Polyethylene Glycol. It sounds bad, but it is literally in everything. It could be that they were sensitized to that and is having an immune response to that.

Dr. Bryam Bridle, lipid nanoparticles in Covid vax, vaccinating children & Canadian MP Derek Sloan on the censorship of scientists (Jan 17, 21)
Courtesy of @Lichen Bark -- Video has Dr. Byram Bridle (Professor of Viral Immunology, University of Guelph) (who previous spoke on the Spike proteins in the vaccine) making public statements on data. A couple other doctors talk about ivermectin, etc. Dr. Bridle calls for a halt on vaccinating the kids until a higher safety level for the vaccine is achieved. Also publicly says the lipid nanoparticles in the vaccine do go everywhere, including the brain, and references the Japanese study of Pfizer's vaccine.
[Note: Study is in Japanese, acquired by Dr. Bridle via "Freedom of Information" request. Apparently this is the English translation of the study]

Spoiler: Video summary with timestamp links (from Lichen Bark)

byram bridle comes on

heart inflamation and vaccine

how quickly the smear campaign and the threats started after mentioning the heart inflamation

his website and guide for parents canadiancovidcarealliance.org

Says to not vaccinate kids until better safety testing, lipid nanoparticles DO go all over the body, as little as 25% of the dose stays in shoulder

the lipid nanoparticles can cross the blood brain barrier

attacks the testing of the vaccines, lack of modelling, only done in rats, they have only evaluated the lipid particles, not the actual mRNA component

talks about inadequate reproductive effect testing

stresses the urgent need to not vaccinate healthy children yet

talks about his career in jeopardy over this, how scientists and doctors are being supressed

Dr. Patrick Phillips comes on, emergency room doctor, doctor regulatory body threatening doctors over alternative treatments, vaccine risks, discusses harms of lockdowns, ivermectin and vitamin D benefits

Ivermectin 75% reduction in COVID-19 mortality, vitamin D mortality reduction

DR. Welsh on how science is being ignored

On the level of censorship in Canada, and metions the vaccines are not fully approved, dangers of mixing politics and medicine

Spoiler: Archive of above video

Radio interview with Dr. Bryam Bridle on the Spike Protein danger in Covid vaccine and its correlation to heart inflammation, blood clots, vascular issues and potential female infertility:

Both Pfizer & Moderna Vaccines Can Cause Side Effect Resembling Breast Cancer
As of February 2021 there has been a trickling influx of vaccinated female patients reporting a scary lump near their armpit region.

Credit to @Abracadabra

Spoiler: Archives & Excerpts

“We also see swollen lymph nodes in patients with breast cancer, so that’s the concern there. So we are asking everybody who is having a mammogram if they had the COVID-19 vaccine, what dose, when, and what side,” said Marshall...
“Sometimes with other vaccines, occasionally we will see swollen lymph nodes, but it was a surprise how many we’ve been seeing,” said Marshall.

Marshall said patients are seeing swollen lymph nodes two to four days after the vaccine and they decrease in size after two to four weeks. If they persist longer than that, Marshall said they need to
be evaluated.

“This really shows the importance of women getting an annual mammogram screening starting when they are 40 years old. Do not delay,” said Marshall.
(Above excerpt from https://archive.md/FcS44 )

It could also trigger a false positive on a mammogram, upping the need for unnecessary further testing, said Dr. Brett Parkinson, medical director of Intermountain Medical Center Breast Care Center in Murray, Utah.

It's very unusual in the normal screening population to see enlarged lymph nodes. We only see it about 0.2% to 0.4% of the time," Parkinson said.
"So when we see it, it does raise a red flag, because when that kind of lymph node swelling is present, about 50% of the time, it can represent either a metastatic breast cancer that has gone from the breast to the lymph node under the arm, or leukemia or lymphoma," he added.

When doctors see this, they want the patient to return. "We do additional testing, usually ultrasound, and often we will do a biopsy to rule out one of those malignancies," Parkinson said...

However, doctors do want to see women if they have any of the other signs and symptoms of breast cancer, vaccination or not, Parkinson said....

