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Did Michael Jackson Molest Children?

  • Yes

    Votes: 88 46.1%
  • No

    Votes: 76 39.8%
  • He Touched Me

    Votes: 74 38.7%

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Indrid Cold

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I'm amazed the poll is so split!

Honestly, MJ was a child molester. Bombshell I know, but living south of L.A. put me in contact with some interesting people. One of the more interesting people (in regards to MJ) was a young lady who worked for an upscale Hotel chain and managed multiple sites around the So-Cal area. She happened to be working a more chill remote site, when one of the upscale suites began calling for assistance.

She and a male co-worker went up to the suite to be greeted by a massive body-guard who demands to know where the private elevators are located. She acknowledged there was a limited-access elevator that lead to the basement garage, but would need to know what was going on first and if someone was injured, then she needed to call 911. Upon hearing "911" the body-guard freaks and tells them it's a "private medical situation" not a fight. After a minute of arguing with my friend, the guard enters the room shutting the door behind himself, a discussion is heard and the body-guard returns with a small person hooded in a hotel blanket.

"I'm ok, but I need to see my private doctor and I can't ride in an ambulance, sorry." (or something to that effect) is all the person says then goes back into the room. They're summoned into the suite and she sees droplets of blood from the bedroom, across the floor, to the kitchen where a drawer of towels was open. She enters the bedroom and there's a few small puddles of blood on a stripped mattress with the bedding wadded in the corner. The water is running in the restroom behind a locked door and after knocking a bit a voice says "I'm fine".

She returns to the main room of the suite where the blanket-wrapped person, bundles in a chair and shamefully hides their face. "Is that your blood" my friend asks the hooded figure. "Yes sorry. It's medical. I'm sorry." My friend, not seeing any obvious victims and overwhelmed by everything tells them to pack and be ready to leave in ten-minutes.

She leaves, finds co-workers to watch the main desk and returns to a packed and suspiciously overdressed trio waiting in the hall. The blanketed figure is now in a giant hoodie hiding his face and the mysterious bathroom person is a man wearing a hooded-sweatshirt as well but with some goofy looking large brimmed hat (I found this part most hilarious). After assisting with luggage, riding in an elevator with them, and waiting in a basement for 20min watching them, my friend was able to determine the large-hatted person was MJ and his little bleeder friend was an adolescent boy.

Two cars arrived, the first loaded the kid and a few bits of luggage and the other, everything else plus guard and MJ. Upon returning to the suite she found the mattress was only stained by what soaked through the sheets and the discarded sheets were completely destroyed with blood smears and droplets everywhere. The blanket was still draped over the chair in the suite where she had questioned the boy and there was blood on it where he sat.



Anecdotal, I realize, but my friend seems the adjusted sort. She was pretty factual when recounting the story to me and hearing her tell it a few times it was always consistent. Creepy shit fer sher.
 

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Preface: I was a kid during the MJ trial in the 00's, the playground jokes and banter were already around MJ being a 'pedo' and ridic stories about how he had sex with bubbles so my opinion may be a little bias due to the media I grew up around. I've always been on the fence about if he 'did it' but in all honesty, I think he did.

Here's my thoughts on the whole thing. Sorry it's a bit of a shambles, I am too lazy to go through this and make it sound clever -

1. Although MJ was deeply disturbed and obviously abused as a child, I don't think that should be a get out of jail free card for him. It seems in a lot of popular discussion the fact he was a 'child in a mans body' is the justification for a lot of his actions, regardless of if he did molest children or not. It's still not right that he spend an abnormal amount of time with children and this was mostly just shrugged off because he was famous. As others have said in this thread, if he was just a regular guy, him being strange with children and acting the way he did would have him on some sort of register. He clearly had some sort of mental disability but again, that does not acquit him from being guilty. There has been so many cases of people with mental health issues, autism and other special needs raping people. Being 'special' does not diminish your capacity to be able to rape. There was a case I read recently where a guy raped a woman and she accused him of rape via text and he told the court he didn't realise she accused him of rape because he couldn't read or write properly. He was found guilty.

2. I seen discussion points in this thread implying it's an oxymoron to assume MJ was slow but had the capacity to conceal this stuff. The people MJ abused loved and respected him and would take Jackson's (probably genuinely terrified) word about keeping their relationships a secret. Almost anyone can be abusive, although he was slow he was not braindead. People have already commented on how victims of abuse react to it so that goes without me repeating it. What I will add is Jackson was a powerful man. His family, reputation in the entertainment industry and on top of it all, his world class legal team would frighten anyone into denying sexual abuse allegations.

3. I'm unsure where I stand on if he sexually abused Macaulay Culkin/Core Feldman/other child stars. I am compelled to think he probably did abuse them but because the backlash from Hollywood and Jackson's lawyers hit them worse than Robson and Safechuck as they were more successful. Feldman and Culkin are both deeply disturbed adults - they may either be in the same kindof denial about the abuse in the same way as Robson and Safechuck were. Although Feldman speaks openly about the abuse of child stars, although admittedly I know little about what his accusations are, the abuse MJ would have given him would have probably appeared as 'love' as opposed to anything nasty. Although I can see the other side too, if MJ was a child molester staying clear of touching his big celebrity friends would be a clever idea. As disgusting as it sounds, I bet paedophiles aren't attracted to every child they see.

