Off-Topic Critical Discussion of Trannies and Pedophilia -

[SourDiesel]

Oh good, a soap box where I can posit my theory on the comorbidities of troonery, pedophilia, and being a dumb fuck! I've mentioned it previously in the megathread and in the reddit trans community thread, but this seems like a good place to duke it out for real without derailing shit.

There is a correlation between low IQ and pedophilia (1), and paraphilias such as pedophilia and transvestic disorder often cluster (2). Therefore by the trannysitive property there is a correlation between low IQ and troonery. Troons are also often autistic, and that leads to one of my favorite quotes ever (3):




So, do we know/think JY is autistic? It could explain his low effort troonery (and definitely explains CWCs) but I'm leaning towards thinking he's just a walking freak show.

Spoiler: sources

1 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/17634757/
2 https://www.merckmanuals.com/home/m...rview-of-paraphilias-and-paraphilic-disorders
3 https://www.forbes.com/sites/zhanav...a-and-autism-spectrum-disorders/#5abc6b99153e
Archive of 3 (journals blocked archive tools)

I admire your tenacity in attempting to organize and catalogue the various degenerecies at play here and examine their interactions. I think you're entirely correct in your conclusion that troons have low IQs but I think that each troon is a unique snowflake in levels of each element at play. Like how you can have many pikachus, but each one will have different hidden stats.

Seriously though isn't it well known that autistic people are unusually prone to getting sucked into trans nonsense? Pedophiles have low IQs which gives them something in common with autistics who have such black and white thinking that they frequently think they're they're trans if they crossdress and crossdressing is a major paraphilia which brings us full circle back to the pedophiles. It's an ouroboros of degeneracy.

 

[NP 901]

Seriously though isn't it well known that autistic people are unusually prone to getting sucked into trans nonsense?

Yes, to the point where troonery is considered a diagnostic red flag to test for autism. That last link I posted has stats at the bottom. Generally trans people have ~10x the rate of autism relative to the general population, and up to 1/10 trans identified men are autistic.

It’s hilarious when you contrast it with baron-cohens (yes, sasha baron-cohen’s cousin) theory of the extreme male brain of autism. But more importantly, these men who struggle to assimilate with a society they do not understand, who do not display characteristic male traits such as bravado and athletic acumen, find solace in mimicry of women who are generally nicer to them and also are the objects of their desire. And thus an autogynephiliac is readily born. If they weren’t so repulsive it would be a little tragic.

 

[💗Bitchstopher Columbitch💗]

Does autopedophilia count as pedophilia?

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The most salient dimension of men’s sexual orientation is gender: attraction to males versus females. A second dimension is sexual maturity: attraction to children versus adults. A less appreciated dimension is location: attraction to other individuals versus the sexual fantasy of being one of those individuals. Men sexually aroused by the idea or fantasy of being the kinds of individuals to whom they are sexually attracted have an erotic-target identity inversion (ETII). We conducted an online survey to investigate the prevalence and phenomenology of ETIIs among 475 men sexually attracted to children. Autopedophilia, or sexual arousal by the idea of being a child, was common. Furthermore, autopedophilic men tended to be sexually aroused by imagining themselves as the kinds of children (with respect to gender and age) to whom they are sexually attracted. Results support the concept of ETIIs and exemplify the simultaneous importance of three dimensions of male sexual orientation.

 

[SourDiesel]

Yes, to the point where troonery is considered a diagnostic red flag to test for autism. That last link I posted has stats at the bottom. Generally trans people have ~10x the rate of autism relative to the general population, and up to 1/10 trans identified men are autistic.

It’s hilarious when you contrast it with baron-cohens (yes, sasha baron-cohen’s cousin) theory of the extreme male brain of autism. But more importantly, these men who struggle to assimilate with a society they do not understand, who do not display characteristic male traits such as bravado and athletic acumen, find solace in mimicry of women who are generally nicer to them and also are the objects of their desire. And thus an autogynephiliac is readily born.

Honestly I didn't realize the numbers were quite that high. My initial reaction is to say how fucking predatory the trans community is on so many levels because some of these guys are just genuinely stupid and got sucked into a cult. I can't feel bad for long though because I know for every autist that would be innocent except for falling into this bullshit, there are ten more who are both autistic AND dangerous. Like our boy Yaniv here, for example.

 

[imperial]

Are we actually having a debate on whether male or female pedophiles are worse? So some teenage kids gets coerced into sex by their teacher, which happens all the time with varying levels of regret. I'm not saying this is okay at all, but many of these cases are consensual whether male or female even if they're legally unable to consent. But as for actual sexual assault and grooming of children, especially young children, or just plain rape in general you'd have to be an absolute ass to say that "women are just as bad!" because even if they could be it's just not possible.

