Do people see Free Speech as a old worthless value?

Do you support Free Speech?

  • Yes

    Votes: 56 75.7%
  • No, it's totally Lame.

    Votes: 18 24.3%

  • Total voters
    74

Shovel Mech Pilot

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Free speech is a historical outlier. Was there even anything like the first amendment prior to the USA? If the liberals get what they want and finish their evisceration of 1A, there won't be anything like it afterwards.
 

Jimjamflimflam

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People who have never had a contrary thought or original idea in their life have no problem with silencing speech because they can't convince every being the silenced one.

Sadly with how much group thought and hive mentality is required to not be expelled by society there is a sizable portion of the population that fall into this category.
 

Unyielding Stupidity

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People in general don't care about free speech, to them it's just a mindless buzzword. I guarantee you the vast majority of people would surrender their freedom of speech so that the government could protect them from mean words on the internet., because the talking heads on the media told them that only fascists care about freedom of speech.
 

Jimjamflimflam

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People in general don't care about free speech, to them it's just a mindless buzzword. I guarantee you the vast majority of people would surrender their freedom of speech so that the government could protect them from mean words on the internet., because the talking heads on the media told them that only fascists care about freedom of speech.

Take away their porn and goddamn will they suddenly throw a fit over free speech being infringed on.
 

WhatIsThePunchline

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People in general don't care about free speech, to them it's just a mindless buzzword. I guarantee you the vast majority of people would surrender their freedom of speech so that the government could protect them from mean words on the internet., because the talking heads on the media told them that only fascists care about freedom of speech.
Sadly true. Also I think Null has the right of it. Unless you regulate the banks it doesn't really matter what you do with social media or news outlets or whatever.
 

All Cops Are Based

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It's treated as outdated because tacitly speaking we already have censorship in America. It's just economic censorship. There are certain ideas you cannot express or you'll be fired from your job, kicked from paypal, possibly your bank and other important financial infrastructure.

The legal term "freedom of speech" (freedom to say what you want without fear of government censoring you) is an old definition that hasn't caught up to our present day reality of the power of state & the corporate world bleeding into each other, so every discussion about it devolves into midwits like HHH getting their dildo shaped bat signal to swoop and and screech MUH PRIVATE COMPANIES. Ironically these are the same people who wipe their ass with the constitution in second amendment arguments because "hurr, the founding fathers didn't know how advanced guns would get."

Then it devolves into some spergfest over whether or not twitter and paypal deplatforming dissent is exactly like poor downtrodden ma & pa businesses practicing their freedom of association. It's just stupid and dishonest and nobody likes having this argument over and over.
 
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WhatIsThePunchline

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Yeah, the finances are definitely part of it. If I want to pay you money, and you aren't selling something illegal, the banks and payment processors should process the transaction and otherwise keep out of it. They shouldn't be able to get in the way and go 'ackshually we control your wallet'.
 

Hollywood Hulk Hogan

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Lol, you acussing anyone else of being assblasted.

And again, who's talking about being banned from a subreddit? I was talking about subreddits being banned. Try to keep up. Read the text slowly and think about it.
Okay, then I guess you're assblasted because your QAnon subreddits were deleted. Bawww harder
 

I-chi

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No no no, you don't get it.

I called you a moron.

And then a couple of posts later you were ranting about how regulation means communism.

That's amazing.

Why are you arguing with the contrarian flip-flopper whose bad faith arguments are predicated on sperging out over KF's status as a right-wing site by the definition of the people who want to scour it from the internet? That - rather than accept that $20 isn't getting him or the rest of his retard ilk any more special treatment and that enlightened centrism is gay and cowardly - it's a more worthwhile use of his time to pretend he's owning the Qtards living under his bed.
 

Hollywood Hulk Hogan

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Why are you arguing with the contrarian flip-flopper whose bad faith arguments are predicated on sperging out over KF's status as a right-wing site by the definition of the people who want to scour it from the internet? That - rather than accept that $20 isn't getting him or the rest of his retard ilk any more special treatment and that enlightened centrism is gay and cowardly - it's a more worthwhile use of his time to pretend he's owning the Qtards living under his bed.
Lol you're still seething mad that I made fun of Qtards like you. Still Trusting The Plan?

No no no, you don't get it.

I called you a moron.

And then a couple of posts later you were ranting about how regulation means communism.

That's amazing.
It's more amazing that you still don't get it. You think the government shouldn't let companies run themselves as they see fit. So much for small government. You're just assblasted that you got banned from Reddit
 

I-chi

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Lol you're still seething mad that I made fun of Qtards like you. Still Trusting The Plan?


It's more amazing that you still don't get it. You think the government shouldn't let companies run themselves as they see fit. So much for small government. You're just assblasted that you got banned from Reddit

Have you checked under your bed yet tonight, Terry? They could be anywhere.
 

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