Descent's Elementary School Chastity Textbook. -

[Descent]

So I finally made a thread for this. I've shown it in chat several times, but here for all of you is the absitnance only "textbook" I was given in grade 7 (which ended up being the only thing resemebling sex ed. that I got in all my years at Catholic school). I'm only going to show the first few pages for now and give you guys some background. I say "textbook" because it's not even 50 pages including the front and back cover and random blank white pages (and oh fuck are there a ton of them). It says "Parent's Guide" on the cover, and I've seen the student's guide used on amazon, but hell if I remember getting one. You see, we were supposed to go over some stuff at school and some at home. What ended up happening was the teacher not wanting to discuss "such delicate issues" with us and expecting our parents to do most of the work, and our parents not wanting to discuss "such delicate issues" and expecting the school to teach us. Now, on to what will surely be a high quality book:

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Goddamn, I haven't even opened it up and already you can tell it's shit. There will be even worse drawings inside.

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(I skipped over our first random blank page)

There are eight drawings in this book and it apparently took three people with no talent to do them. And the photos. Oh god the photos that ended up in here. I ended up cropping a ton of these pictures because there was so much fucking blank space. So if you're wondering why the pages are all different dimensions, that's why.

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With ecclesiastical approval! I made notes and highlights awhile ago so excuse me if I point things out twice. One of them being that I got this book in 2000 when it was published in 1986. With no revisions inbetween.

Because if it was true during the Regan era AIDS panic it's still true now!

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There you go. That's what we're in for. All Most of it gold, all of it full of bullshit.

I don't think it counts as a chapter or section when it's less than one page long.

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"Chastity is integral to a happy, full and successful life." Didn't get that job you wanted? It's 'cause you had sex. Feeling down? It's 'cause you had sex. Feel a hole in your life because you don't have many friends? It's 'cause you had sex.

"Since marriage is a relatively distant future event for most teens...". Yeah, you'll notice that this book won't try to dissuade teens from marrying young, which is a big problem for people indoctrinated like this and something I've seen ruin the lives of people I went to school with. But whatevs, as long as they didn't have pre-marital sex right?

Oh yeah, and "Freedom of Chastity".

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'kay, I had to look up Familiaris Consortio and it's "a postsynodal apostolic exhortation written by Pope John Paul II and promulgated on November 22, 1981." So we have what was at the time a 14 year old "text book" referencing a 19 year old...thing.

"For this reason the Church is firmly opposed to an often widespread form of imparting sex information dissociated from moral principles. That would merely be an introduction to the experience of pleasure and stimus leading to the loss of serenity..." You guys all got hard looking at biology textbooks right?

That's it for now. It gets better (or worse) from here.

 

[Pinhead]

pedo handbook

 

[Trickie]

pedo handbook

More like "preggo handbook". Telling teenagers raging with hormones that they shouldn't fuck or masturbate and not educating them about safe sex is practically asking for a surprise bun in the oven.

 

[Descent]

More like "preggo handbook". Telling teenagers raging with hormones that they shouldn't fuck or masturbate and not educating them about safe sex is practically asking for a surprise bun in the oven.

I showed him some pages later in the book. He's actually not that far off [/spoiler]

 

[Arkangel]

Abstinence-Only education is pretty much rooted in religious origin. Amusingly, or depressingly enough, if you look at places that exclusively teach abstinence-only sex ed, you find that they actually have higher rates of teenage pregnancy and STDs than places that teach comprehensive sex ed, which includes abstinence. You're not gonna be able to stop people from having sex. The best thing you can do is to give teens the proper knowledge and items they need so they're less likely to end up making poor decisions involving sex.

Also, I thought of this comic:

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[Descent]

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Remember how good the 1950's were! Also, I love how random sections are in bold. It's like a Jack Chick Tract.

What are our goals? The get them married before they get pregnant.
Oh, okay good. Get them married before they're ready or sure of the person they're with isn't a priority.

So I don't want to get too personal or weepy, but growing up and being told that I had three options in life (being a nun, being single and alone or being a parent) was a major reason why I was depressed for several years.

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Since many of us don't remember the clinical names of our anatomy, a textbook can do a better job than we can. That is so depressing and probably true of the people who got this book. Fucking sad face :.(

"...commitment of Christian marriage..." LOL, none of that interreligious marriage nonsence. You stay with your own people.

"Children" and "genital arousal" should not be in the same sentence D:

"...Chastity enables us to develop the other skills needed in relationships and in successful marriages, such as the art of verbal communication". ...I..uh...I don't know. I don't fucking know.

"...we will enable teens to grasp the strength of our belief and accept it as their own." Nothing brainwashy about that.

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"Slang expressions or the language of the streets are inappropriate." That is the whitest fucking thing I've ever heard.

