Do any of you kiwifags take collagen? - need advice on japans supposed wonder supplement

[pedoguyguykrai]

Oh yeah there are plenty of tricks, I was recently turned on to powdered peanut butter, it's a terrific way to skip on some calories and get those all important protein macros. Unflavored whey isolate 90 is another one too.

I just skip the powder and throw in a small handful of peanuts add a bit of oak milk ice, bananas and just a tea spoon of honey and blend for a pb and banana smoothie. also occasional treat I have too is pomegranate sorbet, I don't use store bought juice but I blend the pomegranate after peeling ina blender with ice until it's finely blended put it iinto a container and let it stay in the freezer, occasionally if I am naughy I'll add a small scoop and blend with a nice shiraz for a not too sweet cocktail.

 

[Cheerlead-in-Chief]

Mom recently bought a box of collagen from Costco.

 

[Slap47]

okay, I have pcos, and despite me going to extreme lengths on taking care of my body, I am experiencing thinning hair.
one of my friends takes collagen in coffee every day and 3 times a day to get great skin hair and nails, but I am a little unsure if the hype is real.
so I am seeeking anyone else who tried it to get a second opinion before I make a decision.
do you take collagen? have tried it? and does it work for you or the results were meh?

Why take supplements when you can literally just eat meats and soups to more than fulfill your needs?

 

[pedoguyguykrai]

Why take supplements when you can literally just eat meats and soups to more than fulfill your needs?

because with pcos weight gain is an issue for me I have tried keto and it made me constipated and gain more weight so so far eating meat once a day is the way to go for me, but I suppose I can literally make pork bone broth for my veggie ramen to go ahead and add more substance in my soups, I am also very allergic to dairy so I have to avoid it at all costs and take a calcium supplement any way. its hidden in everything really and I tend to offeset possible constipation from eating foods with possible milk in it, but eating as much veggies as I can to add fiber and limit my meat intake as well. I think tbh the best way to prevent further hair less and more misery is to change to a doctor willing to green light a total hysterectomy, one of my ovaries have a literal ticking time bomb in the form of a grape fruit sized cyst and the other is getting another cyst, if it busts, I can possibly be yeeted off this earth I don't catch it in time and my current gyno is a catholic and goes to my local church so she's been literally throwing bandaid fixes instead of listening to my logic anyway because I much rather be rendered completely unable to have kids than to worrry about a cyst bursting.

 

[gaystoner]

Yea...used to be pills but now i put in a green smoothie i make every other day. I feel like it works.

 

[Concho Pete]

Gimmick mostly. Dietary protein all gets broken down into the same peptides and amino acids ultimately. Best to just consume complete proteins.

 

[Freedom Fries]

Collagen is a protein. Your body does not distinguish it from other proteins and metabolizes it no differently. It doesn't say "Oh collagen! I will send that to the joints and hair!"

It's bullshit.

That's not entirely true. Collagen peptides and proteins are more bioavailable for that kind of protein and promotes anabolism of same. That said, it's probably hype. There is some research supporting taking collagen peptides with an orange of all things before working out to improve joint and connective tissue recovery and growth. I guess try it out and see how it feels. Hair is 99% genetic.

I do take it for joint health, and notice no issues with pre-existing joint injury/surgery, but that's probably more thanks to an aggressive and lasting physical rehab program.

 

[StrawberryDouche]

The thing is, any collagen you consume is not going to replace collagen loss in your joints.

I do take it for joint health, and notice no issues with pre-existing joint injury/surgery, but that's probably more thanks to an aggressive and lasting physical rehab program.

I had some success with flax seed oil. The fresh, unfiltered cold press stuff. It has anti inflammatory properties that did seem to give a degree of relief.

 

[DDBCAE CBAADCBE]

Weirdly I feel like my hair has been getting thicker as I age and it’s actually becoming an issue because it grows too fast now but no I do not take supplements.

 

[Unflushable Turd]

okay, I have pcos, and despite me going to extreme lengths on taking care of my body, I am experiencing thinning hair.
one of my friends takes collagen in coffee every day and 3 times a day to get great skin hair and nails, but I am a little unsure if the hype is real.
so I am seeeking anyone else who tried it to get a second opinion before I make a decision.
do you take collagen? have tried it? and does it work for you or the results were meh?

