Disability fetishists -

CalmMyTits

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I'm talking about these people who want to be disabled, or who like pretending they're disabled, or are attracted to people just because of their disability.

Some people like to disable themselves for a while, like wearing a blindfold, or earplugs, or binding their arm or leg in a way that they can't use it. Some people even go so far as to actually try disable themselves permanently, and this usually ends up badly because no sane/responsible/ethical doctor will just amputate your limb, or sever your spine, or some such because you ask them to. I saw part of a documentary about a woman who bought a wheelchair, she liked not using her legs and she said she was looking for a doctor who would sever the bottom of her spine so she would never be able to use her legs again. On an episode of Jerry Springer, there was this man who mutilated both of his legs to the point that a doctor was forced to amputate them. He had already sought an amputation, but the doctors said no, so he had to self-harm himself to get the amputations he wanted.

I know some of these people do it because they like feeding off other people's sympathy, but is it really worth it permanently mutilating yourself? I say hell no.

Then you have people who are attracted to disabled people, not for their personality or whatever, but for their disability. For some people it's the thrill of 'helping' the disabled person (like Munchausen's by proxy) In a healthy relationship with a disabled person, the abled person does what he or she can to help the disabled person live as independently as they can. But for a person with a 'helper' fetish, they do what they can to make sure the disabled person needs their help as much as possible. For example, placing items on a high shelf out of the reach of a wheelchair-bound person so that the disabled person HAS to ask for help.

It just befuddles me how someone can find a disability so fascinating or sexy. I mean, if a guy asked me out on a date and he was in a wheelchair or missing a limb, I'd go out with him if he asked me nicely, had a funny personality, etc. But I'm not going to obsess over his disability or find it sexy. I'd treat him like I treat any other man, except for obvious expectations (I wouldn't ask a wheelchair-bound man to come jogging with me, for example) I have my own disability, and I looked up the fetish surrounding my disability, and the comments made by people on message boards and etc just creep me the fuck out, and I find it utterly demeaning, and I know other people with various disabilities feel the same about people who fetishize their disability. it's like with ABDL's and feeder/inflation fetishists, this makes me go WTF. And like with these two things I just mentioned, there's a disturbing amount of artwork on DA of people (mostly girls) with missing limbs.
 

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Sometimes I imagine what life would be like as a disabled person. One time I was swimming and wondered what it would be like to only have one leg to swim with.

However, I never wanted to make myself disabled in any matter. I think people who want that are in need of serious help
 

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Yeah, I don't really understand why anyone would personally attempt to disable themselves. I'd imagine it would seem especially stupid to those who didn't choose to be handicapped.
 

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Slightly off topic but I once saw a girl on a dating site who was pretty cute and I noticed that she was always sitting in her profile pic. I thought "She must like sitting down." Turns out she had a wheelchair and I didn't notice :3.
 

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People who identify as a disabled person call themselves 'transabled'. It's just as offensive and belittling as things like transethnic, but with the added bonus of being actively draining to the disabled community, as idiots who want to be victims/special/noticed take wheelchairs and mobility scooters.
 

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Yes, I agree that using the transabled label is offensive. Pretty much any trans label besides transsexual or transgendered is offensive to me. You have transfat, transabled, transpecies, transethnic, etc. It's just a way to be a special snowflake. Yes, disabled people get certain privileges like handicapped parking spots, but any disabled person I know (myself included) would give up what few privileges we have to be a normal, full-abled person. Honestly, the few privileges I can enjoy (not having to listen to a baby scream his head off if I just turn my hearing aid off, for example) are small compared to all the things that a hearing person take for granted.

As for Katawa Shoujo? FUCK NO. I read about this game a while ago, and it's just a stupid fetish game. If a person really wants to understand what it is like being disabled, they need to talk to a disabled person and ask them about the negative aspects of living with a disability and how frustrating it can be because a truly disabled person can't stop playing the game, they're stuck that way for life while people who pretend to be disabled can go back to being normal any time.
 

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From what I have read (which is extensive), "transabled" people aren't fetishists. They legitimately have a mental illness or brain anomaly that makes them feel as though their body needs to be disabled in a specific (usually VERY specific, e.g. paralyzed from a certain vertebra down) way. It's more or less the same thing as the people who feel like they need to have a limb amputated. Most likely it's a problem with the brain-body map. Also a lot of transabled people are already disabled in other ways. It's a bit more legitimate, IMO, than all the various Tumblr "trans[insert ridiculous thing here]" identities.

I've been friends with a couple of "devotees" (disability fetishists) over the years and they are a horribly misogynistic bunch. They like to portray their fetish as being about worshiping and doting on helpless disabled women, which is pretty sexist and dehumanizing in itself, but then they turn around and make comments like "I like smart girls, just not smarter than me". They're a little bit like pickup artists, now that I think about it. I think the fact that a lot of physically disabled people have low self esteem is a turn-on for them. Ugh. Getting creeped out just thinking about it.
 

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I have a crush on a guy who has back problems to the point where he limps. Sometimes I imagine about caring for him. Like helping him leave his office at the end of the day, walking him to his car.

Yeah I'm pretty fucked up. That's as far as it goes though.
 

CalmMyTits

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I know that transabled are not the same as people with BIID, but I thought it would be easier to just place it all here in this thread because it's about wanting to be disabled, or pretending to be one, regardless of whether it's wanting to be a special snowflake or having some fucked-up brain wiring.
 

Picklepower

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One of my good friends LOVES that game, Katawa Shoujo, for a while I could not get him to shut up about it lol. It sounded really depressing to me, so Ive never played it.

scorptatious said:
Himawari said:
Thoughts on Katawa Shoujo?

