Law Democratic Candidate for Congress, Andrew Yang, wants China-esque Social Credit Score - You can scratch his name off the candidate list, Democrats

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Iwasamwillbe

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https://dailycaller.com/2018/11/17/andrew-yang-2020-social-credit/

New York entrepreneur and Democratic 2020 candidate Andrew Yang wants to implement a system in which a government-run mobile app rewards Americans with “digital social credits” (DSCs) for good behavior.

Americans would receive DSCs under Yang’s system for things such as “participating in a town fair,” “fixing a neighbor’s appliance” or “tutoring a student,” his presidential campaign website explains.

“As individuals rack up DSCs, they would have both a permanent balance they’ve earned over their lifetime and a current balance. They could cash the points in for experiences, purchases with participating vendors, support for causes, and transfer points to others for special occasions,” Yang states on his website. “As their permanent balance gets higher, they might qualify for various perks like throwing a pitch at a local ballgame, an audience with their local Congressperson or meeting their state’s most civic-minded athlete or celebrity.”

“The most socially detached would be the most likely to ignore all of this,” he added. “But many people love rewards and feeling valued.”

Yang’s social credit plan bears some similarities to the social credit system implemented by China’s authoritarian government.

Every citizen in China is assigned a social credit score that determines whether they can buy plane or train tickets.

Unlike the Chinese system, Yang’s plan does not include using digital social credit for punitive measures.

Campaign chair Matt Shinners emphasized in an email to The Daily Caller News Foundation that Yang’s system lacks the coercive element featured in China’s social credit system:

My understanding of the Chinese system (which is admittedly limited) is that it’s more of a rating that’s externally imposed based on a number of non-opt-in factors, almost like a credit rating, and collates information captured from public surveillance, economic and social media activity, etc… to create a ‘score’ that would then, possibly, be used to ‘blacklist’ people from certain activities. Under my understanding, the Chinese system is more of a score/rating than a system of credits.

Andrew’s platform calls for a system that’s much more akin to time banking, or to points that people earn on their credit cards. There’s no general monitoring of individual activity, and no scraping of social media sites to see what people are up to. Instead, activities such as volunteering or helping your neighbors would earn you credits that could then be traded with others for receiving similar help. For example, I spend 4 hours/week coaching a hockey team in my community, and I use the credits I earn to have a local electrician (who possibly has a kid on the team) help me install a garage door opener. There would also be backing by the federal government for conversion to currency (that would be taxed), or traded in for “fun” activities (such as getting to attend a bill signing).

Yang, a lifetime New Yorker, faces an uphill battle in a crowded Democratic primary. (RELATED: Democrats Could Have Five 2020 Candidates Over Age 70)

Though he hasn’t received much media attention, Yang’s campaign is actually in its ninth month. The candidate is currently on a national tour he labeled the “Humanity First Tour.”


In addition to the social credit system, Yang’s platform also calls for paying every American a universal basic income of $1,000 a month and government-sponsored journalism.
 

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New York entrepreneur and Democratic 2020 candidate Andrew Yang wants to implement a system in which a government-run mobile app rewards Americans with “digital social credits” (DSCs) for good behavior.

In addition to the social credit system, Yang’s platform also calls for paying every American a universal basic income of $1,000 a month and government-sponsored journalism.
This is the candidate from hell. Go figure he's Taiwanese.
 

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So the social credit system, but watered down a bit? I'm sure that totally wouldn't start to escalate after it was implemented. Also, cmon, money does this already. I do shit that contributes to society, I get paid for it, and I use that pay to buy rewards for myself, like a car or a laptop. That's literally the bedrock society is built on. We don't need another, shittier version of money that's run through an app. How would they even police it? Have other people input into the app when you should get points after helping them or whatever? What if they just don't? How would you force them to? Besides, providing incentive to do good deeds takes the good out of the deed. Then it's probably just people doing it so they can get their social credit bucks or whatever, not because they actually want to help people. There's way too many issues with this idea, frankly.
 

