Did Toy Story 4 suck shit? -

[Dom Cruise]

Bo Peep is turned into a typical "strong female" character, meanwhile Buzz Lightyear is turned into an idiot for no real reason.

The female villain gets everything she wants and never has to face any consequences for her villainous actions, we're supposed to just sympathize with her because... she's female? That's a great message to send to little girls "hey girls, feel free to cheat and manipulate your way to what you want out of life, you deserve it because girl power!", contrast that with the male villains of 2 and 3 who get their comeuppance.

And the friendship between Woody and Buzz, the defining aspect of the series, is broken up in favor of Woody following the strong female character instead, I mean WTF?

And as the cherry on top, Woody, who is a male toy that was feeling irrelevant and replaced, then uses his "privilege" to help other toys in need, are you getting the message, yet?

So yeah, I feel like people let this movie slide more than they should have, when it's clearly another example of Woke trashing a classic franchise, Toy Story 3 was the perfect ending and as far as I'm concerned Toy Story is a trilogy, that's it.

 

[SteelPlatedHeart]

I mean, I already felt a 4th was completely unnecessary, and I don’t think it was as good as the other three, but I do think they did an okay job with giving Woody a new purpose.

Even if the only reason he needed a new one was because of this movie. And it was nice to get the Bo Peep thing resolved after not being in 3.

 

[Xolanite]

there’s a 4th movie?

 

[SmugAutist]

I have made it a point to never watch it. Gonna powerlevel a bit but Toy Story 1 and 2 were my favorite movies when I was growing up. My mother used to play them nonstop so much that the VHS got fucked twice and they had to buy more. I loved those movies and I managed to watch the third just as I was entering high-school, so that ending with Andy leaving behind his childhood was great. I thought the third movie ended perfectly, there was no need to make another movie. So the moment I became aware that there was going to be a fourth one, I refused to get involved with it in any way.

My mother wanted us to go together to watch it for nostalgia's sake during a visit to my parent's place. I refused again and she went with my younger sister. She later told me that I made the correct decision.

Guys, when Hollywood reboots or remakes or makes a sequel with wokeness in mind or even just as a cash grab, it's OK to say no.

 

[Govt. Shitposting Machine]

I wouldn't say it sucked shit but the movies story changed absolutely nothing in the universe that Toy Story set up and at best it was only made to sell plastic fork toys and knockoff beanie babies.
If anything, it felt more like a movie for the parents to watch with their kid with the message that it gave out, that whole "You can move onto do different things after you raise your children" kind of vibe the movie gives off. It's not like the usual audience of those kind of Disney movies are actually remember the first three anyway.
Also Bo Beeps ass is dummy fucking thick for no reason what the FUCK Disney.

 

[JoshPlz]

I have a feeling that you guys won't like the 5th movie, in which Andy transitions and the toys end up getting repurposed as troon-hole dilators.

 

[Richard Harrow]

Word through the vine is that the "Spork" character is supposed to be troon representation. Ya know: Is it a spoon? A fork? Why not both? It's "Utensil Fluid"

 

[Dom Cruise]

I mean, I already felt a 4th was completely unnecessary, and I don’t think it was as good as the other three, but I do think they did an okay job with giving Woody a new purpose.

Even if the only reason he needed a new one was because of this movie. And it was nice to get the Bo Peep thing resolved after not being in 3.

It's at best totally unnecessary, putting all the politics aside it just didn't deliver as well in the adventure and the humor departments.

Even if it didn't have the politics it would still have mucked up what was a perfect ending, Hollywood really needs to know when to say when.

I have made it a point to never watch it. Gonna powerlevel a bit but Toy Story 1 and 2 were my favorite movies when I was growing up. My mother used to play them nonstop so much that the VHS got fucked twice and they had to buy more. I loved those movies and I managed to watch the third just as I was entering high-school, so that ending with Andy leaving behind his childhood was great. I thought the third movie ended perfectly, there was no need to make another movie. So the moment I became aware that there was going to be a fourth one, I refused to get involved with it in any way.

My mother wanted us to go together to watch it for nostalgia's sake during a visit to my parent's place. I refused again and she went with my younger sister. She later told me that I made the correct decision.

Guys, when Hollywood reboots or remakes or makes a sequel with wokeness in mind or even just as a cash grab, it's OK to say no.

You're not missing much by skipping it.

It's hard to let the things you love go though, I was definitely going to see the movie out of curiosity sake, it's kind of upsetting looking back because I remember stepping out into the parking lot of the movie theater all excited that I was about to see a new Toy Story movie, Toy Story means a hell of a lot to me, the first movie is second only to Jurassic Park as the movie I watched the most as a kid.

I just wanted one last good time with those characters, but most of the original characters are barely in the movie and I really hated what they did to Buzz Lightyear, they always got to take a dump on characters boys idolize these days, like Luke Skywalker in the Last Jedi.

