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Disney's Cruella - because we need sympathize with the animal abuser
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It's a really creepy message Disney is sending to little girls, it reminds me how creepily Gabby Gabby is handled in Toy Story 4.
The message they're sending to girls is that whatever they do is justified if they feel it's justified, even if they have to break rules and hurt people, that's basically flat out evil, modern corporate media is sending evil messages to kids.
It's like we're living in the world of 1990s conspiracy theory come true, back then people were afraid of them hiding dicks on the cover of the Little Mermaid, now they have evil messages front and center.
Sometimes a woman is just a bad person, a woman doing bad things is not always justified in some way, it's sickening that our culture no longer wants to admit this.
The message they're sending to girls is that whatever they do is justified if they feel it's justified, even if they have to break rules and hurt people, that's basically flat out evil, modern corporate media is sending evil messages to kids.
It's like we're living in the world of 1990s conspiracy theory come true, back then people were afraid of them hiding dicks on the cover of the Little Mermaid, now they have evil messages front and center.
Sometimes a woman is just a bad person, a woman doing bad things is not always justified in some way, it's sickening that our culture no longer wants to admit this.
Oh no….
And the (trained) Dalmatians didn't just maul her adoptive mother to death because?
I know, I know, Disney movie. Who am I kidding? The milk's run dry for so long that the udders are running out of dust.
I know, I know, Disney movie. Who am I kidding? The milk's run dry for so long that the udders are running out of dust.
So is this movie the canon prequel to the other two live-action Dalmatians movies? Because I saw them recently to refresh my memory and I jsut want to remind everyone that Cruella's ultimate fate is being baked into a cake in a French pastry factory.
I'm surprised no one's called this joke about Cruella getting baked into an oven "problematic" yet.
I'm surprised no one's called this joke about Cruella getting baked into an oven "problematic" yet.
They put a lot of homoerotic tension between Captain Hook and Peter Pan to a point where people expect them to make out. They end up with a three second kiss near the end of the movie that is then edited out for the Chinese audiences and everyone on Twitter claps for more gay representation. Peter is at least 18 in this adaption, so it’s okay.
How did they fuck this up? Is incest suddenly okay now despite how much they tried to erase any form of incest from The Lion King?
The Valeyard
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It can’t be because Roger is now an Iranian, and Anita is a jogger.
One aspect of this mess that I am intrigued by is that the original Cruella of Dodie Smith’s novel was actually an elegant aristocratic villain who was a designer of fur outerwear. They may have actually gone back to the source material for inspiration, although it appears they’ve turned it to horseshit.
Here’s the original Cruella from the first edition line drawings:
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Here’s the original Cruella from the first edition line drawings:
Gar For Archer
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TIL there’s a source material.
I watched the movie this afternoon and it was more of a snoozefest than anything else. I kept fast forwarding through boring tropes to see if anything would happen or if a costume would look awesome, and nothing. Even the hair wasn't as good as the Glenn Close version.
KEKMUHLORD
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Having Emma Stone or anyone try and play a young Cruella who is misunderstood and not that crazy always meant this movie was gonna be shit.
She was never gonna come close to Glenn Close as Cruella who seemed to have a blast just being over the top and batshit insane.
Which is how I imagine someone who wants to skin dogs for fashion would be.
She was never gonna come close to Glenn Close as Cruella who seemed to have a blast just being over the top and batshit insane.
Which is how I imagine someone who wants to skin dogs for fashion would be.
So if a woman pirates Cruella/goes into a building without a mask/posts on Kiwi Farms/does something else Disney and the Democrats don't like, it's justified, right? I mean, if it's a woman, nothing she does is evil and everything she does is justified, right? Right???
Modern media sucks. I would say we need another renaissance, but that "renaissance" would probably just be more deconstructive woke reboots.
RumblyTumbly
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Now compare that to a movie like Joker, which focuses on a severely fucked up male character. That movie acknowledges that Arthur/Joker is severely fucked up, and the big take away from it is that society creates these lunatic monsters. Arthur is NOT a hero, and he is NOT justified in what he does. There is room for some sympathy given his situation, and some of the people he hurts are bad, but he is not presented as being right to do what he does.
Good God, I just thought of something. Could you imagine a gender flipped version of A Clockwork Orange where they make the now female Alex unironically the hero?
BootlegPopeye
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Considering they somehow managed to make Maleficent, a literal demonic fairy, a 'heroine', absolutely nothing would surprise me with Disney.
Han Solo has to be the perfect example of why prequels are fucking terrible in most cases. It's not just that we know how it'll end, but the way how we get there is pretty bad, too.
