Do antivirus programs still suck donkey dick? -

[ItsTheShitt]

Just use Windows Defender and Malwarebytes to fill any gaps in common sense. Shit happens, after all.

Just use Windows Defender (yes it's actually decent) and Malwarebytes anti-malware. That's all you need, plus a good dose of Common sense.

You don't need to install some bloated software that can be easily manipulated just to babysit you

 

[3119967d0c]

>downloads a crack from a torrent
>""antivirus"" starts screaming about it being a malware and deletes it without even offering an option and even though its a false positive
All ""antiviruses"" are a malware

It's reasonable heuristic behavior. The majority of highly optimized EXEs (often compressed with UPX or similar) are not good files. Like keygens or cracks. They're viruses.

It's kind of lazy of them not to do more analysis than this, which can be automated to some degree, but you always have the choice of letting these files through.

 

[Gig Bucking Fun]

Antivirus is bloatware that will cause your CPU to overclock, turning your PC into an active volcano whenever you try to complete the simplest task on it. My advice: stop trying to watch illegal beastiality videos. The likeliness of you receiving viruses will decrease dramatically when you’re not trying to access a third-party pajeet porn site for free horsecock porn.

 

[LazloChalos]

Most of them offer substandard protection, their main purpose is selling subscriptions for features and mining data.

Not to mention most slow down your system, and not only due to scanning:

"Oh, you started your computer and want to use it? Let me just grind everything to a screeching halt and hog your bandwidth to bring you some special offers of features you can already do for free"

Avast is a cancer, it butchered CCleaner and their practices are shady as fuck.

 

[NumberingYourState]

ad blockers, script blockers, and only downloading then installing what I need right away and ONLY from trusted sources is my antivirus

 

[Jones McCann]

Haven't had a virus in 5 years without antivirus. They're pretty trash honestly.

 

[A Cardboard Box]

Never really bought this argument. I can visit seemingly harmless sites with zero intention of downloading anything and still have AV block said site from installing a trojan or some other shitty malware. It isn't even ad related as I use adblock. I know you don't download shit you don't understand, dont open emai, from that Nigerian prince or the bank you never signed up for, but I think there are legit reasons to use AV.
It's not even a matter of noticing weird shit. Why would a virus in current year install some kind of blatant popup BS, when it's much more useful for a hacker to either install some cryptominer or keylogger? Atleast the crypto you may notice increased PC usage, but spyware wouldn't draw much attention. I have to wonder how much AV free people would find on their machines if they used an AV scan just because you don't have redirects doesn't mean you arent infected.

Windows defender is fine. If you want another program get malwarebytes. WD+MB+not being retarded is more than enough.

 

[Erika Furudo]

Windows defender is fine. If you want another program get malwarebytes. WD+MB+not being retarded is more than enough.

"Windows defender is fine."

I'm fine paying for AV.

Somewhat related, how do Linux users avoid viruses, given you have various distros and it's not as widely used, I doubt you can have Norton, Avast, Kaspersky, etc all running on your PC. Or do they run fine? I know people say Linux is safer becuase less people use it, therefore less people make viruses for it, but all you need is a few guys who figure linux is a valid target.
Do linux users just assume they won't get infected?

 

[PetrifiedTom]

Protip: No virus nor malware will harm your PC if you use any other account except administrator rights.

 

[nippleonbonerfart]

"Windows defender is fine."

I'm fine paying for AV.

Somewhat related, how do Linux users avoid viruses, given you have various distros and it's not as widely used, I doubt you can have Norton, Avast, Kaspersky, etc all running on your PC. Or do they run fine? I know people say Linux is safer becuase less people use it, therefore less people make viruses for it, but all you need is a few guys who figure linux is a valid target.
Do linux users just assume they won't get infected?

It's just a matter of it not being as popular makes it a less desirable target.

 

[Jones McCann]

Somewhat related, how do Linux users avoid viruses, given you have various distros and it's not as widely used, I doubt you can have Norton, Avast, Kaspersky, etc all running on your PC. Or do they run fine? I know people say Linux is safer becuase less people use it, therefore less people make viruses for it, but all you need is a few guys who figure linux is a valid target.
Do linux users just assume they won't get infected?

99% of viruses are made for windows but I'm sure there is linux viruses and vulnerabilities. There is definitely linux antivirus but I don't use any. It is on the whole more secure than Windows due to it being open source and used by every website.

