Discuss the feasibility of an armed rebellion in the continental United States -

[MundaneFaggot]

Jim's really LARPING on Twitter about a "resistance". Most people who have guns will acquiesce because times change and we don't need guns like we used to. We'll survive without McMachineGuns.

He's really overestimating how far a few hicks in the hills will go. And if they actually manage to do some damage, the government (and their Lord and savior Trump) will stamp out Y'allQueda.

 

[ScamL Likely]

Jim's really LARPING on Twitter about a "resistance". Most people who have guns will acquiesce because times change and we don't need guns like we used to. We'll survive without McMachineGuns.

He's really overestimating how far a few hicks in the hills will go. And if they actually manage to do some damage, the government (and their Lord and savior Trump) will stamp out Y'allQueda.

I'd say you're overestimating how far a few limp-wristed politicians will be willing to go in states with significant populations of rowdy gun-toting hillbillies.

 

[MundaneFaggot]

I'd say you're overestimating how far a few limp-wristed politicians will be willing to go in states with significant populations of rowdy gun-toting hillbillies.

They can live in the woods and shake their sticks while society goes on without them. It won't be hard to prove how racist most of those gun-toting hillbillies are, so they'll lose the court of public opinion real quick. The government will knock some sense into those militias real quick.

 

[ScamL Likely]

All I'm going to say is you're going to be in for a rude awakening one day lmao.

 

[Piranha Pleb]

They can live in the woods and shake their sticks while society goes on without them. It won't be hard to prove how racist most of those gun-toting hillbillies are, so they'll lose the court of public opinion real quick. The government will knock some sense into those militias real quick.

Go read up on the Cuban Revolution, The Second Indochinese War, The scene from ROTJ where the Ewoks fight back and literally any Guerrilla conflict ever. Little people can do lots of damage with practically nothing, especially trained Militias.

 

[Goku 1000000 O]

The national guard thing will never happen. Theres an instance in the fifties where the Arkansas Governor tried to use the guard to prevent integration but the President just federalized that state’s national guard.

I’m honestly shocked that Dems would even openly float that though. Fucking clown shit.

3 weeks and no new weather still, Jim.

 

[dopy]

They can live in the woods and shake their sticks while society goes on without them. It won't be hard to prove how racist most of those gun-toting hillbillies are, so they'll lose the court of public opinion real quick. The government will knock some sense into those militias real quick.

vietnam
afghanistan
iraq
cuba
cartels on the border ("war on drugs")

 

[Get_your_kicks_with_30-06]

They can live in the woods and shake their sticks while society goes on without them. It won't be hard to prove how racist most of those gun-toting hillbillies are, so they'll lose the court of public opinion real quick. The government will knock some sense into those militias real quick.

You really are a faggot that is quite mundane. Go suck some fed cock while we gun toters have fun.

 

[The best and greatest]

Why bother worrying about the military when the state intelligence apparatus will get to you before you can organize effectively?

 

[Emperor Julian]

The entire premise relies on the USA not being the evil regime and fighting you fair and square, any really modern cold blooded regime isnt going to be phased by rednecks with guns. Protraced warfare against a modern state requires a completely differant skill set, not in the least because if they're really nasty they might shoot your family.

 

[TheYellowKing]

There's never going to be a civil war in the modern US like the first American civil war. Something along the lines of the Lebanese civil war or modern day Iraq or Syria is much more likely where there are hundreds of different factions and militias all forming provisional alliances which melt away just as quickly as they form.

Forming groups without effective government interference happens all the time, there are countless sovereign citizen, Wignat, antifa, tankie, NOI and 3% groups who have compounds, militias and alliances throughout the country.

The feds can't even keep highways maintained, why do you think they can keep a massive, bloated, corrupt and divided welfare state together?

A good article on this topic.

 

[Jack Awful]

Either the government will give up, not call the National Guard in, and let the Virginians keep their guns because it's too much effort, or they'll call in the National Guard and the Virginians will give them up/hide them because the guard can't search every inch of every house in the state.

I don't see Virginia rising up.

America's too nice of a place to live and the people aren't desperate enough for conflict.

Jim also thought Epstein would end in a mass upheaval of those in power.

 

[Tour of Italy]

The entire premise relies on the USA not being the evil regime and fighting you fair and square, any really modern cold blooded regime isnt going to be phased by rednecks with guns. Protraced warfare against a modern state requires a completely differant skill set, not in the least because if they're really nasty they might shoot your family.

I would say that despite the growing authoritarian streak on both the left and right, the amount of people who would be instantly willing to take up arms in the event that the government goes full evil regime should not be underestimated. It’s a deeper part of our culture than most people realize.

That plus part of the reason evil regimes have the capacity to kill people’s family in the first place is that the attrition among the death squads would be minimal. How many raids with people shooting back would it take to crack the will of the authoritarian enforcers? How many of those enforcers would even be left once the aforementioned foundational culture kicks in?

