Do You Want Kids? - General "Have Kids!" Sperging Thread [for or against that sentiment]

Duncan Hills Coffee

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I don't want kids for two specific reasons.

The first one is that I hate little kids. They're like little ticking time bombs, either about to break something or burst crying. Whenever I have to look after them or even be near them I get really nervous that something is going to happen. I just find them incredibly stressful to deal with and that's not something I want to go through day after day.

Granted, it is different when it's your own kid. And I fully believe that I wouldn't feel this way if it were my own. But that leads me to my second point.

Whenever I have to look after something vulnerable, like a baby animal or something, I worry myself sick. I'm constantly scared something is going to happen to them. I just want whatever it is to be absolutely safe. And this is for things like kittens or equally defenseless animals. If I had a kid, I'd die of a stress-induced heart attack within a couple years.

Thing is, I also worry about the possibility of regretting it later on; I've read a bunch of horror stories about people who never had kids and ended up either miserable or suicidal. I don't want to be one of those people either.
 

Velvet Sedan

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Not against having kids. Sadly I'm sterile so I can't make them myself.
Would adopt but fuck if it isn't this giant expensive hassle where I live.
Plus I'm single anyway, wouldn't want kids to go without another parent to rely on.
In the meantime I just help my friend's kids.
 

Deadly Nightshade

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I do want kids because muh genetics but am scared of raising them due to my own mental baggage and fear of getting into an abusive relationship with some scrote like my sisters are going through - all due to our parents being in a toxic relationship as well as being abusive in the past, especially towards me because I was an illegitimate child on my mom’s side.

In a few months I’ll be a wizard and not sure how many dudes will be interested in 30 year-old spinsters to start a family, besides I’m not financially ready anyway.

However, I’ve started developing maternal instincts towards my 9 months-old nephew once I’ve started babysitting for pay and whom I sometimes call him “my son” as he’s the only kid who likes me while the slightly older ones think I’m a weirdo. So at least there’s that.

Edit: if I am not in a stable relationship with kids by the time I’m in my mid-30’s, I’m going to a sperm bank.
 
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Lemmingwise

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I don't want kids for two specific reasons.

The first one is that I hate little kids. They're like little ticking time bombs, either about to break something or burst crying. Whenever I have to look after them or even be near them I get really nervous that something is going to happen. I just find them incredibly stressful to deal with and that's not something I want to go through day after day.

Granted, it is different when it's your own kid. And I fully believe that I wouldn't feel this way if it were my own. But that leads me to my second point.

Whenever I have to look after something vulnerable, like a baby animal or something, I worry myself sick. I'm constantly scared something is going to happen to them. I just want whatever it is to be absolutely safe. And this is for things like kittens or equally defenseless animals. If I had a kid, I'd die of a stress-induced heart attack within a couple years.

Thing is, I also worry about the possibility of regretting it later on; I've read a bunch of horror stories about people who never had kids and ended up either miserable or suicidal. I don't want to be one of those people either.
Pretty much complete opposite to this. Any kid struggles don't faze me, their retardation and wonder amuses me. Yeah they break stuff and cry, but you get to experience everything as new through their eyes.

And having seen the regret in a lot of childless old people and how they fawn over other people's children makes me a lot sadder than the tribulations of the commitment it is.
 

The Curmudgeon

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I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the the quality of men's sperm declines starting at age 35. If you already know this, then sorry for being redundant. Sure, men produce sperm all their lives, but it stops being good sperm once you hit 35. I looked this up because I was curious regarding my own circumstances. Of course, it's your life and you can have kids after 35 if you want! But don't be surprised if they end up with birth defects.

With that said, and I have to powerlevel a little just to make this point, I'm in my late thirties. Closing in on 40. I'm okay with that, but I accept that if I did change my mind and wanted kids that it would be a bad idea at this point.
 

Hellbound Hellhound

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There is definitely a part of me that would quite like to have a family someday, but it's not something I want to pursue anytime soon.

I am enjoying life as a bachelor, and if I ever did want to settle down, it would only be once I've reached a level of financial stability where I could provide a family with a comfortable living; preferably in a fairly rural setting, similar to my own upbringing.

I'm also of the belief that it's generally better for men to become parents later in life, when life has slowed down somewhat, and you possess a certain amount of wisdom that can be passed on to the next generation. Personally, I can't see myself becoming a dad before I'm 50.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the the quality of men's sperm declines starting at age 35.
This is only statistically true, and the statistics for complications are still relatively low. With advances in genetic screening, it's also increasingly possible to intervene and prevent complications.
 

Croan Çhiollee

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I won't have kids because of my upbringing, which was filled with abuse and neglect (I often joke that I'm breaking the chain of bad fathers in my family).
I made a conscious decision about 15 years ago and got a vasectomy, so that pretty much guarantees it. I can honestly say now (at 45) it's the one decision that I will regret, but I'd regret ruining some innocent child's life more.
I am surrounded by people with babies at the moment, and it's the most beautiful thing I've ever seen. One of the guys I work with got the call to get to the hospital last week, and the look of excitement and terror in his eyes was a beautiful sight. He will experience a side of life that I never will, and he will be a more complete man that I ever can be.
I heartily encourage people to have kids, I think it is literally the best thing you can ever do. I believe it manifests a higher plane of existence, and even if you post on kiwifarms, you can be the best thing to ever happen to someone who doesn't even exist yet.
 

ChaChaHeels:BlackOnes

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I was never particularly interested in having kids, never played with baby dolls, didn’t fantasise about getting married etc and wasn’t interested in books or chick flicks with narratives that suggested these things were desirable.

