(I guess it's pretty clear that I'm really...I guess "sympathetic" towards him, compared to others. I'm sure if I knew him IRL or got personal wit him, that would be very, very different. Buh ayway)
I was just listening to Alec Calls again because it's been a while, and while laughing at how weird and surreal and convoluted his little arguments got, I had to be on his side with this part: Alec Call 2
Sometimes I think people got a liiiittle bit unfair with Chris (I know he deserves it but obv. I'm kind of a "fan"), like when Kacey deliberately misinterpreted what Chris was saying about Clyde Cash not being dead, and stuff.
Or I guess, most likely I just got a bit butthurt because I"m a fountain pen lover and I have exchanged letters. I like to get something in the mail that's worth getting in the mail, you know? Something worth receiving. I wouldn't say that digital art is lacking in character (well, compare MS Paint line tool to a tablet with pressure control - it's a spectrum), but other than that, yeah I pretty much agree with Chris 100%. Except for his own usage of fucking Comic Sans (A big dumb peeve of mine is when in comics, the lettering doesn't match the art. That means, digital font over clearly hand-drawn imagery grates on my nerves. It's a stupid thing, I know)
That and, what's the usage of paper compared to the usage of electricity to run a computer to draw on with the tablet. But that's a whole 'nother topic, so anyway.
How about you? Don't be ashamed if you've ever felt a bit more on his side on certain topics.
I was just listening to Alec Calls again because it's been a while, and while laughing at how weird and surreal and convoluted his little arguments got, I had to be on his side with this part: Alec Call 2
Chris: T-t-to change it from more hand-written text, to more legible typed text.
Alec: Y'know, If I remember right, I think kinda one of the criticisms you had about Asperchu was that it was not completely hand-drawn original. Because I do use Photoshop in part of my creative process, but it sounds like you do kind of the same thing. Which is, you know, that's fine. Digital, digital media is where our world is going, but I thought- see I thought you drew it all on paper and uploaded it.
Chris: I did draw it all on paper. The only part I edit in Photoshop is the text; what you reeead.
Alec: 'Kay, I thought so. Well, it just seems a little hypocritical, but you do use Photoshop in the creative process, but you criticized me for it. Don't you think?
Chris: No, actually, what I thought, is that you skip the hand-drawing and you draw everything on your Photoshop with your computer mouse.
Alec: Well I don't- here's what I do. I do sometimes draw the pages on paper, um, I'm kinda trying to shy away from that because, our society wastes so much paper, so I'm trying to be a little more socially responsible. But what I do, I use a tablet, and I draw on that, and that's basically the same thing as pen and paper, it's, uh, what I draw goes directly on the computer screen. So I don't use a mouse.
Chris: Hmm.
Alec: Yeah, it's the same thing-
Chris: Okay, but still, it looks crappy compared to mine. Even my mother agrees.
Alec: Oh, hey, hey, hey, c'mon that's a little insulting Chris, what do you mean, "crappy"? I mean, my mother says my comic is the most beautiful comic she's ever seen too but, I kind of think that's because she's a supportive mother. You know, mothers are supposed to support their children in their endeavors. And I have, y'know, got 20,000 fans now that love it too. None of them are my mother. My mother doesn't actually use a computer, I just show her the print-outs. [silence] Y'know, I get complimented on my art all the time.
Chris: Hmm.
Alec: I mean, it's okay to disagree. I just, I'm curious why you think it's crappy?
Chris: Because it's computer drawn. It's not originally hand-drawn.
Alec: I just told you, it is hand-drawn. It's hand-drawn on a tablet. What do you mean, it's not an "original hand-drawn?"
Chris: It don't have the old-fashioned original pencil or pen markings, that's what I have.
Alec: So, because I don't have smudge-marks on my paper, is that's what you mean? That was another reason I went with the tablet, because I got a lot of smudge-marks on my paper when I was doing math and I had to spend extra time erasing it. Y'know is- okay, by comparison, could I say that our cars are not true original transportation because people should be using old-fashioned horses? You use Photoshop for lettering and effects. We're one in the same here, Chris.
Chris: [sigh]
Alec: And-and again, I just don't see why, the exact method I use to draw determines the skill of my art. Weren't you um, I remember recently, didn't you put, like, a live picture of yourself in your comic for some Guitar Hero theme? I mean, you didn't draw that part in, did you?[3]
Chris: I-I-It at least allows me, to put myself in my work. See, a bigger difference between drawing with a tablet or mouse versus hand-drawn is that you see more personality with the orig- with the pen-marking, and color—and marker coloring versus what's... what's digitally entered-
Alec: Well, if you feel that way. If you feel that way, I respect your opinion, but, I mean, y'know, 20,000 fans can't be wrong, and not a single one of them have ever said anything.
Chris: Okay well-okay well, l-let me give you a better example on that. Okay, say you got, uh, two letters, two exact same letters from a person, from the same person. One hand-written, and one computerized and printed, which one would you think would have more personality, or would appeal to you better?
Alec: I honestly don't remember the last time anyone wrote me a hand-written letter. I don't even remember the last time I wrote a hand-written letter, I type everything, every kind of- I mean, typing looks more professional.
Chris: Professional, yes, but-
Alec: I mean, hand-written wouldn't get you a job, or anything.
Artist's depiction.