That said, I kind of hate boogaloo larpers because they don’t understand just how awful that kind of protracted armed resistance would end up being, regardless of the outcome. Plus it makes people one the fence uneasy when the perception is that people are eager to flip out and start shooting.

Be ready, but don’t be excited for it, Jesus.

 

[TheYellowKing]

I would say that despite the growing authoritarian streak on both the left and right, the amount of people who would be instantly willing to take up arms in the event that the government goes full evil regime should not be underestimated. It’s a deeper part of our culture than most people realize.

That plus part of the reason evil regimes have the capacity to kill people’s family in the first place is that the attrition among the death squads would be minimal. How many raids with people shooting back would it take to crack the will of the authoritarian enforcers? How many of those enforcers would even be left once the aforementioned foundational culture kicks in?

That said, I kind of hate boogaloo larders because they don’t understand just how awful that kind of protracted armed resistance would end up, regardless of the outcome. Plus it makes people one the fence uneasy when the perception is that people are eager to flip out and start shooting.

Be ready, but don’t be excited for it, Jesus.

Boogaloo will be god awful for people in large population centers were "resistance" is mostly going to be exceptional individuals going for pointless shootings in public spaces. In more rural areas the boogaloo will be more like Elohim city or Colorado city with the FLDS were the feds turn the other way in order to avoid the propaganda nightmare of another Waco or even worse for them, the community fighting off the FBI and ATFE.

 

[Oskar Dirlewanger]

Americans only want to bitch about how Star War/Terminator/Ghostbusters/some other manbaby franchise is being ruined by sjws, debate which soda/chips/candy is the best, play some video games and then maybe do "nofap" and post a pepe meme on twitter to pretend they are fearsome revolutionaries that can totally think for themselves. America is the least feasible country to have any sort of "rebellion", it's by far the most successful product of social engineering. Even China, a literal hivemind of bug people, is more probable to have a "rebellion" than the US, the cuck capital of the world.

And what would an american have to rebel against? Twitter banning your anime account for joking about nigger crime statistics? Being expelled from local Magic: The Gathering club for accidentally misgendering a tranny? Your favourite soda flavour being replaced by another flavour with slightly less fluoride? Grow up.

 

[TheYellowKing]

Americans only want to bitch about how Star War/Terminator/Ghostbusters/some other manbaby franchise is being ruined by sjws, debate which soda/chips/candy is the best, play some video games and then maybe do "nofap" and post a pepe meme on twitter to pretend they are fearsome revolutionaries that can totally think for themselves. America is the least feasible country to have any sort of "rebellion", it's by far the most successful product of social engineering. Even China, a literal hivemind of bug people, is more probable to have a "rebellion" than the US, the cuck capital of the world.

And what would an american have to rebel against? Twitter banning your anime account for joking about nigger crime statistics? Being expelled from local Magic: The Gathering club for accidentally misgendering a tranny? Your favourite soda flavour being replaced by another flavour with slightly less fluoride? Grow up.

The American Revolution started because of a minuscule tax increase, the provo IRA started blowing stuff up because a tiny corner of their country was governed by the british. A minority of people are willing to kill and die for principles, its that kind of person who starts revolutions, not the majority of potato people.

Not saying it's a good idea or that there aren't posers who are just in it to LARP, but to dismiss it because there are manbabies and things right this second are comfortable and economically good is naive and ahistorical.

 

[francesco]

Americans only want to bitch about how Star War/Terminator/Ghostbusters/some other manbaby franchise is being ruined by sjws, debate which soda/chips/candy is the best, play some video games and then maybe do "nofap" and post a pepe meme on twitter to pretend they are fearsome revolutionaries that can totally think for themselves. America is the least feasible country to have any sort of "rebellion", it's by far the most successful product of social engineering. Even China, a literal hivemind of bug people, is more probable to have a "rebellion" than the US, the cuck capital of the world.

And what would an american have to rebel against? Twitter banning your anime account for joking about nigger crime statistics? Being expelled from local Magic: The Gathering club for accidentally misgendering a tranny? Your favourite soda flavour being replaced by another flavour with slightly less fluoride? Grow up.

Finally some fucking common sense in this thread.
May I also remind you that the US military has a $1tn yearly budget and a military-industrial complex that's clamoring for excuses to further increase it. Even if you fat rètards and rednecks somehow organise something resembeling a "resistance", they'd drone strike you into dust and flatten what's left of you with a convoy of tanks.

 

[JosephStalin]

A few thoughts on all this.

First, we are still quite a ways away from any large-scale rebellion. Get the Dems back into the White House, have a serious recession on top of that, things get a little more likely.

