Gross Danny Dannels of Mentality Nail Polish -

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I'm gonna start this out by saying I don't know shit about nail polish, or most cosmetics. I have always been a bit more butch. I found out about this clusterfuck through friends of mine who are part of a niche in the cosmetics community, specifically in regards to indie nail polish. And in the indie nail polish scene right now, some shit is going down.

Mentality Nail Polish is an independent brand of nail polish owned by a man named Danny Dannels, a libertarian small businessman. There's a particular line of Mentality polish that was (until recently at least), their most popular, according to some people I've talked to; that'd be their Neon collection:

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As it turns out, quite a few Mentality customers have been experiencing what Dannels has called "sensitivity" to their product. And by "sensitivity," we mean onycholysis.

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Now, as I said before, I don't know shit about nail polish, but according to comments on The Mercurial Magpie blog (which I recommend reading, it contains probably the most thorough account of what's been happening), it seems like you'd really have to fuck up bad to pull that off:

This is also just speculation at this point, but many other brands think that Mentality blaming the base is just using Arminex as a scapegoat (and thus why they are not turning to them to make them whole financially). I’m not sure if the brands want to be tied to their suspicions publicly so I won’t list their names here but I’m thinking it’s likely not just the base alone.

Comment #1 – It’s possible it was the neon pigment that is the culprit, not the base. Some illegal pigments can react and produce copious amounts of formaldehyde. Someone said that they work in a lab or something and got formaldehyde on their skin and it turned brown like some of the nail photos are showing. That sounds pretty reasonable to me, especially since people are saying the polishes smell really bad.

Comment #2 – Ok this Arminex base? no maker i know of had heard of it in july. I dont think Arminex makes it; they import it? There were 2 base companies left in 2012, a third opened later that year due to demand and it’s out somewhere further inland in CA, wonder beautys base. I guess I need to hunt around and ask. so they pretend like its a common name among indies; its not at all. the biggest indies I know of hadnt heard of it.

A cosmetic chemist weighed in, and it looks like Dannels has some rather unorthodox methods of production:

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Did I mention the fucking mainstream media (well, Cosmo, at least) is getting in on this shit?

So, with a bunch of women, including cosmetics bloggers who make their living off of showing pictures of their painted nails, rightfully pissed at Mentality, how does Dannels respond to this crisis?

The answer is "whine about how hard this crisis is for you."

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And then stop giving out refunds.

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And then have a 50% off sale on the very product that caused all this shit in the first place!

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And then deny somebody's Paypal claim on the basis of suspicion of "internet bullying":

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Oh, and they did finally issue an official recall for the polish... three hours ago. He's still blaming the arminex base, of course, even though he got a C&D from the company to stop blaming them for his fuck-up.
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They had to "fire" their bloggers first, though. These unpaid bloggers.

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The Mercurial Magpie's post was originally published on August 21st, and complaints about the nail damage go back even further. In fact, shortly before this drama initially started, Dannels decided to file his company as a corporation back in June, possibly to avoid lawsuits:
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And Dannels himself? Apparently the company was founded by his wife, who may have left him, but his business address is in a trailer park, and he also has six kids. And the scale of his production would probably require multiple barrels of flammable chemicals.

And he writes shit like this:

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And a sample from his Twitter:

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TL;DR lolbertarian crazy man cooks up batch of nail polish that peels off people's finger nails, attempts to blame everything and everyone but himself, ice skates with Obama.
 
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Gosh golly what a shit storm.
Also, isn't this why they test cosmetitic products on humans (or animals if you're a dick and want to save money) first? I don't know much about shit like this but doesn't it have to be approved first or is this just a private thing were they can get away with shady business practices?
 

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So many "Libertarians" are like this. Not wanting to be held accountable for their actions despite wanting a "free" society
I was thinking the same thing, guys like Mr. Daniels scream about wanting people to take "personal accountability!!! Pull yourself up by your bootstraps!!!".

Then when shit hits the fan they blame the failure of their business on everyone but their own incompetence. Also, he inherited the company from his ex-wife rather than the "from the ground up" as CWC would say.
 

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Yay nails!! I am not a nail tech but I am actually studying to be one. This is absolutely psychotic. What blows my mind right off is that anyone would want a "remake" of a formula that is demonstrably doing so much damage. Onycholysis is separation of the layers of keratin in your nail plate and is really serious shit. It will take a dermatologist to fix, and probably will need removal of the nail plate, after which there is a long waiting period while it regrows.

The first thing I'd want to do is see the Material Safety Data Sheets (MSDS) on Arminex base. He would have to had put those on file to the public by law. Then we can go from there.

UPDATE! Arminex International is a company that is spitting distance from our place. It manufactures 'natural' bases for nail polish and in fact has its own nailpolish line. If people deem it worthy I'm happy to investigate further.

Update 2: Mentality now has reported per Mercurial Magpie that they are 20-30K upside-down due to the number of returns, and have no product liability insurance. Say bye-bye soon no doubt.
 
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I was gonna say this seemed less a lolcow and more just an extremely inept and inconsiderate company... but the guy seems like a genuine nut.

The Tweets and the blog appear old, though, so the only thing I'm worried about is if we're trying to milk a carcass.
 
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So many "Libertarians" are like this. Not wanting to be held accountable for their actions despite wanting a "free" society
THIS. Fucking THIS. It seems like libertarians gravitate to small business ownership, but it is rare that they offer strong customer service. It is like their "go fuck yourself" mentality propels them to go into business because no level-headed entrepreneur will deal with their shit.