4. THE PARENTS. OH my GOD the parents. I agree they were also emotionally abused by MJ, regardless of if he was a molester or not. B U T I can't believe in the early stages that they were just so happy to let their kids fuck off with him. After they knew him a while, yeah, I can see that because by then he had their trust and knew them personally. I think I just have a weird thing about 'stage moms' and pushy parents, it never seems to be for the kids but for the pride of the mothers. It makes me feel very ill to think parents put $$$ over their kids health and wellbeing. Robson's mother gave me chills right at the very start when she actively searched for a number for MJ when she knew they'd be going to America. IIRC, they family were going over because her Wade and his sister were doing some weird dance thing at Disney, which I think just shows what type of person she was as a mother. Nobody but the accused should be blamed for abuse but it's scary to think if the family were a bit less naive that things could be so different.

On a slightly related but funny note I have a great story about a family's interaction with MJ -
In the early 90's, before I was born a family member was security at an MJ gig in the UK. I don't know the ins and outs but said family member managed to score my parents in because it was the 90's and security wasn't as tight at these types of things.

The family member on security got to guard his room. I don't think he met him but he did see MJ. Apparently MJ was a complete neat freak and they had instructions not to touch anything in his room. Almost everything was covered in cling film.

My family member, being the disgusting working class British bloke that he was apparently did a shit in his toilet and didn't flush it.
 
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I can't believe the amount of people on this thread who think it's true simply because Michael was a weird guy..

And yes, Michael was weird. Yes, its creepy. But none of you are bringing actual evidence, logic, reason or facts to this. Just your gut and the account of people whose stories don't add the fuck up. Someone is not guilty of something just because he looks the damn part to you. Read into the damn case instead of saying, "I think he did it because he slept in bed with kids."

I used to seriously think he was guilty too, but then actually researched the damn case for days, listening to hour long podcasts about the case. Do yourself a favor and just EDUCATE yourself on it. I'll link the best videos that give facts. And one poster said they found CP at his ranch? Not true. They found NOTHING. Please, educate your damn selves. And dont give me that I knew someone I LA who can confirm it! Give me a break.





 

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Please, educate your damn selves. And dont give me that I knew someone I LA who can confirm it! Give me a break.
Admittedly anecdotal, but whatevs. Well, don't tear your MJ poster off the wall just yet, but maybe you should read on...

I would like the universe to throw me a goddamn bone and believe he didn't.

Here's your bone:
michael-jackson-photos-naked-children-pornography-neverland-ranch-police-records-leak

items-discovered-police-michael-jackson

This part seemed oddly familiar:

"Evidence Item #510. Disneyland plastic bag containing underclothes and bloodied bed linens."

"They found NOTHING."
...:story:
 

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Did he do it?
I have always felt the answer was no, but think I'm biased because his music's been important to me since childhood. How can I judge a person who's been a personal hero so long? I don't know if I could claim impartiality towards any creator who'd made something I'd found so special.
 

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Did he do it?
I have always felt the answer was no, but think I'm biased because his music's been important to me since childhood. How can I judge a person who's been a personal hero so long? I don't know if I could claim impartiality towards any creator who'd made something I'd found so special.

My problem too. Also, in interviews, he seemed so nice. So nice that you WANT to believe that he's this pure, genuine, caring guy who just wants to help everybody. If that were true, that'd be awesome... because it's almost like no one like that really exists...

So when you hear he's doing one of the worst things ever, you don't want to believe it. At least that's how I felt back in the day.

Also he touched my butthole.
 

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I also have a story about how I met Michael Jackson:

I saw Jackson with a little boy at a store in Los Angeles in 2000. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything.

He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”

I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “hee! hee! hee!” and closing his gloved hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him grab his crotch as I walked off.

When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to moonwalk out the doors with like fifty packs of condoms in his hands without paying.
The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.

When she took one of the packs and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each pack and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by heeheeing really loudly.
 
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Honestly, I mostly even wonder what's the point of this documentary, I cannot shake the feeling only reason this was even made is because of that Fyre Festival documentary on Netflix doing good. The dude has been dead for nearly a decade now, his reputation (outside of music) hasn't always been stellar to begin with and now we suddenly get these two dicksnots popping out with their "allegedly" stuff, with the word itself becoming a bigger buzzword than "Nazi". Quiet frankly, it seems they wanna pull their own idea of "Me too" horseshit and rake in some cash while at it. If they are being honest and it happened, well move the fuck on you twats, to repeat myself: the dude is dead and worm food by this point. Unless he somehow rises from the underworld as Spawn or Ghost Rider, I'm pretty sure he cannot harm anyone.
 

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Involving yourself with other peoples' children as mentor ought not cast aspersions.

Having a sleepover with others' children ought prompt investigation into shady parental behavior.