My entry-level opinion is that oral collagen supplements are a scam (your stomach acid is just gonna digest it down to its component amino acids). But have you looked into spironolactone? It's an androgen receptor blocker (inhibits the effects of testosterone). It boosts scalp hair growth in females, while also reducing facial hair/hormonal acne/oiliness. It's a diuretic so you'd just have to watch out for signs of reduced blood pressure. But overall it's great for PCOS symptoms.

 

[Seminal Ointments Lain]

I've been working out pretty hard for 6 months now, and I'm roughly still about 40lbs overweight. There isn't a lot of loose skin but I can kinda start to feel it get there.

Should I take collagen to tighten up my skin or wait it out?

 

[Stoneheart]

Well the natural solution of cooked bones inst bad, and tasty, but it will not fix your hair problem.
Bad hair is a sign for bad character, just be good and they will come again.

 

[clinically retarded]

yes i would recommend it but for it to actually work you have to make sure it's hydrolyzed collagen otherwise the molecules are too big for your body to absorb or something.

 

[Stoneheart]

yes i would recommend it but for it to actually work you have to make sure it's hydrolyzed collagen otherwise the molecules are too big for your body to absorb or something.

thats why you need to buy the good stuff!

 

[clinically retarded]

I've been working out pretty hard for 6 months now, and I'm roughly still about 40lbs overweight. There isn't a lot of loose skin but I can kinda start to feel it get there.

Should I take collagen to tighten up my skin or wait it out?

yes you should i mean why not. but make sure it's hydrolyzed collagen otherwise the molecules are too big for your body to absorb and it won't do anything. it's not only good for skin elasticity it also helps with muscles growth, joints and stuff like that : )

 

[Mariposa Colorado]

Taking collagen won't hurt you but making you hair thicker? I doubt it.
I took ginko biloba and giseng (bloodfow stimulants) for hairgrowth and thickness. It worked relatively well.
Some of my girlfriends take biotine for hairgrowth and thicker hair(watch out, I can give you break outs).

Topical treatments like caffeine(shampoo's) can work too.
Topical Castor oil (mixed with a carrier oil like jojoba) can give you thicker hairgrowth everywhere you apply it.

 

[knobslobbin]

yep, the hydrolyzed kind or whatever. I stir in a teaspoon with my coffee or when I'm making soup. Also eat plenty of organ meats, it's good for you.

Spoiler: science sperging

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33572965/

Summary: Meats are high in methionine, which an excess of is theorized to reduce lifespan through several metabolic pathways described in the article I linked.

I do carnivore, so restricting meats isn't an option but I would like the benefits of methionine restriction. Glycine, which organ meats are high in, have been found through some metabolic pathway I can't remember off the top of my head to mediate the effects of methionine.

Only been shown in rats so far though I think, but our ancestors ate the organs so I figure it's a good idea for me too even if we don't fully understand the science behind it yet. https://faseb.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1096/fasebj.25.1_supplement.528.2

 

[Uncle Warren]

I have tried keto and it made me constipated and gain more weight

The downfall of keto is a compound of less fiber and retards assuming you're only eating meat and butter. Add spinach and other dark green leafy veggies to the diet, restrict your caloric intake. I'm rolling around 2 meals a day on a 1.4k cal limit (at least I try my best to be under it) and supplement the fiber with Fibersol-2. And water. Drink water. The amount you're drinking? It's not enough, drink more.

 

[pedoguyguykrai]

The downfall of keto is a compound of less fiber and retards assuming you're only eating meat and butter. Add spinach and other dark green leafy veggies to the diet, restrict your caloric intake. I'm rolling around 2 meals a day on a 1.4k cal limit (at least I try my best to be under it) and supplement the fiber with Fibersol-2. And water. Drink water. The amount you're drinking? It's not enough, drink more.

ever heard of ahas? like I buy a fuck ton every week they come in delicious flavors and no additives, its basically carbonated water with flavors like citrus and green tea, and pom and blue berry, or my favorite apple ginger. i love the apple ginger shit its soo goood kind of like angry orchard.

 

[Ahriman]

okay, I have pcos, and despite me going to extreme lengths on taking care of my body, I am experiencing thinning hair.

Are you a vegetarian/vegan? it's a tell-tale sign of vegans to have weak, opaque hair.

You could fix that right up by eating a lot more meat.