"Those are signs that are worrisome, and you should still come in," Parkinson said. "We don't want women to postpone that."
(Above excerpt from https://archive.md/iu97Y )

Inventor of mRNA Vaccine, Dr. Robert Malone, voices concern about post-COVID genetic vaccine syndromes, calls for transparency (also brief insight into "traditional vaccine" alternative NovaVax)

The article from the Western Journal references several twitter posts from Dr. Malone where he raises questions about the scientific community and the mRNA vaccines, particularly with regard to concern about the gene vaccines' potential ramifications.
His full name is Dr. Robert Malone and he really is the inventor of the mRNA vaccine technology. He also happens to be retweeting, posting and writing about the politicization of the subject while raising awareness--yet again--to the Spike protein subject, this time citing the same study as the OP from the Salk Institute (which he worked for in 1988, where he apparently invented the mRNA vax tech).

“Regarding post-COVID genetic vaccine syndromes. I know they happen, do not know how severe or frequent,” he wrote. “I argue for data transparency from @CDCGlobal @CDCgov and #QALY based risk/benefit assessment. Data. Science-based Medicine. Honesty. Transparency. Bioethics. Not conspiracy.” -Dr. Malone

With regards to the upcoming contender for Covid vaccination, the NovaVax vaccine, the article states:

But Malone’s wariness coincides with the development of a “traditional” vaccine introduced by the U.S.-based company Novavax that’s now being labeled the “Coronavax.”
According to TrialSite News, this traditional vaccine “demonstrated 100% protection against moderate and severe disease” and “90.4% overall efficacy,” keeping this “Coronavax” competitive with mRNA-based vaccines and superior to the Adenovirus-based Johnson & Johnson vaccine.

Ultimately his major concern--much the like aforementioned Dr. Byram Bridle--is with regards to a lack of sufficient safety testing, lack of transparency in scientific study, the politicization of bias regarding the vaccines and the widespread notice of side effects (blood clots, myocarditis, etc.) which may be caused by the Spike protein in the vaccine or other elements of it, among other subjects.


Recent commentary publication in The Lancet (major scientific journal) details how the current reporting methods for Covid vaccine efficacy are leading to bias and being informed by "uncoordinated" scientific trials

Archive: https://archive.md/hf7nU
Excerpts: [note: RRR is "Relative Risk Reduction", ARR is "Absolute Risk Reduction"]

ARRs tend to be ignored [in reports] because they give a much less impressive effect size than RRRs: 1·3% for the AstraZeneca–Oxford, 1·2% for the Moderna–NIH, 1·2% for the J&J, 0·93% for the Gamaleya, and 0·84% for the Pfizer–BioNTech vaccines. ARR is also used to derive an estimate of vaccine effectiveness, which is the number needed to vaccinate (NNV) to prevent one more case of COVID-19 as 1/ARR.

There are many lessons to learn from the way studies are conducted and results are presented. With the use of only RRRs, and omitting ARRs, reporting bias is introduced, which affects the interpretation of vaccine efficacy.10 When communicating about vaccine efficacy, especially for public health decisions such as choosing the type of vaccines to purchase and deploy, having a full picture of what the data actually show is important, and ensuring comparisons are based on the combined evidence that puts vaccine trial results in context and not just looking at one summary measure, is also important. Such decisions should be properly informed by detailed understanding of study results, requiring access to full datasets and independent scrutiny and analyses.

Unfortunately, comparing vaccines on the basis of currently available trial (interim) data is made even more difficult by disparate study protocols, including primary endpoints (such as what is considered a COVID-19 case, and when is this assessed), types of placebo, study populations, background risks of COVID-19 during the study, duration of exposure, and different definitions of populations for analyses both within and between studies, as well as definitions of endpoints and statistical methods for efficacy. Importantly, we are left with the unanswered question as to whether a vaccine with a given efficacy in the study population will have the same efficacy in another population with different levels of background risk of COVID-19.

Enclosed at the bottom in the OP is a PDF of the publication. Credit to @knobslobbin
Edit: Another commentary (below) voicing concern and counterpoint to the above publication: Credit to @Abracadabra who also has a lot of information, links and counterpoints for context and balance in his posts ITT, worth the read.