Receiving money for allowing a man-child to host your children for the night without your presence reeks of prostitution.

The homosexual inclination to pederasty is well known.

MJ behavior is at best problematic.
 

Rabidcolombian

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Admittedly anecdotal, but whatevs. Well, don't tear your MJ poster off the wall just yet, but maybe you should read on...



Here's your bone:
michael-jackson-photos-naked-children-pornography-neverland-ranch-police-records-leak

items-discovered-police-michael-jackson

This part seemed oddly familiar:

"Evidence Item #510. Disneyland plastic bag containing underclothes and bloodied bed linens."

...:story:

Um, yeah, except that police report you linked? That report was found to be utter bullshit

https://www.rollingstone.com/cultur...state-blasts-false-pornography-report-180936/

And we know it's fake because that same police report on a website lists Radar Online as the leaked source.

https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2016/06/21/items-discovered-police-michael-jackson/

Curiously if you try to go to the original link, it's broken. Why is that I wonder?

Same website now admits it was a fuck up

https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2016/09/06/radar-online-pulls-mj-articles/

Better luck next time :story::story::story:
 

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Has anyone asked Blanket if his dad did anything to him besides hanging him off a balcony?
Now that's a lie.

Michael Jackson wasn't Blanket's dad. Some white guy was. Just like his other "kids".

For all we know, Blanket's real father might never've even been accused of a felony.

Honestly, I mostly even wonder what's the point of this documentary, I cannot shake the feeling only reason this was even made is because of that Fyre Festival documentary on Netflix doing good. The dude has been dead for nearly a decade now, his reputation (outside of music) hasn't always been stellar to begin with and now we suddenly get these two dicksnots popping out with their "allegedly" stuff, with the word itself becoming a bigger buzzword than "Nazi". Quiet frankly, it seems they wanna pull their own idea of "Me too" horseshit and rake in some cash while at it. If they are being honest and it happened, well move the fuck on you twats, to repeat myself: the dude is dead and worm food by this point. Unless he somehow rises from the underworld as Spawn or Ghost Rider, I'm pretty sure he cannot harm anyone.
Jacko's reputation has improved more in death than Mao Zedong's. No one in the MSM talked about him being a pedo since he died and went to Hell, until now.

And while there's other dead pedos who aren't getting raked over the coals; such as gospel-music legend Reverend Dr. James Clevaland, who was sued for infecting an underage concubine with HIV; the Clevealand Estate isn't one of the most profitable dead-celebrity institutions of all time.

And that money -- as myself, @MirnaMinkoff, and many others have pointed out -- is going to most of the same people who covered for Jacko's many, many rapes.

Um, yeah, except that police report you linked? That report was found to be utter bullshit

https://www.rollingstone.com/cultur...state-blasts-false-pornography-report-180936/
Except the Estate isn't blasting the Santa Barbara County Police. They're blasting Radar Online.

Radar Online weren't the ones who discovered bloody underwear; a several-hundred dollar Larry Stevens gay sex manual named Man: A Sexual History of Man that isn't available for viewing on the Internet, nor for purchase on Amazon; legal naturist magazines filled with naked boys that only exist for the same reason magazines like Jaybird existed before the '70s; straight pornography designed to arouse curiosity and eventually horrify the discoverers, from Playboys to the brown showers tape found in Jacko's bedroom; and, assuming you clicked on the last link, the most damning of all, Jacko's semen was found only on the naturist magazines featuring little boys.

But you didn't do that, because you don't care about the truth.

And we know it's fake because that same police report on a website lists Radar Online as the leaked source.

https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2016/06/21/items-discovered-police-michael-jackson/
But the Estate isn't taking action against the SBCP, they're taking action against Radar Online.

If any of the things I listed were planted by the cops who actually did the raid, the SBCP would be fucked harder than Eric Trump's mouth at age eleven.
 
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I can't believe the amount of people on this thread who think it's true simply because Michael was a weird guy..

And yes, Michael was weird. Yes, its creepy. But none of you are bringing actual evidence, logic, reason or facts to this. Just your gut and the account of people whose stories don't add the fuck up. Someone is not guilty of something just because he looks the damn part to you. Read into the damn case instead of saying, "I think he did it because he slept in bed with kids."

I used to seriously think he was guilty too, but then actually researched the damn case for days, listening to hour long podcasts about the case. Do yourself a favor and just EDUCATE yourself on it. I'll link the best videos that give facts. And one poster said they found CP at his ranch? Not true. They found NOTHING. Please, educate your damn selves. And dont give me that I knew someone I LA who can confirm it! Give me a break.





MJ fans are the worst.

Here's the reasons he didn't do it, according to them.

  1. He's black
  2. He's God
  3. He's a child himself
  4. He liked women
  5. He was too talented
  6. He was too slow
  7. He could moon walk
 

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So I watched the whole thing. It's pretty damning. I have no doubt that MJ did it.

But I also shaking my head because how stupid his victims are. They had tons of opportunities to come forward. But they did it when it was already to late. Fucking idiots.
 
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