I hope this guy knows that he will be held personally liable for transactions that occurred prior to incorporation.

EDIT: This sort of made me think of Chris if he sold nail polish. At least Chris is smart enough to know his limitations.
 

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So many "Libertarians" are like this. Not wanting to be held accountable for their actions despite wanting a "free" society
It's extremely common for the short-sighted to admire the cutthroat, take-no-prisoners attitude often prevalent in "free market" ideology.
Right up until the point where they're on the receiving end of the "cutthroat" bit.
 

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I have actually had my nail fall off before, it was half ripped off in an accident involving a door and it fell off in a week or two. It took many months to regrow and for several years after it still looked a little wonky.
So the people who used the nail polish and had fucked up nails that fell off or will fall off can sue the shit off this guy I'd imagine because that's personal injury caused by a product.
 

Do You Realize

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OK this could get good. The corporate and international shipping address, as well as apparently the manufacturing/bottling site (found a Chinese shipment bill of export) is a *manufactured home* (dingdingding!) in Hemet, CA which is deep in the heart of hick-stickville, trust me.

But yes, the entire office and manufacturing/bottling facility of this product is a trailer park. This might be worthy after all. I can totally see libertarian wacko potential, Hemet would be the place.
 

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OK this could get good. The corporate and international shipping address, as well as apparently the manufacturing/bottling site (found a Chinese shipment bill of export) is a *manufactured home* (dingdingding!) in Hemet, CA which is deep in the heart of hick-stickville, trust me.

But yes, the entire office and manufacturing/bottling facility of this product is a trailer park. This might be worthy after all. I can totally see libertarian wacko potential, Hemet would be the place.

Kind of why I made the thread. Friend of mine told me about it, I saw potential.

The whole thing about people not knowing the whereabouts of his wife also intrigued me.
 

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The whole thing about people not knowing the whereabouts of his wife also intrigued me.

Spoilers: The formula is people.

On another, more nail-spergy note... holy damn. I thought the "worst" thing that a bad nail polish could cause was discoloration. At least in those cases it's just a color-change and could be slightly fixed with some buffing and a slice of lemon.
But this... :'(
 

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TL;DR lolbertarian crazy man cooks up batch of nail polish that peels off people's finger nails, attempts to blame everything and everyone but himself, ice skates with Obama.

Sounds like the Amy's Baking Company of nail polish. Who knew there was so much to this stuff?

Note: many lolbertarians treat all rules and regulations as if they're just something put there by evil parent figures to harsh their buzz, rather than that there might actually be reasons to promulgate rules like "don't put formaldehyde in nail polish." Or whatever this dude did.

Great OP. If this guy keeps chimping as hard as he is now, he will probably be a basement-dwelling cow before long.

I just have to put this quote in actual text.

Mentality Cosmetics continues to operate as normal. Orders are processing and remakes are shipping under high demand. Shipping notifications are being sent continuously, it is just that from now on, you have to get Mentality from me, I am where Mentality has always come from. I am Mentality. I am an athlete. I am a scholar. I am a musician. I am an artist and a maker, I am also a fighter.

Questionable OCR lazily semi-corrected.

I read this as basically the entire operation has shut down and is now one crazy dumbass putting together deranged concoctions in his mom's basement. Don't buy them unless you want your fingers to turn black and fall off, replaced by hideous escharotic scars.
 
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I'm not into makeup but I do like doing my nails. I don't get much opportunity to do so because my work/job is hell on nail polish so I usually paint my nails when I have days off or am on vacation. The worst that ever happened to me was one polish turned my nails yellow but that grew out. These pictures... holy shit.
 

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THIS. Fucking THIS. It seems like libertarians gravitate to small business ownership, but it is rare that they offer strong customer service. It is like their "go fuck yourself" mentality propels them to go into business because no level-headed entrepreneur will deal with their shit.

I hope this guy knows that he will be held personally liable for transactions that occurred prior to incorporation.

EDIT: This sort of made me think of Chris if he sold nail polish. At least Chris is smart enough to know his limitations.

"But nobody would do this, it isn't in their rational self interest"

How many times I've heard people in certain circles (Especially the crypto and darknet drugs communities) say this as their money is gone, gone, gone and assuring themselves the guy didn't just take the money and run and send them a bunch of random chemicals or nothing at all, in Liberland is fucking amazing. The fact that this guy is doing the exact same thing (Deny, deflect, and then double down) the other "captains of industry" have done when they got caught with their pants down surprises me exactly 0%.

Most libertarians can be summed up as so in my experience "Fuck you, got mine"
 

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"But nobody would do this, it isn't in their rational self interest"

How many times I've heard people in certain circles (Especially the crypto and darknet drugs communities) say this as their money is gone, gone, gone and assuring themselves the guy didn't just take the money and run and send them a bunch of random chemicals or nothing at all, in Liberland is fucking amazing. The fact that this guy is doing the exact same thing (Deny, deflect, and then double down) the other "captains of industry" have done when they got caught with their pants down surprises me exactly 0%.

Most libertarians can be summed up as so in my experience "Fuck you, got mine"

This is true to a certain extent, but only after someone dealing some substance has a lengthy track record of actually delivering. You can then count on them (probably) to do that in your case.

Where it gets problematic is if you actually expect them to come through on a huge deal out of their ordinary range. That's when defaulting (that is ripping you off and abandoning their identity) becomes a profitable choice.

In the crypto/anon world, never trust anyone.
 
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