Spoiler: Excerpt

Commentary on the article in the same journal:

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanmic/article/PIIS2666-5247(21)00119-1/fulltext

“In a Lancet Microbe Comment, Piero Olliaro and colleagues
1 suggest that reporting relative risk reduction (RRR) for vaccination does not reflect entirely its therapeutic performance and consider the solw use of RRR a reporting bias. In addition, they propose that absolute risk reduction (ARR) should be reported as a measure of the vaccine's effectiveness. The authors end up comparing the numbers needed to vaccinate to prevent one case of COVID-19 among the vaccines, which derives from the absolute reductions.
However, this suggestion might have a paradoxical effect in misleading perception of treatment performance.

This approach disregards three epidemiological facts.

First, number needed to treat (NNT) is not an intrinsic property of a treatment, it is rather a property of the population that receives a treatment...

Second, the authors raise a concern that different levels of background risk might change relative risk reduction of studies. This statement disregards the constant property of relative risk repeatedly demonstrated by subgroup analysis of clinical trials and meta-scientific evaluations of a treatment across studies of different baseline risks...

Finally, effectiveness—a real-world property—is about clinical decision making, and not to be derived from efficacy studies (randomised controlled studies)...”

NACI Recommendation and Risk Analysis

Canada's NACI (highest authority on vaccines) gave their recommendation about the Astra Zeneca vax. Twitter mobs calling them all "anti-vax" for it.
Credit to @Sweet Yuzu

Spoiler: Sweet Yuzu's post & the article with excerpts

So there's a little media/twitter tard fight going on in Canada RN. The country's highest authority on vaccines stated they do not recommend the Astra Zeneca vaccine to young people under 30, especially ones who don't go out much and live in provinces like those in Atlantic Canada who aren't as hard hit because the risk of the clots is actually higher than dying of COVID in that age group.
This caused some I FUCKING LOVE SCIENCE people to tard rage on twitter and call our country's vaccine authority "anti-vaxers" who are "spreading disinformation". [...]

NACI is right about AstraZeneca. It shouldn’t be 'unsettling' to trust the public with uncomfortable information

Analysis: Despite repeated calls to 'listen to the science,' politicians are now openly telling Canadians to ignore one of our most unbiased scientific bodies

nationalpost.com

https://archive.md/wip/JSpvv

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LOL @ Dominic Cardy talking about science like a religion.

The UK's AstraZeneca Vaccine has been Banned in 18 Countries, including France, Germany, two weeks in Spain, Italy, etc. over concern of blood clots

Archives: https://archive.md/1VCLq , https://archive.md/S0Zx7

The Problem of Current Vaccines Needing Even More R&D Against SARS-CoV-2 variants

Spoiler: TL;DR Summation

The 15-16 different variants of Covid which are currently understood or being investigated. Four of them are "moderately" able to evade current vaccines (5/8/21) and potentially more, which could mean anyone vaccinated "today" with the current vax would need to be vaccinated as soon as the superior and more effective vax comes along. Most noteably the P.1 and B.1.351 variants which each make the mRNA vaccines 4-7 and 6-8 fold less effective respectively. As of this article (March 30, 2021), Pfizer is testing to see if just getting a third shot of the initial two-shot vaccine would help (more jabs, more strength?) but is also working on reformulating their vaccine to be more effective across the board, as is Moderna, Novavax, etc.

Archived WebMD article: https://archive.md/dXNn3

EXCERPT: Of the three "variants of concern" recognized by the World Health Organization and the CDC, studies have shown that the mRNA vaccines created by Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna, as well as the Novavax vaccine, remain highly effective against the B.1.1.7 variant, which was first recognized in the United Kingdom.
The mRNA vaccines are 4- to 7-fold less effective against the P.1 variant, which was first discovered in Brazil, but they still appear to be within an important "cushion of protection," particularly after two doses, and should prevent disease, according to Anthony Fauci, MD, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.

The B.1.351 variant is more troublesome. Studies have shown that the AstraZeneca vaccine was 86 times less effective against this variant, which was first detected in South Africa. The mRNA vaccines are 6- to 8-fold less effective against this variant, suggesting a significant waning of protection. In clinical trials in South Africa, the Johnson & Johnson vaccine also was less effective where this variant was surging.