"Prudence suggests that we not overwhelm our youth with biological information." Remember, knowledge is bad. That shitty drawing (which apparently took three people to draw) proves it. You owe it to yourself to read the totally TRUE AND HONEST story they bring up that totally happened.

 

[Silver]

This is amazing

 

[Descent]

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"Sometimes their questions may seem like attacks on morals, but usually they are not." lol, god forbid you be questioned. That's basically a hate crime.

"...that need will be filled with the values of the street and locker rooms." That is my new favourite white people saying.

Young girls need to learn about dressing modestly, young boys need to learn about resisting temptation and getting wet dreams.

Offensive jokes and birth control are the same thing BTW.

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Society has gotten so bad we may need to take the Eucharist daily.

"sound biological information" and religion do not blend well.

"we can create a respect for sexuality in the next generation that can begin to eliminate the demand for abortion, pornography and teen contraceptive clinics. Dream big!" Where are these contraceptive clinics that target teens?

"It only takes a spark to get a fire going!" *insert joke about blowing up Planned Parenthood here*

"As parents, we already have the common sense that comes with age and experience." Ho ho ho ho ho. So I take it this was the 80's equivalent of starting a sentence with "AS A MOTHER..."

..."immature reliance on sensuality."

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OH NOES! NOT THE CONSEQUENCES OF PORNOGRAPHY! D: D: D: D:

"Unfortunately, with the recent developments in psychology and the focus on the self-justifing concept of 'self-esteem'..." I must have posted this a dozen times in chat. There's proof that I didn't make that line up.

That's it for now. I promise the pages get better, but so much of this crap is just repeating the same thing over and over again with bible quotes mixed in. That fish that's playing pokemon at the moment could crap out a better textbook.

 

[Konstantinos]

That book doesn't provide good advice. Teenagers fuck like rabbits. Just saying "Sex is bad, don't have it" will almost certainly have the opposite effect. Not educating people about these things properly only leads to teen pregnancies, people getting diseases and hatred of gays.

 

[Descent]

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The Catholic Church, as the universal Church...

"This outlook is unrealistic today." Literally two pages ago the author was whining about how "God has not changed and 'eternal truth' means forever". Either shit is true through the ages, or you have to grow and adapt to soceity. One or the other.

"The official Church teaching is the only position we can afford to take." The use of the word "afford" seems really odd to me.

"authentic maturity" Okay, she's just making shit up now.

Also that drawing. Yeah, that's a real middle ground.

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"Humanae Vitae includes some of the most beautiful and prophetic writings on love, marriage and dignity that has ever been in print". I couldn't find a reaction pic that could truley show the face I made after reading that.

You can see I made notes on the page, but everytime god is referred to as "he" it's capitalized, but everytime the church is referred to as "she" it's lower case. Nice casual sexism there. Also the word "Here's" is capitalized for some reason.

Also also, under the Confidence Gained in Relationships with Others paragraph, you can see the author used a gender neutral word like spouse for all of the examples, except for the one about listening to a family member to see things his way.

"...and our love-relationships..." okay, she's definately making words up now.

Holy shit, those first two book titles at the end of page!

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D: D: D:

 

[Descent]

Sorry I haven't updated in awhile. Here's more pages than usual.

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A table of contents in the middle of the textbook for a seperate textbook. I have no fucking clue what any of this is referring to since we barely even did anything with these books. I do love the 1984esque language, "educational centers chosen and controlled by them".

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PRACTICE MAKES PERFECT of ARE YOU A GREAT LOVER? Describes how to become a great Christian lover of God and His creation. There is nothing about that sentence that doesn't make me want to vomit.

Reveals sin as an abuse of our freedom

Also, at first glance I thought that really shitty drawing was about a white girl imagining herself as a black boy.

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"Distinguishes between the positive results of the practice of chastity and the natural consequences of sins against chastity. Well, that sounds fair and unbiased.

...and many saints throughout history who have chosen chastity. Can anyone name a male saint who died protecting their virginity because the only ones I can think of are female ones? Women chose death over loosing their virginity, men ask God to "Grant me chastity and continence, but not yet."

Here's a larger scan of that brilliant drawing on the left

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Too lazy to explain my note at the top of the page. Go here

This was something I read on a blog and wasn't in this book, but that "family activity" picture reminds me of this fundie list of ideas for young adults to do in a group date (since two people on a date is a sin obviously). It was something like "Have an alphabet letter hunt. Go around the mall looking for each letter of the alphabet".

"Could the plot of the show have survived without the immorality?" No. What a retarded question. Moving on...
"How would you rewrite the plot to illustrate or reinforce Christian Values?" Very poorly and shoe horned in I imagine.
Think of other ways there are to sell products (toothpaste, chewing gum, soft drinks) without relying on sex appeal." You guys remember the old toothpaste and bubble gum commercials we jerked off to as kids right?