Second, everyone here is talking about people taking to the streets and hills with their guns. Folks, you can do possibly even more damage through cyberwarfare. There are one hell of a lot of smart people out there. Am sure some are KFers. And not all the smart people who can carry out cyberattacks work for the government.

Third, in my opinion, you'd save any attacks on Federal people for later. Take a look around you, walking and especially driving. The USA is chock-full of soft targets. Want to get a lot of people pissed off at the powers that be? Start shooting up electricity distribution stations, for example. This has already happened.

Metcalf sniper attack - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I have passed by that station many times. Still would be fairly easy to hit. And keep in mind that some of this equipment has to be custom-made. The electric company just can't always roll a replacement out of the warehouse.

In the case of this attack, you had one group of people attacking one station. It is entirely possible that a larger group could carry out coordinated attacks on a number of stations, overwhelming the electric grid's ability to make up for the lost power.

Am sure Sun Tzu or someone else smart has said something like, "Yo, dudes. Only dumbshits attack where the defenses are strongest. You take your time, scout around, make a plan, and hit where defenses are the weakest. Then you get the hell out, bide your time, and plan the next action." Asymmetrical warfare.

When you look at Vietnam, Iraq, Cuba, Afghanistan and certain other insurgencies, what did the insurgents always keep in the back of their minds? Something like, "All we have to do is not lose, and eventually the occupiers will get tired and leave., or we can then beat them." Sure did happen in Vietnam. Happened in Cuba. Has happened in Afghanistan. The only insurgency I know of where the insurgents got clobbered was the Malayan Emergency. The Brits fought at the small-level and got the people on their side. Would venture to say if the Rhodesians hadn't been so hamstrung by sanctions they may well have defeated their insurgencies. Same thing would happen here. Don't need to win right off. Not going to win right off, anyway. In the USA, you just not lose and keep wearing the bad guys out until they either quit or are voted out of office. You don't think of or carry out insurgencies in terms of weeks or months. You're talking years.

Face it, the grand gestures will just get you killed and accomplish little or nothing. It's the systematic, coordinated actions over time that tend to get results.

 

[Jack Awful]

A few thoughts on all this.

First, we are still quite a ways away from any large-scale rebellion. Get the Dems back into the White House, have a serious recession on top of that, things get a little more likely.

Second, everyone here is talking about people taking to the streets and hills with their guns. Folks, you can do possibly even more damage through cyberwarfare. There are one hell of a lot of smart people out there. Am sure some are KFers. And not all the smart people who can carry out cyberattacks work for the government.

Third, in my opinion, you'd save any attacks on Federal people for later. Take a look around you, walking and especially driving. The USA is chock-full of soft targets. Want to get a lot of people pissed off at the powers that be? Start shooting up electricity distribution stations, for example. This has already happened.

Metcalf sniper attack - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I have passed by that station many times. Still would be fairly easy to hit. And keep in mind that some of this equipment has to be custom-made. The electric company just can't always roll a replacement out of the warehouse.

In the case of this attack, you had one group of people attacking one station. It is entirely possible that a larger group could carry out coordinated attacks on a number of stations, overwhelming the electric grid's ability to make up for the lost power.

Am sure Sun Tzu or someone else smart has said something like, "Yo, dudes. Only dumbshits attack where the defenses are strongest. You take your time, scout around, make a plan, and hit where defenses are the weakest. Then you get the hell out, bide your time, and plan the next action." Asymmetrical warfare.

When you look at Vietnam, Iraq, Cuba, Afghanistan and certain other insurgencies, what did the insurgents always keep in the back of their minds? Something like, "All we have to do is not lose, and eventually the occupiers will get tired and leave., or we can then beat them." Sure did happen in Vietnam. Happened in Cuba. Has happened in Afghanistan. The only insurgency I know of where the insurgents got clobbered was the Malayan Emergency. The Brits fought at the small-level and got the people on their side. Would venture to say if the Rhodesians hadn't been so hamstrung by sanctions they may well have defeated their insurgencies. Same thing would happen here. Don't need to win right off. Not going to win right off, anyway. In the USA, you just not lose and keep wearing the bad guys out until they either quit or are voted out of office. You don't think of or carry out insurgencies in terms of weeks or months. You're talking years.

Face it, the grand gestures will just get you killed and accomplish little or nothing. It's the systematic, coordinated actions over time that tend to get results.

"The attack, in which gunmen fired on 17 electrical transformers, resulted in more than $15 million worth of equipment damage, but it had little impact on the station's electrical power supply. "
-Wikipedia

 

[The Grognard]

Eh, I think any insurgency in the US will follow the North Irish model of urban warfare rather than the hillbillies in the mountains raiding shit of the Afgan model. Main thing though, will be how effectively the average fighting age dude becomes a proper pro terrorist rather than just some dildo with a dream and a rifle.