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Claiming to be a veteran when you are not (stolen valor) is a federal crime. This makes sense because veterans receive benefits, are wifely a protected group, and fraudulently claiming to be a veteran is disrespectful to the people that (whatever their motivations) put their life on the line (ostensibly) in defense of the US.
I submit that for all those same reasons, falsely claiming to have a diagnosis of some illness or disorder in an effort to receive a protected status or monetary benefit in some way should be just as much of a crime.
If someone is going to, say, waste a bunch of the court's time avoiding a straight answer about what kind of reproductive organs they have by claiming to be "intersex"(a real, but incredibly rare, medical condition), or if they make claims about their mental illness to cry bully and get someone else deplatformed, they should be required to provide documentation of a diagnosis or face the same penalties as someone charged with stolen valor.
Now, I understand the first argument would be that medical records are private, and that's true. However, I think that if a person is going to make a public claim about whatever medical condition where there is a direct benefit to them or consequence for someone else, they have already forfeited any privacy regarding that condition/illness. I'm hoping any more legally minded kiwis might provide insight on that.
I also refuse to accept undiagnosed, self diagnosed or otherwise undocumented conditions/illnesses as qualifying for protected status, and there isn't any good excuse for not getting a proper diagnosis if you want to wield it as a sword and shield.
I am well aware that the medical system is (at least in part) corrupt and that someone can basically pay for a diagnosis from unscrupulous medical professionals. For the sake of argument let's just gloss over that for now, and at least assume that if these munchausen cry bullies want to claim disability for pity points, they have to jump through whatever hoops to get it put on their record and also accept whatever insurance implications go along with it.
I know this is just a random notion brought about by reading about the exceptional individuals featured here, but I am interested in reading anyone else's thoughts about this idea. I have to believe others feel the same way.
TL;DR: Falsely claiming to have an illness, condition, or mental handicap for pity points and protected status should be just as illegal as stolen valor.
Also: I am not a veteran, and I'm not trying to make any claims about the nobility or virtuousness of veterans. I'm simply saying that conceptually, "stolen diagnosis" and stolen valor are similar enough that they should be punished the same.
I submit that for all those same reasons, falsely claiming to have a diagnosis of some illness or disorder in an effort to receive a protected status or monetary benefit in some way should be just as much of a crime.
If someone is going to, say, waste a bunch of the court's time avoiding a straight answer about what kind of reproductive organs they have by claiming to be "intersex"(a real, but incredibly rare, medical condition), or if they make claims about their mental illness to cry bully and get someone else deplatformed, they should be required to provide documentation of a diagnosis or face the same penalties as someone charged with stolen valor.
Now, I understand the first argument would be that medical records are private, and that's true. However, I think that if a person is going to make a public claim about whatever medical condition where there is a direct benefit to them or consequence for someone else, they have already forfeited any privacy regarding that condition/illness. I'm hoping any more legally minded kiwis might provide insight on that.
I also refuse to accept undiagnosed, self diagnosed or otherwise undocumented conditions/illnesses as qualifying for protected status, and there isn't any good excuse for not getting a proper diagnosis if you want to wield it as a sword and shield.
I am well aware that the medical system is (at least in part) corrupt and that someone can basically pay for a diagnosis from unscrupulous medical professionals. For the sake of argument let's just gloss over that for now, and at least assume that if these munchausen cry bullies want to claim disability for pity points, they have to jump through whatever hoops to get it put on their record and also accept whatever insurance implications go along with it.
I know this is just a random notion brought about by reading about the exceptional individuals featured here, but I am interested in reading anyone else's thoughts about this idea. I have to believe others feel the same way.
TL;DR: Falsely claiming to have an illness, condition, or mental handicap for pity points and protected status should be just as illegal as stolen valor.
Also: I am not a veteran, and I'm not trying to make any claims about the nobility or virtuousness of veterans. I'm simply saying that conceptually, "stolen diagnosis" and stolen valor are similar enough that they should be punished the same.