 

[💗Bitchstopher Columbitch💗]

Are we actually having a debate on whether male or female pedophiles are worse? So some teenage kids gets coerced into sex by their teacher, which happens all the time with varying levels of regret. I'm not saying this is okay at all, but many of these cases are consensual whether male or female even if they're legally unable to consent. But as for actual sexual assault and grooming of children, especially young children, or just plain rape in general you'd have to be an absolute ass to say that "women are just as bad!" because even if they could be it's just not possible.

Because they don't have a penis? There's strap-ons.

 

[LU 010]

Because they don't have a penis? There's strap-ons.

There's also rape with objects, which frequently causes injury (depending on the object) and don't underestimate the pain and damage that can be done with a fist.

 

[imperial]

Because they don't have a penis? There's strap-ons.

Yeah and you can also get an erection even when you're raped, it doesn't mean either of these things happen frequently enough to be that comparable

 

[TaimuRadiu]

In all my time online I've noticed something seriously wrong and it seems that all tranners (hip new slang from /tttt/) seem to have been molested as children, and according to a small racist bodybuilding forum most seem to have had narcissistic mothers. I don't know if homosexual recruitment is real or not, but I do know that the "elites" seem to want children to troon out at earlier and earlier ages. Whether this means pizzagate is real and (((they))) are putting chemicals in the water to make the children gay I don't know, but I do know that humans have freewill and we can very easily use our freewill to not creep on little kids.

That being said I'm sure there are tranners who are actually TRUE and HONEST wamman and not pushed on by whatever the trickle down media whores think is the flavor of the week mental illness (desmondisamazing one week, ADHD another, the TRENCHCOAT MAFIA still another) I mean, statistically speaking that's gotta be possible, right? Right?

 

[NP 901]

That being said I'm sure there are tranners who are actually TRUE and HONEST wamman and not pushed on by whatever the trickle down media whores think is the flavor of the week mental illness (desmondisamazing one week, ADHD another, the TRENCHCOAT MAFIA still another) I mean, statistically speaking that's gotta be possible, right? Right?

Well that was quite the ride but I’ll address your last part.

If he’s MTF and into cock, he’s just a pathetic homophobic homo or a homo who is into straight men.

If he’s MTF and into pussy, he’s a fetishist. Most of these try to pretend they belong to the former group. But they are on average more sexually deviant and exhibit other paraphilias such as pedophelia, autopedophelia, period fetish, etc.

Psychologists Dr Ray Blanchard and Anne Lawrence (a troon btw) write about troons a lot and that’s basically the distilled version - gay trannies and “””lesbian””” troons (heterosexual men) are two very distinct subsets of transsexuality.

 

[Aviva's Biotech-Breakdown]

trannysitive

It’s hilarious when you contrast it with baron-cohens (yes, sasha baron-cohen’s cousin) theory of the extreme male brain of autism.

And sorry, this analysis was spot on but I'm pretty sure it's his brother Simon Baron-Cohen? Either way, I will be bookmarking those studies for morning coffee.

 

[NP 901]

I was just looking up some of Ray Blanchard’s papers to post in here for the nerd kiwis, but I got derailed by this paper on furries lmao

Furry Sexuality: Conditioned Fetishes a Better Explanation than Erotic Target Identity Inversion

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“Erotic target identity inversion” or “erotic target location error”, by the way, is an excellent term to use when you are looking into deviancy that is directed onto the self such as autopedophilia, autoacrotomophilia,
and auyogynephilia (to love yourself as a child, to love yourself as an amputee, and to love yourself as a women)

Anyways, here’s Blanchard’s early work where he discovered discrete differences between transsexuals and troons:

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And a history of autogynephilia in literature:

Early History of the Concept of Autogynephilia

Since the beginning of the last century, clinical observers have described the propensity of certain males to be erotically aroused by the thought or image of themselves as women. Because there was no specific term to denote this phenomenon, clinicians’ references to it were generally oblique or...

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[troon patrol]

Narcissim+feminity+autism=trangerism. I solved it, where's my fucking Nobel prize?

 

[Jaimas]

The rise of Troonism and its comorbidity with obscene sexual deviancy is an odd beast, but I can break it down pretty simply, if you'd like.

The reason so many people adopt Troonism these days is that it's a zero-effort way to not only avoid responsibility for your actions, but that it makes you fundamentally impervious to criticism on Social Media. For people like Yaniv, this is a big appeal, since it covers up any impropriety you've been caught in in the past. This is when they aren't just doing it to indulge their sick fuckery, like say, Zinnia Jones.

And make no mistake: this appeal is fucking ridiculous in the sheer level of asshattery it permits you to conduct on Social Media. For all intents and purposes, you can do no wrong if you claim to be trans, with only the most toxic and insane Troon activists ever getting meaningfully sanctioned by the establishment. You can flat-out assault people, get arrested and even fined, and the Social Media platforms will happily tamp down on the people you assaulted for daring to criticize you.