No seriously, what kind of commericals are they thinking off?

Discuss what human beings have in common with animals and what unique attributes God has given to us alone." This is a book for teenagers.

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Regarding attending a weekday mass: "If this means extra sacrifices (getting up early, missing a meal or adjusting a work schedule)..." Starving and missing work. Nothing unhealthy about that.

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"Discuss how enslavement to our bodily desires causes us to lose our freedom to choose."

"There are seven capital sins. Discuss how two of these, lust and gluttony, can lead us to more serious sin." Who calls the seven deadly sins 'capital' sins? Also, gluttony's kind of a random sin to bring in at this point.

What does the virtue of modesty include? (Hint: a pure mind, clean speech, modest dress and virtuous actions)." Hint: you just gave away the answers.

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Why should young Catholics develop a devotion to Mary and the Holy Rosary." Yes, growing up I heard many times from priests and Catholic teachers "No we totes don't worship Mary. We honour her." Stuff like this does not support their arguement.

 

[Descent]

Ooooooh boy are we about to get into the good stuff.

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FOR ADULTS ONLY YOU GUYS! It's a good thing the cwcki put in an over 18 rule, because I wouldn't want any impressionable teenagers to be harmed by these crude drawings.

"It may be good to seperate the boys from the girls and invite a priest to address these moral issues." What moral issues? Biology? And yes, it's important to keep boys and girls seperate. We wouldn't want them learning how the other sex's bodies work.

"...Not because your child should not know about certain sexual sins and abuses..." on the same page as biological drawings, and one sentence before "LET'S START THE BIOLOGY UNIT".

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"This chapter is designed to provide necessary information without overwhelming the young teen." That's some good writing there. That's almost Connor levels of good.

"For that reason, it is recommended that Chapter Six be taught at home and not in the school or group setting." School's aren't for learning.

"The diagrams provided here are for you and your teen to use at home. They are purposely left out of the student text to avoid desensitization or embarrassment for the students in a classroom." ...I...I got nothing. Just... goddamn.

Maturity is an important term to know when talking about BIOLOGY.

'kay, I barely had any kind of sex ed in my life, so if our more learned members want to pick apart anything they got wrong, please do.

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I like how they left out Clitorus.

I'm sure you guys will be shocked to learn that oral sex play is a sin.

"It is a violation of chastity and a form of lust-using each other for pleasure".

"Every genitally arousing act must be within the framework of marriage and should culminate in the act of natural intercourse if it is to be a complete love-giving and potentially life-giving act." Spouses are never allowed to say "no" because it means you're not "love-giving".

Masturbation


"Masturbation is an immature and degrading act." You heard it hear guys. Stop diddling yourselves, it's degrading. Guilt your spouse into fucking you everytime you get a hard on instead.

"The delicate topic of mastubartion is best discussed with a priest..." NO

Some psychologists claim that masturbation is normal. This, however, does not mean it is right." Yeah, what do psychologists know? With their secular degrees and books and ideas about consent.

"Our Church teaches that 'masturbation is an intrinsically and seriously disordered act'."

"Teenagers, especially young men, may commit this offense due to weakness, immaturity or curiosity. It is important as a parent to guide them to a good confessor who will help them overcome this immature action." Take your young son to see an older man so he can tell him about jerking it.

"The habit of masturbation can bring serious psychological and sexual problems." YOU WANNA KNOW WHAT ELSE CAUSES THAT? Bronze age views about sex, gender roles and consent.

"...it can distort true sexual enjoyment later on in a marriage."

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"If a young man consciously does nothing to cause the erection, for example, chancing upon stimulating materials, there is no sin. If left alone, the erection will go away so masturbation is never necessary." I read this paragraph to my boyfriend. He just laughed and laughed and laughed.

"An excellent video discussion on this subject for parent and son, is Father Roberts Talks to Teens, available from Pax Tapes in St.Louis, Missouri." I understand that this is from the 80's and that there was no Wikipedia or Internet back then, but come the fuck on. There must be a better way to site sources and shit then just going "GO TO THIS VIDEO STORE IN MISSOURI".

"These materials can put the imagination in 'overdrive' and can bring on memories..."

"Although God designed the act to be pleasureable, pleasure is a side effect, not the goal."

"It cheapens human sexuality, even when used vicariously on T-shirts and bumper stickers." How do these people manage in the real world?

 

[The Knife's Husbando]

(lol) Thank you for sharing this. I didn't think it was mathematically possible for this much stupid to exist at one place, at one time.

 

[BriarHeart]

Oh, Christ on a cracker, I'm getting flashbacks to my fundamentalist-creationist-Catholic homeschooler days. We didn't use this exact book, but it was pretty damn similar, and it fucked me up as much as you'd expect. Even five-ish years after breaking away, I've still got bits of their shame-chains hanging off my sexuality and gender identity, and they pinch like a mother.