Mass Misinterpretation of Covid Diagnosis with PCR Testing
Nobel laureate and inventor of the PCR test, Biochemist Kary Mullis, explains that the PCR test does not prove you are sick/going to be harmed

Here is another video explaining it:

Spoiler: VIDEO: Kary Mullis speaks about Dr. Fauci

Credit to @Devyn

CDC USED DATA FROM SINGAPORE TO EXAGGERATE OUTDOOR COVID TRANSMISSION RISK (masks more effective indoors/in crowds)

Archive of full article: https://archive.md/JrC6I

Spoiler: An aside: my previous posts detailing the first distribution of the mRNA vaccines, Covid19 & Vaccines' potential effect on Reproduction, and further

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COVID19 Wuhan Lab Escape Theory is Viable Backed by Science

https://archive.md/KMQD9
Not only does SARS-CoV-2 contain genetic fingerprints of lab origin but said genome provides evidence suggesting "gain of function" research (see more in the spoiler below). The science itself says the Covid virus is not of natural origin.

Spoiler: Previous Info on the Lab Leak Theory's Viability, NIH Funding of Wuhan Lab, Gain of Function

There continues to be reputable and international calls for transparency and investigation into the viable theory that Covid originated from the Wuhan lab (and a confrontation about "gain of function research" (ie experimenting and strengthening viruses))
Archives: https://archive.md/KMecB https://archive.md/MHFb3 https://archive.md/rksIA

Spoiler: VIDEO: Sen. Rand Paul Confronting Dr. Anthony Fauci on the subject and relation to "gain of function research"

Credit to @sperginity for an informative post relating to this, and credit also to @Bad Take Crucifier for an update on Dr. Li-Meng Yan, one of the first major scientists to speak out about this subject and who underwent massive widespread censorship and apparently the CCP arrested her mother over it (as the CCP is wont to do)

Update (5/28/2021): Brief excerpt overview of Dr. Fauci, NIH, Research Grants & Recent Senat Gain-of-Function Ban

Spoiler

Spoiler: VIDEO: Former VP of Pfizer and Chief Scientific Officer of Allergy and Respiratory Research Dr. Mike Yeadon's Warning

Credit to @knobslobbin
Also consider this post for extra info on claims and associates.

BigPharma

Spoiler

UNIQUE INDEMNIFICATION

https://archive.md/gM9Vd

“It is very rare for a blanket immunity law to be passed,” said Rogge Dunn, a Dallas labor and employment attorney. “Pharmaceutical companies typically aren’t offered much liability protection under the law.“

You also can’t sue the Food and Drug Administration for authorizing a vaccine for emergency use, nor can you hold your employer accountable if they mandate inoculation as a condition of employment.
...
In February, Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar invoked the Public Readiness and Emergency Preparedness Act. The 2005 law empowers the HHS secretary to provide legal protection to companies making or distributing critical medical supplies, such as vaccines and treatments, unless there’s “willful misconduct” by the company. The protection lasts until 2024. That means that for the next four years, these companies “cannot be sued for money damages in court” over injuries related to the administration or use of products to treat or protect against Covid.

“When the government said, ‘We want you to develop this four or five times faster than you normally do,’ most likely the manufacturers said to the government, ‘We want you, the government, to protect us from multimillion-dollar lawsuits,’” said Dunn.
“The government doesn’t want people suing the companies making the Covid vaccine. Because then, the manufacturers would probably charge the government a higher price per person per dose,” Dunn explained.

Remember, vaccine manufacturers aren’t the ones approving their product for mass distribution. That is the job of the FDA.
Which begs the question, can you sue the U.S. government if you have an extraordinarily bad reaction to a vaccine?
“You can’t sue the FDA for approving or disapproving a drug,” said Dorit Reiss, a professor at the University of California Hastings College of Law. “That’s part of its sovereign immunity.”



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Wow, expressing this as it actually is sounds super fucking sketchy, doesn't it?

