Culture Wars General - KiA Diet Coke Edition

Marissa Moira

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I haven't seen a single shot of her that wasn't fat faced. So I'm not sure I believe the angle excuse anymore.
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elzaw

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anyway, David Cage is getting canceled again. Source is someone's translation from reeeesetra, totally a verified unbiased source. I posted only the relevant paragraphs, but tl;dr Quantic does seem like a shady company abusing their employees (just like every other AAA studio), but ofc the woketards are only focusing on sjw shit and Cage's supposed homophobic comments (source?)
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The funny thing is, all Cage's wahmen are boring androgynous twigs, I don't know why they act like his games are some controversial artsy porn when the most basic Japanese VN has more spice than the "rape" scene from Heavy Rain.

"We don't make games for fags"
Explain Beyond then.

edit: "All women in my games are whores"
The women:
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Brain Problems

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anyway, David Cage is getting canceled again. Source is someone's translation from reeeesetra, totally a verified unbiased source. I posted only the relevant paragraphs, but tl;dr Quantic does seem like a shady company abusing their employees (just like every other AAA studio), but ofc the woketards are only focusing on sjw shit and Cage's supposed homophobic comments (source?)
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The funny thing is, all Cage's wahmen are boring androgynous twigs, I don't know why they act like his games are some controversial artsy porn when the most basic Japanese VN has more spice than the "rape" scene from Heavy Rain.

"We don't make games for fags"
Explain Beyond then.
I don't like Cage or his games but between REEEEEEEsetera and the lack of primary source material that we can judge for ourselves this means nothing to me. In a world where an okay hand symbol and Pepe and MAGA is considered alt-right nazi, all claims are suspect.

Also that last paragraph is pretty based.
 

Dom Cruise

I'll fucking Mega your ass, bitch!
True & Honest Fan
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I do miss the days when old Lara Croft, Cate Archer and Rayne used to be the industry norm on the topic of vidya female characters in the west
I miss that like you wouldn't believe, it's complete fucking bullshit that we can't have female characters like that in western games anymore.

Lara Croft was the only one who had good games in her series.

Bloodrayne hardly anyone remembers and for good reason. Turok has a more favorable standing.
The NOLF games are great.

Senua, an autistic female Viking:
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Aloy, the donut hunter:
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I haven't played the game yet but Senua is acceptable, she's kind of odd looking but she at least looks like she belongs in her world, fat faced Aloy meanwhile looks completely out of place.

It's ironic because I thought Aloy in the first game was meh looking, but she looks great compared to the sequel, the more time goes on, the uglier female characters in western games get, enough is fucking enough.

The funny thing is, all Cage's wahmen are boring androgynous twigs, I don't know why they act like his games are some controversial artsy porn when the most basic Japanese VN has more spice than the "rape" scene from Heavy Rain.
The police detective woman in Indigo Prophecy was hot and not an "androgynous twig"
 

Marissa Moira

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It's ironic because I thought Aloy in the first game was meh looking, but she looks great compared to the sequel, the more time goes on, the uglier female characters in western games get, enough is fucking enough.
I dunno dude Soulsborne series was built on everyone in the game looking like a potato. The lack of appealing females didn't hurt it none.

The best Mass Effect (the first one) was also the one where you couldn't make a convincing female Shepard.
 

Corn Flakes

Battle Creek's Finest
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I dunno dude Soulsborne series was built on everyone in the game looking like a potato. The lack of appealing females didn't hurt it none.
That alone tells me you haven't played the games and are likely not very familiar with them. Every Soulsborne game has at least one appealing female character (cue all the "amazing chest ahead" jokes). The player characters can be made to look alright, but the general gist of it is that you're supposed to be in armor or wearing a hood anyway, so the female NPCs at least look interesting.
 

Marissa Moira

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That alone tells me you haven't played the games and are likely not very familiar with them. Every Soulsborne game has at least one appealing female character (cue all the "amazing chest ahead" jokes). The player characters can be made to look alright, but the general gist of it is that you're supposed to be in armor or wearing a hood anyway, so the female NPCs at least look interesting.
The character creator is what was used to make most of the NPCs for most of the games outside of specific boss characters and Sekiro are exception to this. All the NPC preset phantoms were made this way as well.

But if all it takes is basically sticking a paper bag over a butterface, that's something that most games can easily accomplish. At that point you've probably achieved balance with the solution, you can make the character look cool with armor and the face can look like a Rothschild.
 

Dom Cruise

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This art looks pretty dope
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Yup, there's the part where she walks around her apartment in tiny panties and a tank top.

In the uncut version of the game the black detective's girlfriend performs a strip show for him and it actually shows her nude (albeit briefly)
 

Borax Bozo

Here until I can finally rest.
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Yup, there's the part where she walks around her apartment in tiny panties and a tank top.

In the uncut version of the game the black detective's girlfriend performs a strip show for him and it actually shows her nude (albeit briefly)
Forget the strip show, isn't there a full interactive sex scene in that game?
 

Marissa Moira

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He's called David Cage because he's a Caged beast.

Better, but still looks fat to me. Especially when I look at her twigs she calls arms.

And I'm judging this based one everyone I've ever met, by the way, since we're going for realism.
Well like I said her manish features are more or less the result of the limitations of the technology in their strive towards realism.

Facial mocap requires you to wear a helmet with a rig attached that has a camera in front of you looking at your face. The general rule of thumb is that you point the camera down at a face for more feminine features, and you point the camera up for mannish ones. It will always have an effect on the final outcome of the face once everything is combined into the final hero rig and the geometry is attached.

The problem with pointing the camera down is that for a hero character it can also give you less exact data for certain facial movements since they're going to be way more prominent and have the most actions out of any other character. Side characters or NPCs it doesn't matter as much since less is intended from them. So either by accident or intention they had the camera look up at Aloy's mocap actress, thereby giving her more masculine features. If you've ever looked at how a funhouse mirror distorts your image, it's a similar concept.

So yeah having an ugly girl in a game isn't really at the whim of some feminist designer, it's how the machines compile data. That data then plays a part in the anatomy of the face, because they're gunning for realistic movement and gestures. So since the data is already warped, the end result shall be warped as well.
 
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elzaw

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Okay, I'm still waiting for proof if Cage is a Joss Whedon situation where he actually was being a creep behind the scenes, or if he's just an incompetent moron like Druckmann.

So far people've been freaking out over the mediocre memes and his underwear fetish. Not exactly a crime.
 

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