Thank you, Descent, for taking this bullshit apart. Hearing the sane response to this kind of indoctrination helps people like me a lot. You're doing GodBearJesus' work here.

Edited because I cannot grammar before my second coffee.

 

[Roosechu]

Jokes is that here in Italy, which is the Catholic country by default, private school couldn't even dream of handing out that textbook .

 

[Descent]

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In a world filled with contraceptives... Condoms all up in this bitch!

to plan children with fertility knowledge and self-control, Yes, because if there's anything fundies know, it's how women's bodies work. Also, the only thing more fun than waiting to have sex before marriage is continuing to wait after you're finally married, right?

when we contracept, we defend ourselves against our spouse. He or she is seen as a threat. And chaperoning and physically monitoring your teenager when they're dating someone isn't defensive or treating the person they're interested in as a threat.

Some people have taken on the contraceptive mentality in fear that they couldn't practice the self-control necessary to plan the right size family or that God would not provide for them as He has promised. Yeah, or they're trying to protect their physical or mental health. LOL j/k Mental health isn't real.

Natural methods of family planning are not based on fear, but on faith in God... Yeah, well faith in one hand and crap in the other and see which one you can routinly depend on more.

The modern natural methods are highly effective, even during irregular cycles, menopause, or breastfeeding.

abortifacients LOL that word has lost all meaning to me since so many people use it incorrectly.

Besides being immoral, each artificial method comes with its own set of side effects....there is no need to suffer the side effects, inconveniences or sinfulness of birth control devices. Yes, because pregnancy has NO side effects or risks what so ever. Pregnancy is all about wearing bigger clothes and having weird cravings.

Sterilization is a form of despair. It says: "I will never be able to control my sex drives to plan the size family I should have." Nevermind the size family you want. That's being selfish.

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"I surrender my human powers of reason and will to my biology. The animal in me wins."

Homosexuality Oh goody. I'm sure this textbook from 1986 will be enlightening.

A homosexual relationship is futile and can never be fulfilling. ... ... ...

There is no unity or procreation possible in a sexual relationship between two people of the same sex. I just remembered the two lesbians I went to school with who had to deal with a ton of depression and bullying before they could finally admit "yes, I am gay, I need to stop pretending."

As the secular media proclaims homosexual rights... Now, I was born in 1987, so I'm not 100%, but I'm pretty sure the media "proclaiming" homosexual rights wasn't actually a thing.

...corrects the false notion that homosexuality is "neutral of even good". Hoooooooooooooly shit.

The homosexual tendency or urge, while not sinful in itself, is nevertheless a "tendency ordered toward an intrinsic moral evil and thus the inclination itself must be seen as an objective disorder". This kind of thinking has worked out wonderfully for people like Chris or Jace.

Homosexual persons are human beings, that are neither neutral or good capable of self-control, who could acknowledge this condition as a special cross given by God.

Boys in their pre-teen years should have healthy relationships with men of character as role models. They need father's uncles, neighbors, scout leaders or coaches to admire. Sometimes the humour writes itself.

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We can show them that it's all right to be different, if it means being Christian. You can be different, so long as you behave like 80% of the population.

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Teenagers need to be hugged, just like everyone else. This may seem awkward at first, and you as a parent will need to take the initiative. We all need a pat on the back and a good squeeze once in a while. So we went from a chastity textbook to an instruction manual for aliens pretending to be humans.

Those three bullet points are the most first worldish problems I've ever heard. I half expected them to say something like "having yellow tab levis when everyone else has red tabs". Also, why is "to do homework" in quotes?

Also also, for someone who bitches about the evils of "secular media" the author sure does seem to think that life works like a cheesy sitcom.

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One of the best times to talk is before bed at night. Vulnerability seems to set in at day's end. Yeah, there's nothing fucking creepy about that sentence.

Our children's first feelings of attraction to a member of the opposite sex are an occasion to let him or her know this is normal and good, but to recognize those feelings for what they are-first attractions, not true love. The Duggar's and other Quiverful families would disagree since having attraction to someone you don't end up marrying is basically cheating on your future spouse and dating is just practice for divorce.

 

[ON 190]

Holy hell, I'm glad I'm not the only one who collects old medical/school textbooks. Church sales and thrift stores are the best for finding them.

 

[Uzumaki]

You could launch a career in stand-up comedy just by reading passages of this thing on stage.

 

[Descent]

You could launch a career in stand-up comedy just by reading passages of this thing on stage.

I'd have to have random minutes of silence to emulate the random blank pages through out it.

 

[Uzumaki]

I'd have to have random minutes of silence to emulate the random blank pages through out it.

Those sound like the best part.