Pfizer's Previous Nigerian Lawsuit (experimental antibiotics)
Pfizer settled out of court for £50 Million for killing 11 children, causing organ failure, brain damage to many more in Nigeria with experimental antibiotics.
https://archive.md/TMkg5

The US-based company sent a team of its doctors into the Nigerian slum city of Kano in the midst of an appaling meningitis epidemic to perform what it calls a "humanitarian mission". However the accusers claim it was an unlicensed medical trial on critically-ill children.

A team of Pfizer doctors reached the Nigerian camp just as the outbreak, which killed at least 11,000 people, was peaking. They set themselves up within metres of a medical station run by the aid group Médecins Sans Frontières, which was dispensing proven treatments to ease the epidemic.

From the crowd that had gathered at the Kano Infectious Diseases Hospital, 200 sick children were picked. Half were given doses of the experimental Pfizer drug called Trovan and the others were treated with a proven antibiotic from a rival company.

Eleven of the children died and many more, it is alleged, later suffered serious side-effects ranging from organ failure to brain damage. But with meningitis, cholera and measles still raging and crowds still queueing at the fence of the camp, the Pfizer team packed up after two weeks and left.

That would probably have been an end to the story if it weren't for Pfizer employee, Juan Walterspiel. About 18 months after the medical trial he wrote a letter to the then chief executive of the company, William Steere, saying that the trial had "violated ethical rules". Mr Walterspiel was fired a day later for reasons "unrelated" to the letter, insists Pfizer.
...
At stake at one point last year was more than $8bn in punitive damages being sought in a string of cases, as well as potential jail terms in Nigeria for several Pfizer staff.
...
Trovan never became the blockbuster that Pfizer had hoped for and it is no longer in production. The EU has banned the drug and it has been withdrawn from sale in the US.



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Credit to @Lawrence of Algeria

Johnson & Johnson $2 Billion Lawsuit for Causing Ovarian Cancer with their Talc Powder

Spoiler: Misc. : Video about News Networks' Vaccine Coverage Being Potentially Bias from Vaccine Company & CDC sponsorship

Especially note timestamp 11:08

Silicon Valley

Spoiler

Information Censorship and Recontextualizing: "Vaccine Hesitancy" pushed by Silicon Valley, Facebook algorithm targets vaccine concern posts

Facebook (and Instagram)'s new algorithm targets posts sharing concern about the Covid vaccines (and all vaccines as well), especially posts sharing videos, articles or scientific studies detailing side effects or deaths. The above "Context" blurb is from Youtube. Google is now implementing this blurb under certain videos about Covid vaccination concern. Both conflate the subject with concern about all vaccines. The Youtube info blurb links to a CDC list which is meant to reassure people about taking vaccines--despite one key reassurance being the safety measures taken in years of testing.

Spoiler: Also as an aside

I'll repost this here since the CDC reassurances were brought up:

This is RETARDED. The vast majority of doctors I have ever heard from or spoken to pre-Covid have all warned against getting vaccinated while pregnant specifically because so many things can go wrong so fast and not every person has the same genetics/health, so if you won the genetic lottery of getting a bad reaction to a vaccine, and it's while you're pregnant, it will often lead to horrible consequences. It's also why doctors recommend taking it easy, not doing anything strenuous, taking care not to get sick, being mindful of what you eat, etc. You don't gamble even on 1/1 Million odds while pregnant.

Google linking to this under "Vaccine Hesitancy", and under a video about Covid concern, tacitly implies pregnant women could/should get the Covid vaccine. Mind you, the thing isn't even FDA approved. It's only emergency approved and still experimental. Just look at the new investigation into myocarditis as an adverse effect in kids for an example of how dumb this would be.

It's uber-vax mentality in Silicon Valley with social media. This is why I've re-posted and archived so much, just in case anything happens in the future.

Spoiler: An Aside: Silicon Valley and BigTech runs defense for CCP during Tiananmen Square Massacre Anniversary

SILICON VALLEY & VACCINE PASSPORTS

Archives https://archive.md/pFeeA (another article from April 2021: https://archive.md/UrI2w )
Tech industry giants of Silicon Valley like Microsoft are being deeply involved in the digitization of vaccine passports so their use (and necessity) can be part of everyday life. Other companies are eager for a centralized service of your medical information regarding test results and vaccine record so that you can show it like a QR code, with enough details that someone could see what kind of vaccine you got. All of this is pushed as part of a "necessity" for public health, so we can ride airplanes, go back to school, back to work, etc.