"Anal"

Yeah my friend told me about that part. Me and him are in to such different kinds of anime, I like stuff like, Fist of the Northstar, Golgo 13, Mazinger Z etc, He likes all the stuff about pretty girls. But occasionally we will end up liking the same thing, like Witchblade, or FMA.
 

Himawari

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I can understand and totally empathize with wanting to figure out a completely unique spin to put onto a game, so I certainly can't fault Katawa Shoujo for that alone, but it's just... the execution, I guess?

I mean, I haven't played it, though I probably will at one point. Narrative-based games like visual novels and dating sims are a big passion of mine, so I'd like to try playing as many different approaches as I can, even if they piss me off (like Amnesia did) (I'm not talking about the horror game, I mean the girls' dating sim that implied that it was SO romantic and chivalrous for a bachelor to keep the main character in a cage to "keep her safe from harm"). But from what I've read, it just seems like so many of the girls' personalities and development are based solely on their disabilities and, in some cases, the circumstances surrounding how they became that way, you know? I mean I think that real-world disabled people would have plenty more facets to themselves that don't have the least to do with whatever disability they may have.

And of course there's the attitude that "lolol I'm making/playing a game about dating disabled girls it's so different/edgy/hilarious." Just, no.

Also I don't understand the girl with the facial scar who survived a house fire because her mom shielded her with her body, wouldn't that theoretically make her die of asphyxiation quicker??
 

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Picklepower said:
scorptatious said:
Himawari said:
Thoughts on Katawa Shoujo?

"Anal"

Yeah my friend told me about that part. Me and him are in to such different kinds of anime, I like stuff like, Fist of the Northstar, Golgo 13, Mazinger Z etc, He likes all the stuff about pretty girls. But occasionally we will end up liking the same thing, like Witchblade, or FMA.

I LOVE Fullmetal Alchemist. I've never watched Brotherhood though. I've only watched the original anime, and read the manga. From what I've seen, the newer one focuses a lot more on the manga, so I never really brought myself to watch it partly for that reason. The other reason is because of laziness. (:_(

Anyway, I found Katawa Shoujo to be very enjoyable. I remember when I first heard about it, I thought it was going to be some sick and perverted exploitation game like Rapeplay or something like that.

Boy was I wrong. Sure, the sex scenes were pretty graphic, but I felt they were (for lack of a better word) tastefully done and the characters were very well written.
 
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Fetishes aren't really supposed to make sense. There's no logic to being attracted to breasts anymore than being attracted to disabilities.
 

Himawari

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DEFINITELY give Brotherhood a watch (that goes to anyone, really, not just scorptatious). I recently rewatched it/half-watched for the first time (I had skipped a bunch of episodes during airing because I had read the manga), because it's currently being reviewed on Mark Watches and I got too engrossed to pace myself with Mark, haha. It has its flaws and makes some unfortunate cuts from the manga, but overall it's amazing, and a real treat to see the manga scenes animated.

(Though if you try commenting on Mark's site, be warned that it's a SJW-ish kind of community. It isn't so bad because you're discussing animu, not privilege shit generally, but I've gotten reprimanded for colloquially using the words "dumb" and "crazy" because they're "ableist slurs.")
 

CalmMyTits

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raymond said:
Fetishes aren't really supposed to make sense. There's no logic to being attracted to breasts anymore than being attracted to disabilities.

I have to disagree on it. Some things people enjoy, like cosplay, or boobs, or etc don't harm anyone. But then you have fetishes that can actually end up harming you, like coprophilia, weight gain, cutting off your limb, etc. There's safe/sane fetishes, and fetishes that... are not.
 
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CalmMyTits said:
raymond said:
Fetishes aren't really supposed to make sense. There's no logic to being attracted to breasts anymore than being attracted to disabilities.

I have to disagree on it. Some things people enjoy, like cosplay, or boobs, or etc don't harm anyone. But then you have fetishes that can actually end up harming you, like coprophilia, weight gain, cutting off your limb, etc. There's safe/sane fetishes, and fetishes that... are not.

Drawing disability fetish art doesn't hurt anyone. At most it offends people.
And if a person decides to amputate their own legs for a fetish, it's because they're insane, and allowed their fetish to take over their lives.
 

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raymond said:
Fetishes aren't really supposed to make sense. There's no logic to being attracted to breasts anymore than being attracted to disabilities.

I have to disagree too, especially regarding "helpers". It feels like helpers are turned on knowing the fact that they have so much control over the disabled person in question. Think about it, control and dominance are two thriving forces in the fetish community, being in the role of caretaker fits that bill perfectly.
 

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random_pickle said:
raymond said:
Fetishes aren't really supposed to make sense. There's no logic to being attracted to breasts anymore than being attracted to disabilities.

I have to disagree too, especially regarding "helpers". It feels like helpers are turned on knowing the fact that they have so much control over the disabled person in question. Think about it, control and dominance are two thriving forces in the fetish community, being in the role of caretaker fits that bill perfectly.

Ugh, maybe its just because I have a disability (even if it is just autism) myself, but I hate these helpers... a good relationship is supposed to be one that is mutually improving each other while these people aren't improving anything. Even with this whole dominating thing, the submissive still supposed to have some control over what the dominant can and can't do. The power each of them have in a dom/sub relationship is more equal than one may expect and if one person just wants to completely dominate without any self-control and/or no regards to the other person therefore taking all of the power and control (because the submissive setting down limits is indeed a form of power), they are obviously doing it wrong.
 
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