Looking at the marketing and the theme of the movie it's clear that children or families were not the target audience for this movie. "i'm a woman, hear me roar" cements this flick as being for young adults who see Cruella as a empowered woman
Disney's Cruella - because we need sympathize with the animal abuser
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Overly Serious
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Yeah, maybe. It does annoy me. All those channels like ClownfishTV, Nerdrotic and so forth whose entire market is people who want to be offended/disappointed/whatever by something. It just bothers me in this instance because most of what I'm seeing is stuff that doesn't actually stand up and then is repeated by people who haven't seen it because they want to have fun mocking something on 'the other side'. Just like SJWs who will defend crap movies because it's on 'their' side. Except this movie isn't on 'the other side'. It's not SJW'ish, it doesn't try to make her a Good Guy. But clearly there's no stopping this train.
By far the worst and most jarring line in the film. It's said near the start and really feels like they added it just for woke points in the trailer. The film doesn't have much in the way of feminist themes other than in the very old school sense of feminism which is simply that women are capable of things. There's no 'fighting the patriarchy' in a film where the most powerful adversary she faces is female. The discrimination she faces is based on "breeding" and on her acting out. But not based on sex. This film is basically the anti-Harley Quinn movie.
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Mom: based.
Cat mom: tased.
Iznogoud?
All except those of us who've been skipping over your walls o' text, fam.
TheAmbiguousLurker
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No, one a conformist and one a rebel. Again, nothing about the ending of the movie presents it like Cruella is a villain or that burying the identity she thought she had to be as some sort of tragedy or fall from grace. It's an up beat, triumphant moment and she's still presented as the hero with her merry band of misfits (instead of apathetic minions) who explicitly stated they wouldn't still be following her if she was actually a bad person. Cruella uses villainy as a brand, a style, not an actual statement of moral principles. Her list of 'evil deeds' range from not thanking her friends to considering the murder of the woman who killed her mother despite it never factoring into her plans. She is treated as a sympathetic hero who overcomes the temptation to do morally questionable shit, stands by her loving family and presents herself as edgy because it sounds cool. She's the quirky misunderstood artist that expects the audience to be yelling 'Yas queen!'. She is not treated as the villain by the end, and she is most certainly not treated as the person who will go on to try and murder puppies for their spots.
I totally forgot about that. Loved the cartoon as a child. This is how you do a funny villain.
Now I want to make a movie where a gay man is a serial killer. Because fuck those ass clowns. A gay person can just be as evil as a straight person
StarkRavingMad
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Let's do a comparison on some "pit-falling" in Disney movies ...
-Gaston plummeted to his death due to his own arrogant nature. The Beast had let him go, but Gaston needed the trophy/Beast's head mounted on his wall, and so he went for the kill shot and it led to his own demise. This is entirely believable because of how the movie had established Gaston's character.
-Frollo from the Hunchback of Notre Dame plummeted into a city of fire, as symbolism of his divine judgement. There was even a entire song dedicated to his fear of divine judgement. Hunchback is a very flawed movie, but pretty much everybody agrees that Frollo was a great character, and that his death was very fitting.
-Cruella's mom fell off a cliff because Dalmatians were ordered to knock her off a cliff ... Because Disney was trying to justify why Cruella wanted to make a coat out of puppies? lol.
-Gaston plummeted to his death due to his own arrogant nature. The Beast had let him go, but Gaston needed the trophy/Beast's head mounted on his wall, and so he went for the kill shot and it led to his own demise. This is entirely believable because of how the movie had established Gaston's character.
-Frollo from the Hunchback of Notre Dame plummeted into a city of fire, as symbolism of his divine judgement. There was even a entire song dedicated to his fear of divine judgement. Hunchback is a very flawed movie, but pretty much everybody agrees that Frollo was a great character, and that his death was very fitting.
-Cruella's mom fell off a cliff because Dalmatians were ordered to knock her off a cliff ... Because Disney was trying to justify why Cruella wanted to make a coat out of puppies? lol.
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RumblyTumbly
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I'll also point this out.
In the original movie, Cruella didn't hate Dalmatians. She loved the spotted patterns and wanted them for furs, but didn't she didn't hate them. If anything, in a warped way, she loved them for what they could give her.
She didn't want to skin them and make them in to coats because she hated the animal. She loved fur, worshipped fur (her words) and loved the pattern of Dalmatians. Adding in a whole, "Dalmatians killed my mommy" justification makes no sense because there was no hatred there to justify.
In the original movie, Cruella didn't hate Dalmatians. She loved the spotted patterns and wanted them for furs, but didn't she didn't hate them. If anything, in a warped way, she loved them for what they could give her.
She didn't want to skin them and make them in to coats because she hated the animal. She loved fur, worshipped fur (her words) and loved the pattern of Dalmatians. Adding in a whole, "Dalmatians killed my mommy" justification makes no sense because there was no hatred there to justify.
Overly Serious
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She doesn't in this movie, either. It's just that the idea that she does is so appealing to people for some reason.
Are gingers not enough of a minority for Hollywood not to genocide them? Either way it's clear this movie wasn't intended for the Asian market.
That would've been racist then somehow because all BIPOCs eat dogs or something.
Were they even in the OT? I have watched the OT too many times to count and not once remember some shitty dice on the window.
Articles and Nudes
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So why do you think the movie makers made such specific use of the breed she would go on to try and skin.
Apparently the dice are only in a shot or two and iirc the prop was pulled from the set partway through shooting because it looked stupid
Why even try and make good films anymore when you just need to dazzle the audience with gay effects.
So glad Johnson decided they were super important for some fucking reason. I can't believe that clown is a acclaimed director and writer, but then again so is Abrams.
"I have...a cunning plan!"
TheAmbiguousLurker
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Blackadder would do well on Lion King, he already has the Circle of Life down:
"It is the way of the world, Baldrick — the abused always kick downwards. I am annoyed, and so I kick the cat… the cat pounces on the mouse, and, finally, the mouse–"
"Agh!"
"…bites you on the behind."
"Well, what do I do?"
"Nothing. You are last in God’s great chain, Baldrick — unless, of course, there’s an earwig around here that you’d like to victimise."
That Chris Guy
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Or worse if you ask Jeffrey Dahmer. Or John Wayne Gacy...
Oh yeah I frogot those guys were gay. But I'm sure SJws like to ignore stuff like that
Dude, take a closer look at the video.
The motherfucking dog dropkicked her off the cliff. You can kinda see the dog do a flip right after it pushes her over the (actually pretty high) railing.
I don't need to know anything else about the film, this fucking scene would have probably gotten me kicked out for laughing too hard.
Full on Rich Evan’s laugh out of the theater.
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