 

[cecograph]

Linux started out way more secure than Windows, having copied its security model from UNIX, and it's taken ages for Windows to catch up. You've always run most programs on Linux as an unprivileged user, something that Windows didn't push for until Vista and even then, there was no culture of it, and it took a good while for Windows software to get on board. Many Linux users don't run any software that's not part of their distribution, so they're not downloading and running potential malware. Firewalls on Linux are ancient, and even without them, services are better set-up to not need them: by the end of its life, Windows XP pre-SP2 would be infected before you could finish installing due to a lack of a firewall protecting its shitty vulnerable services.

 

[Overly Serious]

Running MiKKKro$oft Windows on a laptop after more than a decade of UNIRONICALLY USING LINUX

Laptop came preinstalled with a trial of McAfee. I remember McAfee the software sucking, but I am a fan of McAfee the person. Has the antivirus software gotten less shitty or is it still as unstable as John McAfee, himself?

I would like to feel as safe whilst browsing yiff porn in windows, as I did in Linux.

McAfee the person is indeed awesome. He would also probably be the very first person to tell you he has nothing to do with the actual software anymore and that it does indeed suck donkey balls.

Windows in-built Defender is acceptable for ordinary use. It does the job well enough. I wouldn't install McAfee or Norton to replace it (two big names). I would, if I were using my system professionally install something else. The two that are most consistently the highest scorers are Trend Micro and Kaspersky. Both are excellent though Kaspersky is slightly less annoying about pop-ups. Kaspersky does original research and were instrumental in exposing both Stuxnet and caught the NSA hacking their own network. They're really good. Trend Micro I know less about their original research but their product is also very high standard. AVG and the rest I can't advise on which doesn't mean they're bad, just means I haven't really used them and they don't score quite as highly as Kaspersky and Trend Micro.

If you're living in the West I would probably recommend Kaspersky on the principle that if you're doing something wrong Russian police are a lot less likely to bother coming around your house than Western police.

But TL;DR: yes, it's worth paying for a good brand anti-malware suite and they are pretty light on the process compared to how things used to be. It's not the necessity it was back when you last used Windows, though.

 

[garakfan69]

Linux started out way more secure than Windows, having copied its security model from UNIX, and it's taken ages for Windows to catch up. You've always run most programs on Linux as an unprivileged user,

That doesn't really matter though. Your user account is going to have write access to all the data you actually care about. A virus on Linux would still be disastrous for you.

The real problem is that Windows is used by idiots who think running "youwonamilliondollars.exe" is a good idea.

 

[cecograph]

That doesn't really matter though. Your user account is going to have write access to all the data you actually care about. A virus on Linux would still be disastrous for you.

The real problem is that Windows is used by idiots who think running "youwonamilliondollars.exe" is a good idea.

My user account doesn't have write access to all the data I care about. I care a lot about my rotating local backups, for instance, and they can't be modified without root.

I will say that unprivileged user accounts are a pretty pathetic way to secure a system, which is just to say that Windows security was worse than pathetic for a very long time.

As for running random exes, I confess I used to do that on Windows when I needed some simple utility, and it was mostly a game of crossing my fingers that I wasn't downloading malware. I don't find myself doing this on Linux, because pretty much all software I download is through the distribution's package manager.

 

[Tookie]

I would agrees with most here that Windows Defender plus Malwarebytes is your best bet. Use vigilant adblocking in your browser since sketchy ad networks are the most common attack vector. If you feel like doing something really retarded, do it inside a Linux VM so it is isolated from your host system.

 

[Van Darkholme]

Windows Defender + Malwarebytes + Not being totally retarded.

 

[draggs]

I got a year of free McAfee with my new computer, that + windows defender + not being a retard has worked very well for me. Not sure if I'll sign up for a subscription when the year runs out, but I have no complaints about the McAfee antivirus or the bells and whistles that come with it

 

[mr.moon1488]

I use PC Matic. Works pretty good I just have to turn the super shield program off for some games.

 

[ItsTheShitt]

"Windows defender is fine."

I'm fine paying for AV.

Somewhat related, how do Linux users avoid viruses, given you have various distros and it's not as widely used, I doubt you can have Norton, Avast, Kaspersky, etc all running on your PC. Or do they run fine? I know people say Linux is safer becuase less people use it, therefore less people make viruses for it, but all you need is a few guys who figure linux is a valid target.
Do linux users just assume they won't get infected?

GNU/Linux (or any Unix/Unix-like systems) users won't get infected because the malware doesn't have enough privileges to do system damage (if you're running as a regular user, the least it can do is fuck up your home directory), unless the malware does root exploit or you're retarded enough to run it as root

Also Windoez is not designed for security in mind obviously