But Han Solo also stands out for trying to give origins to Han Solo's iconic stuff and giving the worst literal explanation ever.
Every single thing is like this: "Where did Han get his iconic [X]? It just kinda sorta fell into his lap."
His name? Randomly picked name given to him by a randum shmuck.
His Blaster? Random gun that was lying around, given to him by some guy.
His friend Chewie? He just kinda bumped into him in prison.
His ship? He just kinda won it.
Ironically, the most elaborate explanation is reserved for his dice dangling in the cockpit... which no one ever gave a shit about before and 99% of audiences didn't even realize they were there in the OT.
Nah. Men are inherently rotten, women are poor innocent victims of society (which is patriarchical).
Male villains will not get this makeover (unless like the aforementioned Scar/Lion King thing, where they will declare him gay and thus his actions are justified by the cruel and unfair way he was treated.)
It's the most bloodless way to show her death. She just sorta falls down into a dark abyss into water, it's clear that she's dead but you don't have to show her really dying.
Cause it worked for that Maleficient movie and that Oz witch musical.
Fuck me seven ways from sunday, this shit's hilarious. E;R video when?
Or compare it to Breaking Bad. The protagonist is severely fucked up and a complete cunt:
Walt is a very petty man, who holds a grudge against Gretchen and Todd for being rich entrepreneurs while he's just a lowly Chemnist teacher. He blames them (and it's one of the shows greatest decisions not to dive into the backstory, so we really don't know what happened between them, we only have their words from their perspectives on very broad strokes).
There's that scene where Walt talks about carbon, segways in to the story of that guy who invented a way to make artificial diamonds, that made his company stupid amounts of money and he got a small bonus for it. It's very clear that Walt identifies heavily with that guy.
Then he makes a really vile drug, is confronted by two drug dealers, who he kills and then it's all downhill from there.
Walt is driven by his ego, petty grievances and negative emotions in everything he does. When the DEA thinks Gale is Heisenberg, he just doesn't want that dude to steal his thunder posthumously, so he makes some comments towards Hank about how Gale doesn't seem like Heisenberg to him. His pride and ego doesn't allow him to take the simple, convenient way out.
And he constantly makes excuses about his actions, manipulates everyone...
But here's the deal: The show is made in such a way, that you still kinda sorta root for Walt, no matter how bad the shit he does becomes. Only a fool would look at Walt and go "He's a hero!", though.
He's a very sympathetic villain. You really understand what he's doing and why he's doing it for the most part. Especially at the beginning, he's forced to do vile shit to survive and to protect his family... but at some point, he's got more money than he could ever feasibly launder. He could just stop. But he won't. Cause if he quits, "a company that is big enough, it could be listed on the NASDAQ, goes belly up", casue he simply can't get over leaving Grey Matter before it became a billion dollar cashcow.
It's also fascinating that almost everyone hates Skyler, even though she's a clear victim of Walt's antics (but then again, before any criminal shit goes down, she's a nagging, annoying twat).
Joker is what I was thinking of earlier, it's the closest thing to a movie like this that they've done for a male character.
But the difference is while he's more sympathetic than the Joker is depicted he's still a villain.
It's perfectly fine to make a movie like that exploring what makes a villain tick, but white washing a villain into a clear cut hero is creepy, especially in the context of children's media.
I still can't get over Toy Story 4 and I don't understand why it didn't cause a bigger stink for disrespecting the series like it did, all of the villains in the first 3 movies were male and get their comeuppance at the end but meanwhile Gabby Gabby has no redemptive arc, doesn't have to pay any sort of price or make any sort of apology for her villainous behavior and instead she gets a happy ending just because, such creepy bullshit, what is happening to our society?
Toy Story especially hit closes to home for me to see it go Woke, especially considering it already had the perfect ending with 3, which makes 4 easy to ignore, but I really look back and cringe at how excited I was for 4 before I watched it.
I still can't believe they took the most obvious, most lazy approach instead of it just being a space adventure with Han and Chewie, not an "origin story", but that would have required creativity.
The best prequel in any medium is Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater because it filled out the backstory of a character who had previously been very mysterious (while still keeping some mystery to him) and it made the whole saga much richer.
Oh man, I almost forgot about Wicked, how did that not get a movie?
Wicked seems to be ground zero for this type of story.
Live action Cruellas are never as attractive as the animated one.
I had a very complex childhood.
I had a very complex childhood.
They’ve apparently been trying to make a film adaptation since 2004.
Disney copyright struck this, do you have it saved?
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