Word through the vine is that the "Spork" character is supposed to be troon representation. Ya know: Is it a spoon? A fork? Why not both? It's "Utensil Fluid"

Wouldn't surprise me, every single movie these days has got to have it's little political messaging, on the rare occasions I watch a modern movie even if it's something I still find kind of entertaining there's always the obvious political messages and even though they're often disagreeable messages at the very least it takes you right out of the movie and reminds you you're living in "current year"

Older movies are just so damn refreshing to watch now because there's none of that shit.

 

[Jewelsmakerguy]

The movie's the literal definition of "unnecessary sequel." Sure the animation looks great (It's Pixar and 2019, it kind of has to), but everything else feels half-baked or just a horrible idea on paper. The spork is one-note and outstays his welcome after his first scenes, as do the Rabbit/Chick duo. And while the idea of Bo doing something with her life between movies 2 and 3 is an interesting one, the execution in this day and age? It's clearly meant for the "work feminist" crowd and not something that seems natural.

Can't believe I'm saying this, but I kind of wish the Circle 7 script was put into production as something of a side-story. It might not have been great, but the story definitely had better ideas and concepts than this film that they could have fleshed out.

 

[Duncan Hills Coffee]

I have made it a point to never watch it. Gonna powerlevel a bit but Toy Story 1 and 2 were my favorite movies when I was growing up. My mother used to play them nonstop so much that the VHS got fucked twice and they had to buy more. I loved those movies and I managed to watch the third just as I was entering high-school, so that ending with Andy leaving behind his childhood was great. I thought the third movie ended perfectly, there was no need to make another movie. So the moment I became aware that there was going to be a fourth one, I refused to get involved with it in any way.

This is the exact same situation with me and the exact same reason I avoided Toy Story 4.

3's ending was pitch perfect. It was at once bittersweet and touching, and a perfect capstone to the trilogy. Personally a lot of that power came from the fact that I grew up on these movies and the third one just happened to come out as I was leaving childhood, but even so, on a pure emotional level there's no need to make anything beyond that.

It was a powerful story about ultimately letting go, which is ironically something the filmmakers didn't heed when they decided to continue the story at all.

 

[R00T]

Guys, when Hollywood reboots or remakes or makes a sequel with wokeness in mind or even just as a cash grab, it's OK to say no.

B-but I am a consumer and I must consume!

 

[Nguyen Van Phuoc]

I never watched the fourth movie, but the third one was a perfectly good way to end the trilogy and let everyone live happily ever after. The fourth movie always seemed like a way to make a cheap profit.

 

[Tootsie Bear]

The original plot to Toy Story 3 would had been better than Toy Story 4.

Jim Herzfeld wrote a script for Circle 7's version of the movie. It focused on the other toys shipping a malfunctioning Buzz to Taiwan, where he was built, believing that he'll be fixed there. While searching on the internet, they find out that many more Buzz Lightyear toys are malfunctioning around the world and the company has issued a massive recall. Fearing Buzz's destruction, a group of Andy's toys (Woody, Rex, Slinky, Mr. Potato Head, Hamm, Jessie, and Bullseye) attempt to rescue Buzz. At the same time, Buzz meets other toys from around the world that were once loved, but have now been recalled.

 

[JuanButNotForgotten]

Never going to touch that one, because the third was a perfect conclusion for the story. TBQH, it was like the last season of Samurai Jack - not so much for children in general, but more for the children who'd watched previous instalments and has grown up during the hiatus. You know, like final resolution, perfect goodbye. Even if part 4 would've been any good, I see no point in checking it.

 

[Pickle Dick]

It's really telling that I keep forgetting that Toy Story 4 exists while I fondly remember the first three films.

 

[SteelPlatedHeart]

Honestly, I really want to watch 3 again now.

 

[naught sock account 1]

not the worst animated movie out there... but not a great sequel...

https://rarbg.to/s/Toy+Story%3A+4+2019/

 

[Xarpho]

Never going to touch that one, because the third was a perfect conclusion for the story. TBQH, it was like the last season of Samurai Jack - not so much for children in general, but more for the children who'd watched previous instalments and has grown up during the hiatus. You know, like final resolution, perfect goodbye. Even if part 4 would've been any good, I see no point in checking it.

It was, especially beginning and ending with the clouds, and follows Woody's own character arc: the fear of being replaced by someone else, the fear of falling apart and being useless to everyone, and finally the fear of what happens when the world around you changes and you don't.

The movie was released at an interesting time in Pixar's history, as it capped off a string of great movies (Ratatouille, WALL-E, Up) right before the bad/mediocre movies started (Cars 2, Brave, Monsters University) and really hasn't let up.

 

[Scarlett Johansson]

3 ended perfectly
They really fucked it up

 

[Jump Jet Fanny]

The voicebox scene was disturbing. Kazuo Ishiguro meets Reservoir Dogs for kids.