DarksydePhil / TheyCallMeDSP / Phil Burnell - General Discussion

When will the begathon(s) for federal taxes happen (Up to 2 choices)?

  • January

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  • February

    Votes: 223 46.4%
  • March

    Votes: 214 44.5%
  • April

    Votes: 160 33.3%

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    481

killuminati

soap dropped, nigga
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The only concrete reason I heard him state for hiding the cat was 'because we didn't want detractors making up negative lies about him[Jasper]-such a pahsitive thing-when we were in such a bad, stressful financial sitiation", translated from Pigroachian and run through a De-garbler it's literally he hid the cat because he was afraid it would fuck up his begging narrative.
Exactly. It's the same position he would have been in if he had revealed this information for free. The only difference is the $2000 that got deposited into his PayPal account, and that's not even including the extra cheer and sub money he suckered out of these people.

And I really want to emphasize that. In no fucking way is Phil some kind of innocent victim in this scenario. His "muh trolls" excuse holds no water whatsoever. He sat here lying to these people because he knew they would be pissed if he told him he got a cat and followed it up with constant begathons he claimed were for bills and taxes. That's not a detractor spin, that's not defamatory, that's not making shit up. That's absolute fact.

There is a huge difference in narrative between telling your lie as: "A cat is something I'm not looking into at the moment" and "I can't afford a cat, getting money for my bills is more important right now."
The only reason you would feel the need to spin your response the latter way is for the purpose of deceiving people into giving you money. That's not a lie that's told out of fear, that's a lie that's told out of greed.

He wanted his 10 IQ paypigs to go "Oh wow, Phil is so broke that he can't even afford a cat, that's so sad. I guess I should give him money to help him with those bills"; Phil was fully aware of what the optics were. The trolls didn't make him get a cat he shouldn't have gotten, and the trolls didn't make him lie to everyone about it for months; but he has so little respect for the people that give him money that he has no remorse over taking advantage of their generosity. He doesn't need to change his lifestyle, he doesn't need to make smart financial decisions, you just need to keep giving him money whenever he says needs it.

And yet these exceptional individuals believe being blatantly conned and manipulated by this dude like that is somehow holding a W against "the trolls". It blows my fucking mind.

His other justifications for it are also complete garbage. He wants to spin this as some kind of benevolence on his part, when it's more than obvious that's not the case.

- It wasn't a scenario for him to unveil a brand new stream mascot (even accepting the ridiculous claim people were begging for one)
- It wasn't because he wanted to introduce him to the viewers formally.
- It wasn't because he thought it would be a genuine improvement to his content.
- It wasn't because this was positive news worth sharing.

The sole purpose was the squeeze money out of his viewership. Period. Even if you put the blatant contradictions and lies aside, there's still no justification for putting this behind a paywall. There were no unexpected bills, no taxes, no overdraft fees, fucking nothing. This faggot is always begging for contributions; there's never a time when he doesn't need to beg for contributions. What makes this circumstance so special that you need $1000 by the end of the night?

The only reason to do that shit would be for the sake of exploiting your viewership; which he confirmed by expressly stating that the unveil wouldn't happen without them hitting the goal. That's him seriously admitting that he would have continued to lie to and grift these people if they couldn't come up with he ransom he demanded. To somehow to spin that on the trolls is absolute horseshit. That's called pure, objective fucking greed (and it's clearly massively strong).

What took place here is the textbook definition of a confidence trick. He deceived his viewers into believing that it would only happen if they managed to come up with $1000, or they would miss out on the big reveal; all while knowing planetjeff was going to be sending him enough money to cover whatever money (if any) was missing at the end. He planted this fear of missing out in his viewers heads in order to spur urgent donations in a scenario that never actually called for them.

How that's an acceptable thing to do on Twitch? I have no fucking idea.
 

Exceptional Chimp

Chimpin' ain't easy but it's necessary.
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He’s breaking the TOS. With all his begging but twitch looks the other way cuz he’s a partner and somebody there is a fan of the gout lord
The sole purpose was the squeeze money out of his viewership. Period. Even if you put the blatant contradictions and lies aside, there's still no justification for putting this behind a paywall. There were no unexpected bills, no taxes, no overdraft fees, fucking nothing. This faggot is always begging for contributions; there's never a time when he doesn't need to beg for contributions. What makes this circumstance so special that you need $1000 by the end of the night?

