Did MJ actually diddle kids? -

[serious n00b]

At the very least, you could tell he was doing "something".

 

[king_tiktaalik]

The fact that so many people who I know for certain do horrific shit to children regularly in the media attempt to paint him as a monster seems to imply that he was, at the very least, "less guilty" than the rest of them.

 

[Jazz never died!]

I know he acted like an adult child due to his strict upbringing as for the child molestation no he didn't. It's all a media wanting controversy so they can rake in the dough.

 

[Autumnal Equinox]

Yes. Next question

 

[CivilianOfTheFandomWars]

He is one of the very few cases where I honestly, gun to head, Bible in hand, lie detector on, have no fucking idea.
There's more crazy shit surrounding this than JFK, I can't even get a gut feeling on it man...

 

[s0mbra]

The fact that so many people who I know for certain do horrific shit to children regularly in the media attempt to paint him as a monster seems to imply that he was, at the very least, "less guilty" than the rest of them.

Call me tinfoil hat, but I believe they were just looking for someone to throw under the bus to get away with their ownshit, so they picked the weird guy who was that way bc his own childhood was fucked up.

 

[Michael Jacks0n]

No.

 

[Rusty Crab]

Probably not. Razorfist has some genuinely good videos on this. You already have the 'mainstream' side of the story. He presents the other side.

 

[Jazz never died!]

Yes. Next question

Don't belive the mass produced lies and trust the man whom lived in a theme park and climbs trees won't fondle the kiddies.

Probably not. Razorfist has some genuinely good videos on this. You already have the 'mainstream' side of the story. He presents the other side.

One of the few good Razorfist vids

 

[Admiral Mantoid]

He was definitely a weirdo with kids, and its not surprising considering how fucked and sad his life was. But I don't think he diddled anyone. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if he was afraid of sexual antics considering the places his father took him to and the things he forced MJ to see and possibly do when he was barely able to walk.

 

[Dom Cruise]

I've thought about this a lot but I think at the end of the day, no, he didn't take things as far as actually molesting kids.

He was an adult who suffered very badly from arrested development and wanted to still be a kid himself, this lead him to do with things that are probably still inappropriate for an adult man to do with kids not his own, like sleeping in the same bed.

They also found pornographic magazines at Neverland Ranch, so he probably did the thing boys do around puberty and giggle at dirty pictures, expect one of them was an adult man, not a 13 year old boy.

So he did some inappropriate things, but I don't think he actually molested any kids.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

Macaulay Caulkin has maintained that even though he was over at Neverland Ranch multiple times, MJ never touched him or made any attempts. And why would he lie? If MJ was paying him off, his dad would have taken it all so he could have used that in his lawsuit against his parents and destroyed their case by saying he was pimped out.

So, no, I don't believe MJ touched the kids. Got weirdly close to them? Maybe. But in his messed up head, it was all innocent, so I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt.

 

[GeorgeFloyd]

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xi63s6

Katt Williams said it best

 

[Beautiful Border]

These days I just assume that every celebrity from the 80s was a nonce and I'm usually proven right

 

[Nick Gars]

He was a weirdo thanks to his upbringing, but I seriously doubt he diddled anyone. As @s0mbra said, he was probably a scapegoat for other sick fucks, and I also personally believe he was an easy target for hucksters to make a quick buck off of.

 

[Plank]

What is astonishing about the people who still cling to the 'he must have done something' type crap is just how unbelievably lazy they are or they simply want to cling to the media stereotype.

Anyone with just a basic set of critical thinking skills who want to not make themselves look foolish by clinging to crap they read on the Internet or heard on TV would do this tiny bit of effort:

Claim: MJ slept in the same bed as his child guest
You: Wow, that is sounds but it is a strong claim.
-two minutes of search later-
You: Oh , his 'bedroom' is two stories and the size of a normal condo. If they are lying about that, what else are they lying about?

 

[Niggernerd]

He was definitely a weirdo with kids, and its not surprising considering how fucked and sad his life was. But I don't think he diddled anyone. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if he was afraid of sexual antics considering the places his father took him to and the things he forced MJ to see and possibly do when he was barely able to walk.

Apparently his dad made him and his brothers have sex with the prostitutes

 

[Screamer]

MJ's like the caricature you'd make up of someone who diddles kids. Are actual pedo's anything like MJ? When you read about diddlers with access to children, it's always a large number of victims. Yet we don't have that with MJ.

I suspect he was probably pretty a-sexual. Which came from being chemically castrated as a child. If that is correct. By all accounts, he had no interest in sex despite being a rich famous person who would have been able to access endless sex.

That said, I could imagine he did stuff that was complete inappropriate around kids for an adult, but not diddling.

 

[OfficerBagget]

Michael himself was molested and exposed to sexual acts at a young age, most kid diddlers were. At the very least he was very inappropriate around young children in the privacy of his own Million dollar property.

It's also not far fetched to believe he paid off the parents to look the other way. They are only speaking out now because they're arnt getting their checks anymore.

 

[Eggsy]

I honestly have no idea but there were plenty of signs that he may have been a paedo. It's also reasonable to assume that some false allegations may have been brought up against him to extort money out of him. Both could be true at the same time.

Macaulay Caulkin has maintained that even though he was over at Neverland Ranch multiple times, MJ never touched him or made any attempts.

So? Just because he didn't molest Macaulay Caulkin (a massive celebrity at the time) doesn't mean he couldn't have touched any of the other countless, non-famous children he had access to.

Probably not. Razorfist has some genuinely good videos on this. You already have the 'mainstream' side of the story. He presents the other side.

Not watching the whole video because tl;dr and the guy is annoying, but to address his first point about the pornography, this website goes into detail of the two books found locked in a filing cabinet in his bedroom, and it's a very disturbing and eye-opening read. This compounded with his strange fixation on adolescence and his inappropriate relationship with boys, I think, gives plenty cause for concern.