Destroying corporations infrastructure as resistance - In SimCity

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The main problem with trying to use violence to rally people against oppressors is that you'll only hurt some low-grade innocents that are trying to get by, and more than anything give the oppressors more examples of your side being the bad guy.

With that being said, considering that a lot of modern problems can be attributed to money and politics being more in bed than ever, especially with the rise of international corporations fucking any local competitors and supporting removing civil liberties, wouldn't the best way to resist is to destroy corporations infrastructure while minimising any damage to human lives?

The ruling elite will not care if you kill 100 wage slaves, but destroy network servers or package processing lines and the damage is not only in the millions, but there is not a lot to do about it in the future unless they are willing to engage in violence with protestors, which will only make the vandals look like the moral side. It can also help with general issues of reducing automation (can't automate when the human replacement keeps being burned) and creating competition (you'd rather buy locally than try to order online).

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Why the fuck is Null removing ratings when he should be adding ratings for glow in the dark shit like this thread?
The ruling elite will not care if you kill 100 wage slaves, but destroy network servers or package processing lines and the damage is not only in the millions, but there is not a lot to do about it in the future unless they are willing to engage in violence with protestors, which will only make the vandals look like the moral side.
That's already happened. The guy who blew up the street in downtown Nashville the AT&T data center was on at the crack of dawn on Christmas morning shut down 9/11 in almost all of Tennessee and parts of 4 other states, shut down all phone and internet that used AT&T (including fucking up banking systems and getting flights delayed), and all sorts of systems were fucked up throughout the week as they slowly restored them.

Unfortunately, in his quest to save humanity from the reptilians who were building 5G towers to brainwash us all, he pissed off millions of people because he quite literally ruined Christmas because they couldn't call family who wasn't present (which you know, a lot of them were since some people might not want granda to die of the Chinese virus going around). Nobody likes AT&T, but people would choose them over some guy ruining Christmas.
It can also help with general issues of reducing automation (can't automate when the human replacement keeps being burned) and creating competition (you'd rather buy locally than try to order online).
That didn't work so well for the Luddites now, did it?
 

Lone MacReady

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Most core problems stem from "currency" issues. Get honest money back into the hands of the people instead of Fiat debt notes and things will improve. Actually combating a Tech Monopoly would likely be the same as any other asymmetric campaign against a Force Monopoly. For example, oligarchs require Silver in the components of the tech products they shill. Understand that they use the co-opted COMEX (paper market) to keep the Silver "price" manipulated down and the plebs uninterested in it. Waking the public up to this, and returning Silver to true monetary status as was enshrined in our Constitution, would be a viable non-violent method to fuck over the Corporatists. If Silver goes from 25$ to 200$ an ounce, companies like Amazon, Apple, Microsoft, Tesla, and Google start bleeding cash.
 

Wowcoolusername

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The main problem with trying to use violence to rally people against oppressors is that you'll only hurt some low-grade innocents that are trying to get by, and more than anything give the oppressors more examples of your side being the bad guy.

With that being said, considering that a lot of modern problems can be attributed to money and politics being more in bed than ever, especially with the rise of international corporations fucking any local competitors and supporting removing civil liberties, wouldn't the best way to resist is to destroy corporations infrastructure while minimising any damage to human lives?

The ruling elite will not care if you kill 100 wage slaves, but destroy network servers or package processing lines and the damage is not only in the millions, but there is not a lot to do about it in the future unless they are willing to engage in violence with protestors, which will only make the vandals look like the moral side. It can also help with general issues of reducing automation (can't automate when the human replacement keeps being burned) and creating competition (you'd rather buy locally than try to order online).

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wtfNeedSignUp

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As we've seen with the militant activism of Extinction Rebellion activists, it's more likely than not to backfire on them, especially if it causes major inconveniences to people.
Didn't Extinction Rebellion block roads and and made the common person's life miserable? It doesn't really have any sort of point, or damage to a specific culprit.
Most core problems stem from "currency" issues. Get honest money back into the hands of the people instead of Fiat debt notes and things will improve. Actually combating a Tech Monopoly would likely be the same as any other asymmetric campaign against a Force Monopoly. For example, oligarchs require Silver in the components of the tech products they shill. Understand that they use the co-opted COMEX (paper market) to keep the Silver "price" manipulated down and the plebs uninterested in it. Waking the public up to this, and returning Silver to true monetary status as was enshrined in our Constitution, would be a viable non-violent method to fuck over the Corporatists. If Silver goes from 25$ to 200$ an ounce, companies like Amazon, Apple, Microsoft, Tesla, and Google start bleeding cash.
The question how can you do it when most people have zero understanding of the market and that politicians are completely dependent on this not happening to retain their influence and golden parachute.