The only reason to do that shit would be for the sake of exploiting your viewership; which he confirmed by expressly stating that the unveil wouldn't happen without them hitting the goal. That's him seriously admitting that he would have continued to lie to and grift these people if they couldn't come up with he ransom he demanded. To somehow to spin that on the trolls is absolute horseshit. That's called pure, objective fucking greed (and it's clearly massively strong).

What took place here is the textbook definition of a confidence trick. He deceived his viewers into believing that it would only happen if they managed to come up with $1000, or they would miss out on the big reveal; all while knowing planetjeff was going to be sending him enough money to cover whatever money (if any) was missing at the end. He planted this fear of missing out in his viewers heads in order to spur urgent donations in a scenario that never actually called for them.

How that's an acceptable thing to do on Twitch? I have no fucking idea.
Because he's Phil "Leg Scratch" Burnell, on who's stream even thots go to die. I wonder what the hell he's got on Hassan, or even Bezos, that lets him keep getting away with it. I'm thinking it's got to be something really sick, like Jared Fogle's friend making those special videos for his footlong-loving buddy. He begs to pay for protection money so the "detractors" (guys with no necks and a vowel at the end of their last name) don't give him back problems for real.

But on the other hand, I see signs in convenience stores that say "SNAP benefits cannot be used to buy..." followed by a list of no-nos (alcohol, tattoos, lottery bets, etc.). Maybe it's time to add tips/cheers online to that list. I pay taxes to fund tugboats so I don't trip over your dead carcass, if you're throwing money at this guy you clearly have more than you need.
 

Schmeckel

Praise 'til you're hollow
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Has Phil not commented on EVO this weekend or is he too caught up in his miserable existence to care anymore?

Even Street Fighter 5 wasnt boring this year
He made some stupid tweet that praised SonicFox as the best fighting game player of the modern Era being able to make it to finals in multiple games. Other than that, "I'm not part of that community anymore, you nudnik! I don't give a shit about Evo! What a complete moron."
 

PlasticOwls

Gone Forever
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He made some stupid tweet that praised SonicFox as the best fighting game player of the modern Era being able to make it to finals in multiple games. Other than that, "I'm not part of that community anymore, you nudnik! I don't give a shit about Evo! What a complete moron."
I wouldnt be shocked if he was secretly salty about his old nemesis Bonchan winning yesterday. I remember back in 2010 when he shit on him for losing to Gamerbee.

Also, not surprised he's sucking dick to the furman
 

Adamska

Last Gunman
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I wouldnt be shocked if he was secretly salty about his old nemesis Bonchan winning yesterday. I remember back in 2010 when he shit on him for losing to Gamerbee.

Also, not surprised he's sucking dick to the furman
He did get pissy when people asked about it, so yes. Pig the little bitch was mad some guy he knew from over 15 years ago won something now, despite Pig not meeting him for over a decade by now.

And yeah, Pig will never do a cat cam. Simple set up for money from his tardbase (no seriously, YT made it's start because of animal cams), but he can't be fucked because lazy.
 

Kermit the Frog

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How that's an acceptable thing to do on Twitch? I have no fucking idea.
It's really not. Phil violates the Twitch Community Guidelines all the time (see pic). Defrauds others with ridiculous fundraisers based on false information and pretenses. Feigns distress daily by saying he's always overdrawn on his bank account, can't pay his taxes or can't afford basic things for his job like games, while going out to restaurants all the time and buying expensive things behind the scenes. Resells Twitch services or features by giving mod status and unbanning people after they give him money. Unfortunately, as stated many times before, he's part of the protected class of streamers, which is why he loves Twitch so much and feels so secure in doing the shady shit he does.
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Surly Muppet

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Beyond pathetic.
Quality weasel word in there. "Can"

Is that "can" as in it's finally permitted because you managed to get thousands of dollars to admit he exists? And now for some reason the detractors won't order the hit on him that they would have before? You and Jasper are finally free from the prison of the self-imposed lie to obfuscate the fact that you don't actually need money for bills? And we're hyping that up?

Or is that "can" as in the door will be open and Jasper could hypothetically pass through but probably won't, which is why we're not making any promises. Even though he is supposed to be a big boon to the stream and the mascot in front of whose paws we will lay the bits to 'pay the bills'? Now he's just always a 'maybe' and I give it half a stream before he tells people not to ask about the fucking cat, when he's there, he's there.

Either way, the sun will rise and the begacy will continue.
 

