CPS strike: Teachers and support staff, along with parks workers, will all strike on Oct. 17 if no contract deals reached -

Chicago

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I'm a bit worried about how bad they must have raided the PERS cookiejar to be needing the taxpayer's money (isn't that illegal) to pay for their retirement.
Cool, more terms to be aware of thanks.

Typed in "PERS" and just snooping around on the results i.e.

"Members eligible for the alternative formula may retire at age 50 with 25 years of service, or at age 55 with 20 years of service. In order to receive any benefit, you must apply for it and provide proof of age. All benefit claims should be made to the Claims Division."

Pretty obvious state funded pensions are ponzi schemes. Not to give too much about myself away but I have assets stashed away for the future. However I have $0 in state funded pension scams. You all can snoop around reddit to see commenters (at least from past years) think this is a circus.

October 17 is coming soon...tick tock. Might have to write a fictional story to entertain you all here.
 

saralovesjuicyfruit

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I mean if they aren't getting paid enough they have a right-to-strike.
Median salary for teachers in Chicago was $78,910 as of June 2016. In 2016, the median household income across all of Chicago was $53,006. They earn nearly 150% of the median household income for the whole city. They also threaten to strike almost every year.

Sources: https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20160916/edison-park/what-are-chicago-teachers-actually-paid-crunching-numbers/


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frozenrunner

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USA has been right-to-work nationally since SCOTUS Janus decision. Not sure what you're talking about.
I did not know that, and neither did the people I was referring to, apparently. Unfortunately, you can still be forced to join a union in some states for some jobs. I would not call that "right to work."

Good, though. Fuck paying union dues when you're not in the union.
 

rocknrollmartian

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Why do those who produce the worst results believe they deserve more benefits or pay? And what happens if their demands are refused? Chicago kids will no longer be taught how use word good, and instead be given lessons in Paleolithic fingerpainting?
It's mostly a demand for hazard pay, I imagine. These kids aren't learning, but it's not for lack of trying. Title 1 schools in Chicago and around the country are a wreck. Many of the kids are English language learners. Teachers are now not supposed to discipline kids and instead are told to use "restorative justice," build relationships, use "positive behavior intervention and support." Everything is considered racist or biased against the kids, and schools in Seattle are now trying to push "woke math" where actual math isn't taught since it might traumatize brown children. Teachers are told to push kids through who can't even read; many schools won't give zeros for assignments now, either--the lowest grade anyone receives is 50%. Terrible, violent kids often can't even be suspended or expelled. Diversity and cultural responsiveness training are somehow supposed to solve everything but provide no real plans of action. Absenteeism/truancy rates are sky-high while the parents don't do shit. It's not a teacher's job to tuck these kids in at night after feeding them a nutritious dinner and helping them with their homework. These kids will continue to fail as long as liberals hold them to low expectations and the parents are disengaged.

Anyone who's working as a teacher in Chicago proper should do herself a favor and find a job in the burbs if at all possible, but those jobs are highly competitive. Look at the difference in test scores between, say, Winnetka and inner-city Chicago. Obviously there's a fucking lot more going on than "bad teachers." Bad parents, bad school administration, bad system.
 
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Super-Chevy454

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Anyone who's working as a teacher in Chicago proper should do herself a favor and find a job in the burbs if at all possible, but those jobs are highly competitive. Look at the difference in test scores between, say, Winnetka and inner-city Chicago. Obviously there's a fucking lot more going on than "bad teachers." Bad parents, bad school administration, bad system.
Find a job in the burbs or even a step further, much far away from Chicagoland.
 

Still Anonymous For This

I've never even been to Vienna.
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I can see it from both angles: teaching in today's world has got to be one of the most stressful jobs I can imagine. Not being able to discipline shitty kids and every single one of your actions being put under a microscope. Misgender a kid on accident? Fired. Put a kid in timeout? Fired. Whore yourself out to sugar daddies? That one is actually okay.

But at the same time, it isn't like these stressors for this job are kept secret or anything. If you get into teaching these days, you know damn well what you're getting yourself into. This is 2019: if you start a career with a rosy-red outlook when you have the resources available to find out how much of a shit show its going to be, that's on you. I do feel for the teachers who are close to retirement, tho.
 

rocknrollmartian

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I can see it from both angles: teaching in today's world has got to be one of the most stressful jobs I can imagine. Not being able to discipline shitty kids and every single one of your actions being put under a microscope. Misgender a kid on accident? Fired. Put a kid in timeout? Fired. Whore yourself out to sugar daddies? That one is actually okay.

But at the same time, it isn't like these stressors for this job are kept secret or anything. If you get into teaching these days, you know damn well what you're getting yourself into. This is 2019: if you start a career with a rosy-red outlook when you have the resources available to find out how much of a shit show its going to be, that's on you. I do feel for the teachers who are close to retirement, tho.
Some teachers are too naive and optimistic, but others are too far to the pessimistic side where they think every other job is a piece of cake in comparison to teaching. I had a teacher tell me with a straight face that's he leaving to become an MD because he hates paperwork and bureaucracy and teaching is "too draining." When I suggested that doctors have to work year-round, are often on-call, and deal with plenty of stress and red tape along with far more liability, he looked at me like I had three heads.

Regardless, unless we end compulsory education altogether, we're going to need teachers. I can't really get behind "no one should do this shitty job, but if you choose to, suck it up, cupcake." That's not realistic. Something needs to change, but people keep suggesting bullshit that doesn't work for unmotivated, illiterate kids and won't address obvious problems for fear of being labeled racist or classist. If parents are absent or checked out, their kids are fucked. Teachers are not surrogate parents. Kids are going to keep failing if school is the only place where they have any semblance of structure or "social emotional learning" (another thing teachers are supposed to provide these days--a geometry teacher is not a therapist or trauma specialist!).
 
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Maggots on a Train v2

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They should make isolated military schools for all the kids that can't behave or learn anything, and cut off the parents' gibs when a kid gets sent to one. Watch how quickly values shift after "shit yourself and do absolutely nothing" is no longer a viable path to get everything you need for free.
 

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So far no news from CTU "gimms me more dats" reaching an agreement with Chiraq city.

They should make isolated military schools for all the kids that can't behave or learn anything, and cut off the parents' gibs when a kid gets sent to one. Watch how quickly values shift after "shit yourself and do absolutely nothing" is no longer a viable path to get everything you need for free.
A buddy of mine said that once Trump gets elected Chicago will be militarized and Rahm Emmanuel (former mayor) would be replaced with a fed.

It never happened and militarizing Chicago would be a very slight upgrade over what we have now.
 

Belligerent Monk

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They're doing it wrong.
If you're all about getting your demands met and don't care too much about public perception of your organization then you need to convince the public transportation agencies to go in with you on the strike.

It certainly worked here in the SF bay area when commuter train operators striked. Couple hundred thousand work commuters and their employers basically held hostage and unable to earn a living until the strike was over.
 
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