Chris: At least I have had all the practice of hand-writing, and that- there's more character, more personality put into it, in hand-writing versus what you would just see, everyday in a monosynchronic [?] sense.
Alec: Well, you know why you see it everyday, everywhere, Chris? You see it everywhere, because it works. Because that's what people prefer.
Chris: [Sigh]
Alec: Y'know, If I remember right, I think kinda one of the criticisms you had about Asperchu was that it was not completely hand-drawn original. Because I do use Photoshop in part of my creative process, but it sounds like you do kind of the same thing. Which is, you know, that's fine. Digital, digital media is where our world is going, but I thought- see I thought you drew it all on paper and uploaded it.
Chris: I did draw it all on paper. The only part I edit in Photoshop is the text; what you reeead.
Alec: 'Kay, I thought so. Well, it just seems a little hypocritical, but you do use Photoshop in the creative process, but you criticized me for it. Don't you think?
Chris: No, actually, what I thought, is that you skip the hand-drawing and you draw everything on your Photoshop with your computer mouse.
Alec: Well I don't- here's what I do. I do sometimes draw the pages on paper, um, I'm kinda trying to shy away from that because, our society wastes so much paper, so I'm trying to be a little more socially responsible. But what I do, I use a tablet, and I draw on that, and that's basically the same thing as pen and paper, it's, uh, what I draw goes directly on the computer screen. So I don't use a mouse.
Chris: Hmm.
Alec: Yeah, it's the same thing-
Chris: Okay, but still, it looks crappy compared to mine. Even my mother agrees.
Alec: Oh, hey, hey, hey, c'mon that's a little insulting Chris, what do you mean, "crappy"? I mean, my mother says my comic is the most beautiful comic she's ever seen too but, I kind of think that's because she's a supportive mother. You know, mothers are supposed to support their children in their endeavors. And I have, y'know, got 20,000 fans now that love it too. None of them are my mother. My mother doesn't actually use a computer, I just show her the print-outs. [silence] Y'know, I get complimented on my art all the time.
Chris: Hmm.
Alec: I mean, it's okay to disagree. I just, I'm curious why you think it's crappy?
Chris: Because it's computer drawn. It's not originally hand-drawn.
Alec: I just told you, it is hand-drawn. It's hand-drawn on a tablet. What do you mean, it's not an "original hand-drawn?"
Chris: It don't have the old-fashioned original pencil or pen markings, that's what I have.
Alec: So, because I don't have smudge-marks on my paper, is that's what you mean? That was another reason I went with the tablet, because I got a lot of smudge-marks on my paper when I was doing math and I had to spend extra time erasing it. Y'know is- okay, by comparison, could I say that our cars are not true original transportation because people should be using old-fashioned horses? You use Photoshop for lettering and effects. We're one in the same here, Chris.
Chris: [sigh]
Alec: And-and again, I just don't see why, the exact method I use to draw determines the skill of my art. Weren't you um, I remember recently, didn't you put, like, a live picture of yourself in your comic for some Guitar Hero theme? I mean, you didn't draw that part in, did you?[3]
Chris: I-I-It at least allows me, to put myself in my work. See, a bigger difference between drawing with a tablet or mouse versus hand-drawn is that you see more personality with the orig- with the pen-marking, and color—and marker coloring versus what's... what's digitally entered-
Alec: Well, if you feel that way. If you feel that way, I respect your opinion, but, I mean, y'know, 20,000 fans can't be wrong, and not a single one of them have ever said anything.
Chris: Okay well-okay well, l-let me give you a better example on that. Okay, say you got, uh, two letters, two exact same letters from a person, from the same person. One hand-written, and one computerized and printed, which one would you think would have more personality, or would appeal to you better?
Alec: I honestly don't remember the last time anyone wrote me a hand-written letter. I don't even remember the last time I wrote a hand-written letter, I type everything, every kind of- I mean, typing looks more professional.
Chris: Professional, yes, but-
Alec: I mean, hand-written wouldn't get you a job, or anything.
Artist's depiction.
Chris: At least I have had all the practice of hand-writing, and that- there's more character, more personality put into it, in hand-writing versus what you would just see, everyday in a monosynchronic [?] sense.
Alec: Well, you know why you see it everyday, everywhere, Chris? You see it everywhere, because it works. Because that's what people prefer.
Chris: [Sigh]
Sometimes I think people got a liiiittle bit unfair with Chris (I know he deserves it but obv. I'm kind of a "fan"), like when Kacey deliberately misinterpreted what Chris was saying about Clyde Cash not being dead, and stuff.
Or I guess, most likely I just got a bit butthurt because I"m a fountain pen lover and I have exchanged letters. I like to get something in the mail that's worth getting in the mail, you know? Something worth receiving. I wouldn't say that digital art is lacking in character (well, compare MS Paint line tool to a tablet with pressure control - it's a spectrum), but other than that, yeah I pretty much agree with Chris 100%. Except for his own usage of fucking Comic Sans (A big dumb peeve of mine is when in comics, the lettering doesn't match the art. That means, digital font over clearly hand-drawn imagery grates on my nerves. It's a stupid thing, I know)
That and, what's the usage of paper compared to the usage of electricity to run a computer to draw on with the tablet. But that's a whole 'nother topic, so anyway.
How about you? Don't be ashamed if you've ever felt a bit more on his side on certain topics.
) act normal and function in public.