Schmeckel

Praise 'til you're hollow
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You know, with how Phil said (paraphrased) "If the horse isn't in the barn, I can leave my office open for cat to come in on shillshtreems..." and later commented how his headphones were noise canceling.... Wouldn't it just be an absolute delight that the horse came back to the stable, wandered to her room and just cut loose an air biscuit with some massive fripples, the kind you get after a taco bell and jack Daniel's night, and Phil has to respond to shtreem chat that they didn't hear anything, that it was the house settling, that it was Jaspers toy, that it was his phone vibrating.... And, as such, the door to the office would never be open again. And jasper couldn't have "interactions" with the viewers. All because the horse launched a colon honk.
 

We Are The Witches

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It's really not. Phil violates the Twitch Community Guidelines all the time (see pic). Defrauds others with ridiculous fundraisers based on false information and pretenses. Feigns distress daily by saying he's always overdrawn on his bank account, can't pay his taxes or can't afford basic things for his job like games, while going out to restaurants all the time and buying expensive things behind the scenes. Resells Twitch services or features by giving mod status and unbanning people after they give him money. Unfortunately, as stated many times before, he's part of the protected class of streamers, which is why he loves Twitch so much and feels so secure in doing the shady shit he does.
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That's the problem with reporting such things, apart from what you say about the bias for streamers on Twitch, is that you would need very clear evidence for defraud, feigning distress and reselling a Twitch service.

First, is there clear evidence that this fundraiser was a defraud? The goal was ridiculous and total disrespect for the potential donors, but is it defrauding? He lied about having a cat but that was foreign to the event. He promised to reveal an announcement, and people donated for it, so the lie about his cat had no impact on it while the fundraiser took place.

Linked to this, is the question that he's feigning distress because of the lies about his bank account, which would also be included in the false pretenses for the fundraiser. Is there evidence that he doesn't have the money as he claims? As in an actual legitimate document showing it. There is currently none, and if there was, and it showed that he's lying, it would be actual fraud and a lawsuit could be filed against him.
This is just from a quick Google search, but it explains in simple words how would this work, (in general):
https://criminal-law.freeadvice.com/criminal-law/white_collar_crimes/lawsuit_fraud.htm
Regarding him going with Kat to the restaurants, did this happen around the time he claimed he had no money to buy the games, and also, is there evidence that this is on DSP's account instead of Kat's? (If it's on her behalf or his).

And finally, the Twitch service resell, is there evidence that you have to pay in order to be a mod? (As a statement proven to be of DSP, not just a mere observation). To my understanding, in Twitch for messages to be reported they cannot be screencaps, (could be added, but have 0 weight to determine in the end if the report is accurate or not), they need to be registered in the chat-logs/chatMod-logs or PMs, so that a Twitch employee can even begin to research this, (this is what it should happen, not what it may happen). As for the unbanning of people that give him money, that's practically impossible to prove.
 
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JamFlowMan

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This was probably brought up already but the odds are like 90% he bought a grill, right? Everything he said about getting a cat he also said about getting a grill. It kills him he can't brag about all the crap he blows money on so his get around is now talking about things he wants and how great they would be to have but he just can't afford them. Could be wrong you never know with Phil. It will be interesting to see if he brings up other things he "wants" in the future.
 

Salubrious

Feelin' Healthy
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This was probably brought up already but the odds are like 90% he bought a grill, right? Everything he said about getting a cat he also said about getting a grill. It kills him he can't brag about all the crap he blows money on so his get around is now talking about things he wants and how great they would be to have but he just can't afford them. Could be wrong you never know with Phil. It will be interesting to see if he brings up other things he "wants" in the future.
I would say that he probably got a grill for $100-$200 at Home Depot and it wouldn't be the worst investment in the world, but I also know that DSP doesn't buy cheap shit so he probably bought either bought a grill that was like $500-$600 or refuse to buy a grill until he could. That's one of the reasons he has so much fucking credit card debt.
 

Immortal Technique

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I love how Phil was mocking the idea of creating a Mixer account "just in case" Twitch goes south, as if something like that cannot happen.

I guess he forgot that he's the same guy who shit on not only Youtube for not foreseeing the Adpocalypse, but also the airline industry pre-9/11 for not foreseeing the biggest attack on the United States of our generation.
Foresight needs some type of brain synapses to be firing. It might take awhile, but I wouldn't be surprised if Twitch gets nailed to the wall for being a softcore porn site for underage kids through the media.