Government

Spoiler

"VAXED OR MASKED"
As of 5/13/2021, the rule from President Biden's own mouth is "Get vaccinated or wear a mask. It's vax-ed or masked."

CDC WARNS OF "IMPENDING DOOM" IN MARCH "as Covid Cases Spike"--THEN SAYS OTHERWISE BY MAY

https://archive.md/YEMRo https://archive.md/gzyUW
Credit to @ShortBusDriver

 

[Exorbital Columnations]

But have you thought of just getting the jab, living in the pod and eating the bugs?

 

[Massa's Little Buckie]

Vaccines are gay and cause autism.

 

[Rusty Crab]

I feel like the mask mandate was called off way too early by their standards.

Hypothesis: they're intentionally dropping the defenses before enough are vaccinated to cause another surge. Then they use that to make it mandatory.

 

[Tortoise Soup]

Derek Lowe, one of your sources about spike proteins:

“So I’ve been getting questions about what this means for vaccination: if we’re causing people to express Spike protein via mRNA or adenovirus vectors, are we damaging them just as if they’d been infected with coronavirus? Fortunately, the answer definitely seems to be “no” – in fact, the pseudovirus paper notes near the end that the antibody response generated by vaccination against the Spike protein will be beneficial in two ways, against infection and against the Spike-mediated endothelial damage as well. There are several reasons why the situation is different.”

Spike Protein Behavior

I've been getting a lot of questions in the last few days about several Spike-protein-related (and vaccine-related) topics, so I thought this would be a good time to go into them. There's been a recent report about the vascular effects of the Spike protein alone (not coronavirus infection per se), a

blogs.sciencemag.org

Shouldn’t this be highlighted as well?

I’m all for having access to as much information as possible. Here’s what myocarditis is:

“Myocarditis is an inflammation of the heart muscle that often occurs after infection with a virus, such as influenza or the novel coronavirus that causes COVID-19. Symptoms can range from mild fatigue and chest pain that resolves on its own to heart rhythm irregularities, cardiac arrest and even death in rare, severe cases. Most cases resolve with no long-term effects, according to a 2020 review in the Journal of Cardiothoracic and Vascular Anesthesia. Males tend to be more commonly affected by myocarditis, according to that study.

About 10 to 22 people per 100,000 — or up to 70,000 people in the U.S. — are diagnosed with viral myocarditis every year, according to the study. However, many cases are so mild that they are never diagnosed, meaning true incidence is likely higher.”

https://www.livescience.com/myocarditis-covid-19-vaccines.html

 

[The Whore of Babylon]

shut up retard

 

[EyelessMC]

Shouldn’t this be highlighted as well?

I linked the article and posted excerpts and counterarguments with it, particularly with his reasons why the situation is different. I didn't have the introductory paragraph but rather his reasoning for it.
Also the OP is a mile long and I already had to put it into spoilers upon spoilers to keep it neat.

I’m all for having access to as much information as possible. Here’s what myocarditis is

I posted what it was from another medical article including how it's diagnosed and how it's treated. As for that study, just reading the introduction/Abstract makes it less than reassuring in this instance, particularly considering we don't officially know what in the vaccine is causing the myocarditis as an adverse reaction in vaccinated youths. It's not like it's being caused by a virus we already know and can treat with precision, hence why the CDC kept mentioning further investigation and follow-ups and informing providers of this issue.

Remember, the S proteins of the vaccine are coded/designed differently than Covid itself. If the cause is the Spike proteins themselves, as the correlation seems to be, then we need further study into the reason why and how the S proteins are doing this and any potential long-term ramifications it could have.

 

[Abracadabra]

I linked the article and posted excerpts and counterarguments with it, particularly with his reasons why the situation is different. I didn't have the introductory paragraph but rather his reasoning for it.
Also the OP is a mile long and I already had to put it into spoilers upon spoilers to keep it neat.