Even if you manage to be the rare asshole who is such a pain in the ass that even Twitter decides you're persona non grata, however, even the most toxic troon activist virtually never gets outright banned - often eating temporary suspensions at the most. It's only when they escalate to the level of being an active hindrance to the cause that any attempt is made to rein them in via shadowbans and throttling. When you have this kind of fucking idiocy on this scale, people are going to see it and realize the obvious. Criminal record? Sex offender? No problem, assume a new identity and resume doing what you were already doing, declaring anyone who brings up your history is Deadnaming you, which is a ban-worthy trespass on most platforms.

So that explains why Troonism is such a widespread thing now, but what's with the pedophilia thing?
NAMBLA was always shot to pieces by the gay rights movement, so why the fuck is this so nascent in modern parlance?

The answer is complicated, and I could get into the details - for fucking pages - about how this is actually a part of extremist left ideology, but for now, all you need to do is focus on the LGBT movement as a political group. Over the last few years, as identity politics became more prevalent, Troons managed to finegle their way into being the top of the oppression pyramid, and have brought with it the ideological belief that ultimate freedom - namely the right to fuck absolutely everything - is their raison d'etre.

This is the reason they cry transphobia over anyone who won't fuck them, regardless of reason, and in turn, why there's so many insane sexual deviants now among their number. While they'll claim it to be otherwise, the LGBT community may as well be the T community now, as Lesbians and Bisexual people are seen as transphobes and gays are seen as insufficiently oppressed.

 

[NP 901]

The reason so many people adopt Troonism these days is that it's a zero-effort way to not only avoid responsibility for your actions, but that it makes you fundamentally impervious to criticism on Social Media.

Your theory of troonery is incomplete. You forgot the retards who are so addicted to lesbian porn that they want to become the lesbian.

I’m not saying lesbian porn is bad or turns every man into a troon. I’m saying some dip shits can’t handle it and become addicted and they become an IRL fuck up. That’s why the straight male troons want so badly to pretend it isn’t a fetish. It’s pathetic, low willpower, and fucking embarrassing.

 

[Jaimas]

Your theory of troonery is incomplete. You forgot the exceptional individuals who are so addicted to lesbian porn that they want to become the lesbian.

I’m not saying lesbian porn is bad or turns every man into a troon. I’m saying some dip shits can’t handle it and become addicted and they become an IRL fuck up. That’s why the straight male troons want so badly to pretend it isn’t a fetish. It’s pathetic, low willpower, and fucking embarrassing.

Well, those people sort of speak for themselves, and more often than not, aren't the psychopathic trans activists we cover on this site. Some are, and those usually have threads here (Hi, Jake!), but it's invariably the power-hungry shitheads, the insane sexual deviants who want their bizarre sexual pathology normalized, and the dipshits who are trying desperately to escape culpability for their own actions that come to define troons as we know them.

 

[Otterly]

Anyways, we aren't here dealing with a transgender person or a matter of trans rights.

We are though. Because there’s no gatekeeping. If you say you’re trans, you’re trans. You can’t be questioned. You can’t be criticised. So there’s no way to differentiate between someone who is trans and law abiding and someone like yaniv.
And that brings us right back to the same reason we exclude men from women’s toilets. Most men are fine. Some men are not. We can’t tell, so they ALL stay out.
It’s irrelevant if some trans women are great. They’re all men, so they’re all excluded from women’s loos. Except now they’re not, so all toilets are now mixed sex. Which is a predator’s wetdream.

You can’t argue for admission because some trans women are nice. MOST men are nice, but we still don’t want them in women and girls’ spaces.

 

[nekrataal]

There's also rape with objects, which frequently causes injury (depending on the object) and don't underestimate the pain and damage that can be done with a fist.

There’s a reason fist-shaped dildos exist after all.

 

[TaimuRadiu]

Well that was quite the ride but I’ll address your last part.

If he’s MTF and into cock, he’s just a pathetic homophobic homo or a homo who is into straight men.

If he’s MTF and into pussy, he’s a fetishist. Most of these try to pretend they belong to the former group. But they are on average more sexually deviant and exhibit other paraphilias such as pedophelia, autopedophelia, period fetish, etc.

Psychologists Dr Ray Blanchard and Anne Lawrence (a troon btw) write about troons a lot and that’s basically the distilled version - gay trannies and “””lesbian””” troons (heterosexual men) are two very distinct subsets of transsexuality.

Do we have any data regarding f2ms, or is it all just loud and proud m2fs we have data for? Evidence brought up by courageous troonologists across the web seem to indicate they too are fetishists, at least the current crop are being uwu softbois (possibly beyond the scope of this thread on the JY subforum?)

 

[CC 855]

Do we have any data regarding f2ms, or is it all just loud and proud m2fs we have data for? Evidence brought up by courageous troonologists across the web seem to indicate they too are fetishists, at least the current crop are being uwu softbois (possibly beyond the scope of this thread on the JY subforum?)

Blanchard's typology is not comprehensive. It only covers MTF transsexuals.