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Apart from that first shitty idea, he's a Democrat right so why would he even think giving already rich people $1000 more a month would be popular with the Democratic base?
Universal basic income is used when Capitalism becomes automated and there's no more jobs for humans. Not because people's current jobs don't pay enough or because a person's too lazy or too old.
Don't even get me started on the whole state sponsored media thing.
The 2020 primaries are going to be a shit show.
 

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So he is going with the trump's way of saying offensive and weirds things (is not the first news about him) to make people look at him and have a chance to become a candidate?
Trump bolstered his weird/offensive comments by talking about what the middle and working class wanted. This guy is talking about "government-sponsored journalism" (i.e. propaganda) and similarly insane shit.

Good for him, it seems it worked against OP.
Seems I got intellectually checkmated then. Also, nice edit.
 

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So the social credit system, but watered down a bit? I'm sure that totally wouldn't start to escalate after it was implemented. Also, cmon, money does this already. I do shit that contributes to society, I get paid for it, and I use that pay to buy rewards for myself, like a car or a laptop. That's literally the bedrock society is built on. We don't need another, shittier version of money that's run through an app. How would they even police it? Have other people input into the app when you should get points after helping them or whatever? What if they just don't? How would you force them to? Besides, providing incentive to do good deeds takes the good out of the deed. Then it's probably just people doing it so they can get their social credit bucks or whatever, not because they actually want to help people. There's way too many issues with this idea, frankly.
Maybe you fill out a form you send in to the IRS?
I wonder if you can go to jail for defrauding the government out of already fake money

Like if you apply for "social credit" you never earned, should people think you're a despicable felon or that you're smart and this whole thing is really gay?
 
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No. It's basically a "non-coercive" form of social credit.
Trump bolstered his weird/offensive comments by talking about what the middle and working class wanted. This guy is talking about "government-sponsored journalism" (i.e. propaganda) and similarly insane shit.
Seems I got intellectually checkmated then. Also, nice edit.
You sounds like a SJW in 2015 when they chimpout at Trump during the begining of his primaries when he says he would bomb arabs in the middle east and other things) and gets pissed when any normal guy in the internet laughts at them.
He is a literally who sying dumb things and you're giving him free advertising .
 

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You sounds like a SJW in 2015 when they chimpout at Trump during the begining of his primaries when he says he would bomb arabs in the middle east and other things) and gets pissed when any normal guy in the internet laughts at them.
The difference is that killing a spreading terrorist group (ISIS) that wants to violently murder westerners is not a stupid idea or bad conclusion to reach, whereas UBI which will continue raising the debt like crazy, a push for what already sounds like government propaganda, and a "social good boy point" system sounding much like the crazy shit being pulled in China or even worse, the allegiance system of North Korea, coming from someone who is Asian and clearly is not showing any respect for western culture and how the west does things, is about as moronic of an idea as any. People are not blind and have seen how these practices have worked in other nations and it's an absolute nightmare.

He is a literally who and you're giving him advertising being mad at a literally who saying dumb things.
I think people are less mad and more just calling him a retard.
 

Iwasamwillbe

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You sounds like a SJW in 2015 when they chimpout at Trump during the begining of his primaries when he says he would bomb arabs in the middle east and other things) and gets pissed when any normal guy in the internet laughts at them.
That is a false analogy. Attacking foreigners in a distant land (and "other things") is not at all like implementing policies that can be used to suppress people within your own homeland (like this "non-coercive" form of social credit), institute state-sponsored propaganda (like the "government-sponsored journalism"), or incite an explosion of debt (like through universal basic income).

Trump's statements in the primaries may have been crazy, but they're a different kind of crazy than that we see here.

And Trump did end up bombing Arabs in the Middle East, so...
He is a literally who and you're giving him advertising being mad at a literally who saying dumb things.
Who said I was mad? I just find it funny.
 
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