I posted what it was from another medical article including how it's diagnosed and how it's treated. As for that study, just reading the introduction/Abstract makes it less than reassuring in this instance, particularly considering we don't officially know what in the vaccine is causing the myocarditis as an adverse reaction in vaccinated youths. It's not like it's being caused by a virus we already know and can treat with precision, hence why the CDC kept mentioning further investigation and follow-ups and informing providers of this issue.
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Remember, the S proteins of the vaccine are coded/designed differently than Covid itself. If the cause is the Spike proteins themselves, as the correlation seems to be, then we need further study into the reason why and how the S proteins are doing this and any potential long-term ramifications it could have.

Since the S (Spike) protein being used is one and the same, I wouldn’t preclude myocarditis as a possible normal side effect of the vaccine. It still uses the same protein.

The real question is whether or not the degree of myocarditis is a serious concern here, since it’s been observed in some cases of the common flu, and whether or not its incidence is statistically higher after administration of this vaccine.

“Influenza myocarditis is a rare condition associated with influenza virus infection, and the complications of influenza myocarditis are even rarer. Fulminant myocarditis can be a fatal complication with high mortality so there should be increased awareness about influenza myocarditis. High clinical suspicion, especially in times of pandemic and the flu season, followed by early diagnosis and treatment can save lives.”

https://www.cureus.com/articles/46879-influenza-myocarditis-a-literature-review

The best approach is wait and see, but I don’t think it’s something to be overly concerned about at this point.

 

[WeWuzFinns]

If vaccines caused autism, I would order a truck load of them to further enhance mine. With enough autism I could finally doxx that pesky Josh Moon.

 

[Pruto]

Do most people on Kiwi Farms believe that vaccines cause autism like most people on /pol/ do?

 

[Fek]

I appreciate your efforts. Enjoy your newfound attention from nigger cattle coming in here to dismiss you.

 

[Exorbital Columnations]

I appreciate your efforts. Enjoy your newfound attention from nigger cattle coming in here to dismiss you.

I was just trying to help him come to terms with the new, better world we live in.

Do most people on Kiwi Farms believe that vaccines cause autism like most people on /pol/ do?

Depends, have you had all of your shots?

 

[Pruto]

Depends, have you had all of your shots?

What does me getting the shots has to do with the common beliefs of the farms?

 

[Some Badger]

Thanks for concentrating your sources to this thread, OP. Like, unironically. Makes it a lot easier to return to.

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

Anti-vaxxers are surprisingly thin-skinned, must be the additional protection from the tinfoil hat.

E: Heh. I thought someone would take the bait.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Derek Lowe, one of your sources about spike proteins:

“So I’ve been getting questions about what this means for vaccination: if we’re causing people to express Spike protein via mRNA or adenovirus vectors, are we damaging them just as if they’d been infected with coronavirus? Fortunately, the answer definitely seems to be “no” – in fact, the pseudovirus paper notes near the end that the antibody response generated by vaccination against the Spike protein will be beneficial in two ways, against infection and against the Spike-mediated endothelial damage as well. There are several reasons why the situation is different.”

Spike Protein Behavior

I've been getting a lot of questions in the last few days about several Spike-protein-related (and vaccine-related) topics, so I thought this would be a good time to go into them. There's been a recent report about the vascular effects of the Spike protein alone (not coronavirus infection per se), a

blogs.sciencemag.org

Shouldn’t this be highlighted as well?

No because OP is an anti-vax schizo who likes to post about how the vaccine is dangerous so he cherry picks articles and information and leaves out the conclusions (which debunk his entire point). If you point this out, he will just get seething mad and call you a troll without addressing your point

 

[Forever Sunrise]

Excellent set of resources. Thank you very much.

 

[Some Badger]

No because OP is an anti-vax schizo who likes to post about how the vaccine is dangerous so he cherry picks articles and information and leaves out the conclusions (which debunk his entire point).

Hey Terry, what do Fauci's boots taste like?

 

[knobslobbin]

Look we should be encouraging as many left leaning people as we know to get the vax. Please don't confuse them with any wrongthink, it upsets their programming.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Hey Terry, what do Fauci's boots taste like?

Hello, newfag! Why did you decide to register here? And more importantly, why do you trust delusional schizo retards like OP over actual scientists and doctors?

Oh, and