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Sergeant Politeness

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Gonna sound old and ornery as fuck, but it's like they forget there was a time when the only emotes available were the ones you had to make out of your keyboard ( :[ :] D: :-) :-( etc. )
Those are usually the only ones I use. Of course, we're rapidly returning to hieroglyphics as a viable method of communication, so I don't know. Words are hard, need emojis to communicate the amount of even that I can't right now.
 

Luigi

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Ok, I never heard about this BTTV system before, but I know what custom emojis are on discord (something only Nitro users could cross-post), and this BTTV system could bypass the limitation?

When I first read the OP I thought "oh, this is probably from a time before custom emojis became Nitro-only" but after realizing it was from TODAY I got really confused. Is it just poor wording ("you have to pay for global emotes through Nitro now"), or is this something that actually affects anyone who doesn't watch Let's-Players?
 

Sergeant Politeness

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Ok, I never heard about this BTTV system before, but I know what custom emojis are on discord (something only Nitro users could cross-post), and this BTTV system could bypass the limitation?

When I first read the OP I thought "oh, this is probably from a time before custom emojis became Nitro-only" but after realizing it was from TODAY I got really confused. Is it just poor wording ("you have to pay for global emotes through Nitro now"), or is this something that actually affects anyone who doesn't watch Let's-Players?
No, this affects global emotes. Ignore my poor wording and Nitro for a moment; using the Twitch integration, people could use these global emotes everywhere, which was absolutely not what they were meant for. This doesn't affect Nitro's global emotes nor does it affect the server-specific custom ones (which can't be used outside of that server), only the global emotes that come from one of these servers.

For a time, you could simply join a server and then use their emotes anywhere because it was added through BTTV, not Discord. That's stopped now, and people are upset.
 

Luigi

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No, this affects global emotes. Ignore my poor wording and Nitro for a moment; using the Twitch integration, people could use these global emotes everywhere, which was absolutely not what they were meant for. This doesn't affect Nitro's global emotes nor does it affect the server-specific custom ones (which can't be used outside of that server), only the global emotes that come from one of these servers.

For a time, you could simply join a server and then use their emotes anywhere because it was added through BTTV, not Discord. That's stopped now, and people are upset.
So it was made so streamers could use specific emojis from their discord server/twitch channel integration?

It still sounds like they were exploiting the system that was poorly coded in good faith.
 

Sergeant Politeness

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So it was made so streamers could use specific emojis from their discord server/twitch channel integration?

It still sounds like they were exploiting the system that was poorly coded in good faith.
Which is why it's all so entitled. This was meant for streamers with communities to add in little goodies and memes for their viewers, and then people exploited it. Now that this "feature" is being taken away, people are pretending Discord is the bad guy.
 

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So apparently, Better Twitch TV Emoticons, or BTTV, shut down global emote servers for Discord. If you don't use Discord, BTTV is a way for streamers to add personal emotes to their Twitch streams, and they had this integrated into Discord. Problem is, people were making Twitch accounts just to add custom emotes and use them on any server. As a result, you saw massive "emote-only" servers with no purpose other than to allow people to use global emotes of a certain type, and it was clogging their system.

Very recently, Discord removed this functionality, and you have to pay for global emotes through Nitro now. Naturally, people aren't pleased.

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This is the least bad thing Discord has done. I cant even be mad at them.
 

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Which is why it's all so entitled. This was meant for streamers with communities to add in little goodies and memes for their viewers, and then people exploited it. Now that this "feature" is being taken away, people are pretending Discord is the bad guy.

Isn't the issue that this exploit caused floods of traffic to these third party sites that were meant to handle much less? Can't people just manually install these wanted things to their own servers? Or, if they really feel they must, have a group of people get together and pool resources to make their own server with a library of these things? Of course, they'd have to pay for it themselves and not just soak up someone else's resources.

I can't imagine emojis themselves take up much bandwidth, but with how much fucking idiots use these things, they're probably getting thousands of open connections a second. Or more. I have no idea how much crap Discord traffic generates, but I'd have to imagine a lot.

I'd imagine if they took such an unpopular action, which they probably knew would be unpopular, they had to have been getting some nasty bills, decided fuck this shit, and shut it down.
 

Sergeant Politeness

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Isn't the issue that this exploit caused floods of traffic to these third party sites that were meant to handle much less? Can't people just manually install these wanted things to their own servers? Or, if they really feel they must, have a group of people get together and pool resources to make their own server with a library of these things? Of course, they'd have to pay for it themselves and not just soak up someone else's resources.

I can't imagine emojis themselves take up much bandwidth, but with how much fucking idiots use these things, they're probably getting thousands of open connections a second. Or more. I have no idea how much crap Discord traffic generates, but I'd have to imagine a lot.

I'd imagine if they took such an unpopular action, which they probably knew would be unpopular, they had to have been getting some nasty bills, decided fuck this shit, and shut it down.
Discord has millions of active users and is streaming audio and video chats now. Yeah, it must get pretty expensive. Emotes, probably not as much. As for if it's just easier to add them to your own server, sure, but you only get 50 slots per server. Adding them manually to every one you can (assuming you even have access to the raw PNGs) is far more of a hassle than just joining a server and being able to use it everywhere.

I'm not sure what their motives were on this, but the original feature was added in good faith that Twitch streamers would use it and everyone else would ignore it. Even if it was the most cynical ploy to get people to use Nitro ever, though, I still wouldn't be upset.
 

Sergeant Politeness

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How does Discord make money? I know the answer right now is probably "they don't" but what's the long range forecast on that. Weekly extortion payments to keep the chats private?
They said they'd support it with user customization, namely sticker packs, client skins (good luck on that, assholes, you're running a skinned Chromium for a client), and Nitro. In essence, they have no business plan. Services like this only work in the long term when they have some major parent company to bleed money off of (like Google with YouTube and Microsoft with Skype).
 

Sergeant Politeness

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Things have cooled down a lot, and people are starting to ask for other things, like :Thonk: as an official emote and being able to pay for Nitro with PayPal and Bitcoin.
On the downside, I can't use :BlobSnuggle: anymore.
On the upside, seeing people get so upset over it is hilarious.
The blob servers are splitting up, after some bitching that they were still allowed infinite emotes, so now there's three with the limit of 50 that everyone else gets. They also released all the blobs as a ZIP for people to use on their own servers.

Is this the part where I ping a mod and get them to lock the thread because there's no more salt?
 

Slamerella

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Here are some better options
Using reaction images
Getting your own server (It's free!) and make your own emotes to use anywhere
If you admin or are friends with a server, steal someone else's emotes for that server
Man up, because whining over not able to be using a terrible Touhou character who doesn't even have portrait art and overshadows all the other characters in Mountain of Faith going "awooooo" hat is not the worst thing that could happen to you.

seriously fuck momiji
 
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