*in Minecraft, right?
Yes and also in 4d underwater Othello.
 

Lemmingwise

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The main problem with trying to use violence to rally people against oppressors is that you'll only hurt some low-grade innocents
Assuming the assesment of a group being oppressors, war is the only recourse. Yes, you want to fight the war in a way that you could win.

But they are not going to cooperate and give you back your non-oppression.

But any such war is not won or lost with a protest or some mob violence, or some sabotage. But a whole lot of these and other methods.

If.
 

HOMO FOR LIFE

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The main problem with trying to use violence to rally people against oppressors is that you'll only hurt some low-grade innocents that are trying to get by, and more than anything give the oppressors more examples of your side being the bad guy.

With that being said, considering that a lot of modern problems can be attributed to money and politics being more in bed than ever, especially with the rise of international corporations fucking any local competitors and supporting removing civil liberties, wouldn't the best way to resist is to destroy corporations infrastructure while minimising any damage to human lives?

The ruling elite will not care if you kill 100 wage slaves, but destroy network servers or package processing lines and the damage is not only in the millions, but there is not a lot to do about it in the future unless they are willing to engage in violence with protestors, which will only make the vandals look like the moral side. It can also help with general issues of reducing automation (can't automate when the human replacement keeps being burned) and creating competition (you'd rather buy locally than try to order online).

Opinions?
Companies are byproducts of the society. Corporate entities are what you call organization of people trying to make money in a competitive market. .it's like war except it's waged with money.

To change the way we function as society, we must first change the government and the way competition is waged. Only then can we truly reclaim the sovereignty of our existence.
 

Reverend

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The main problem with trying to use violence to rally people against oppressors is that you'll only hurt some low-grade innocents that are trying to get by, and more than anything give the oppressors more examples of your side being the bad guy.

With that being said, considering that a lot of modern problems can be attributed to money and politics being more in bed than ever, especially with the rise of international corporations fucking any local competitors and supporting removing civil liberties, wouldn't the best way to resist is to destroy corporations infrastructure while minimising any damage to human lives?

The ruling elite will not care if you kill 100 wage slaves, but destroy network servers or package processing lines and the damage is not only in the millions, but there is not a lot to do about it in the future unless they are willing to engage in violence with protestors, which will only make the vandals look like the moral side. It can also help with general issues of reducing automation (can't automate when the human replacement keeps being burned) and creating competition (you'd rather buy locally than try to order online).

Opinions?

That's not how it works. You won't hire a thousand people to push buttons you will find the bug/error/fuckup fix it and then go back and hire a small team of folks to audit and make sure it doesn't happen again.

Defacing, breaking corporate infrastructure does nothing but long term REMOVE jobs from the market place as the more humans are involved the more we fuck it up. You bring in consultants, security analysts, and for a short time there is job growth but long term more and more people are displaced as you tune the operation to report to a handful of people automated results vs. someone standing there checking a thing.

Mister Robot and Fight Club isn't real and neither is it a template for success. Want to stop the corporate power houses? Get into politics and check them there, fine them, bankrupt them, punish them fiscally, lower their stock price, the board of director and shareholders will shit bricks and fire everyone in charge because MONEY=POWER.
 

Syaoran Li

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Obvious glow post is obvious

Trying to do anything that requires the words "in Minecraft" to be tacked onto the end of a sentence that mentions it is fucking stupid.

Fighting back is retarded. The war is already lost and all that can be done is to hide, keep your head down, and lay down and die. Don't do anything that's stupid enough to land you in prison.
 

Rusty Crab

and it kept getting worse...
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These corporations have nearly infinite money and just get government bailouts as a result of property damage.

I have other opinions on the matter but I'll keep them to myself.
 

L50LasPak

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What op is proposing is fighting an entity with essentially no physical presence through acts that only affect its physical assets. Corporations are quite malleable; if it becomes untenable to operate their infrastructure and conduct operations in general in one country, they will simply move it somewhere else. Additionally, even if this campaign actually succeeds in hurting the corporation enough to cripple or maim them, that power vaccuum will be immediately exploited by the corporation's rivals; who will move in and cannibalize their stricken rival and then go right back to business as usual, except this time with stronger security.

United States and international laws simply allow too much freedom to corporate entities for this to work, and people will be too uncoordinated to effectively target and damage corporations in a way that will count. If we see anything in the future it will be uncoordinated acts of vandalism such as the AT&T bomber; people not affiliated with any one group or movement simply lashing out at whatever is present out of anger, damn the consequences.
 

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