... but ended up happily married with two kids I birthed out and some extras. It’s not always been easy, some of the kids in my life have fairly complex needs (including one with serious, life threatening illness) but there really is no emotion comparable to that fierce desire to protect, love and nurture a small pathetic human that would just die if you left it under a bush.
It’s like having a kitten or a puppy only a million times more intense.
I’ve already managed to keep one alive to the cusp of adulthood and am looking forward to someday being a grandma (or maybe being a grandma type figure in an unrelated child’s life, if mine decide they don’t want kids).

I don’t doubt that it’s possible to have a perfectly fulfilling life that doesn’t involve offspring, most of my same age friends haven’t bothered but the elderly childless ladies I know are pretty bitter and selfish in their twilight years (and envious of their friends’ and siblings’ families) but I expect they are a product of their time and future childless old ladies will be more common (due to contraception) more fulfilled (due to better workplace opportunities) and are more likely to have actively chosen to be child free (as those who are unhappily infertile have more options due to reproductive technology advancements/donor gametes etc, which is a whole other complicated subject).

So yeah. I like mine/mine by marriage/mine by adoption. Still not particularly keen on other people’s kids (but would likely fight any paedo/child abuser on behalf of even the most unlikeable kiddy) and hate kids en mass (fuck being a teacher! That would be my nightmare).
 

Vingle

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Only if I can donate my sperm. I'm okay with getting a bunch of kids on my door one day, it's not like they would get something from it. Aside from me existing.
 

Dildo

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I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the the quality of men's sperm declines starting at age 35. If you already know this, then sorry for being redundant. Sure, men produce sperm all their lives, but it stops being good sperm once you hit 35. I looked this up because I was curious regarding my own circumstances. Of course, it's your life and you can have kids after 35 if you want! But don't be surprised if they end up with birth defects.

With that said, and I have to powerlevel a little just to make this point, I'm in my late thirties. Closing in on 40. I'm okay with that, but I accept that if I did change my mind and wanted kids that it would be a bad idea at this point.

There is a small increase in a chance for disabilities when the father is older, but this is minute and generally the age of the mother is the more influential factor here.

Look at the Middle and Far East where older men regularly take wives younger than themselves and have lots of relatively healthy children. Historically elsewhere in the world that was the norm as well.
 

Fanatical Pragmatist

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I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the the quality of men's sperm declines starting at age 35. If you already know this, then sorry for being redundant. Sure, men produce sperm all their lives, but it stops being good sperm once you hit 35. I looked this up because I was curious regarding my own circumstances. Of course, it's your life and you can have kids after 35 if you want! But don't be surprised if they end up with birth defects.

With that said, and I have to powerlevel a little just to make this point, I'm in my late thirties. Closing in on 40. I'm okay with that, but I accept that if I did change my mind and wanted kids that it would be a bad idea at this point.
Statistically speaking, yes.
But 35 is not a magic wall that once men hit they are already pumping out CWC 100% of the time, its the point in which the odds of pumping out a CWC slowly increase.
Realistically odds are still in your favor late 30's (or like if you have 4 kids 3 will be fine 1 will be a sped), but as men start to get into their 50's (*generally speaking/statistically speaking*) then the odds really get up there.
By the time you're in your mid-60's you can basically bet on pumping out a little CWC.

This also leaves out genetic predisposition.
An autistic man at age 25 is more likely to pop out another autist than a non-autist at age 40.

There is a small increase in a chance for disabilities when the father is older, but this is minute and generally the age of the mother is the more influential factor here.

Look at the Middle and Far East where older men regularly take wives younger than themselves and have lots of relatively healthy children. Historically elsewhere in the world that was the norm as well.
The Middle East is loaded with genetic disorders, but that might be more due to cousin marriage than age gap marriage.
 

Me? I'm Tight As Fuck

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Not a chance I'd have a kid. I never plan to. If I end up with someone who wants kids (current S/O presently never wants kids either, we'll wait for vaginal instinct to change her mind), I'll adopt. I'm too fucked in the head to provide a reasonable and stable home for someone, and the world is too fucked. My experience has been lots of suffering (on my part and others) and little reprieve. Why would I want to force someone else to do this? I'm enjoying my life and I'm not gonna kill myself but if I could have passed on this shit? I might have.
 

A Clockwork Soybean

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I'm an only child. My parents didn't have me until they were both well past their most fertile years. Possibly as a result, I ended up with a relatively mild form of the 'tism. I don't think there's genetic component, so no while I'm not worried about passing it on to my own potential children, I can't help but resent my own parents for bringing me into the world this way. I want to leave some legacy behind, so I would like to have as many children as possible, ideally before my own fertility starts to wain.

Unfortunately, I would never be able to support a child in my current situation, much less a big family. Besides, I'm not sure the world they'd grow up to would be worth living in anyway. They'd probably just troon out or turn into pod dwellers anyway.
 

Jimmy Hopkins

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I definitely don’t want kids. My mom always told me I’d change my mind when I grew up, boy was she wrong. Currently in a living situation where I’m with a baby and Jesus Christ it makes me despise the little cocksuckers even more. Keep your freedom fellow kiwis, don’t have your whole life handcuffed to a cunt-faced little whiner and a raggety jabbering wife.
 

Pokemonquistador2

Electric Boogaloo
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I would have liked to have kids, but I feel I'm too mentally messed up to share my life with a live-in partner. The sad thing is, I have several siblings who were also so mentally messed up that they never had kids, and most are too old to do so now. So I don't even have the solace of getting a niece or nephew to spoil. Watching my mother on her death bed crying that she had no grandchildren was heart-piercing. I know a person shouldn't just have kids for selfish reasons (like having a caretaker in old age or someone to pass your genes on,) but there are good things to be said for having kids, and not every person who's childless posts on r/childfree and thinks babies are an abomination. Some are regretting the necessity of their decision.

Edit: Jesus Christ, Jimmy Hopkins. The baby isn't trying to make your life a living hell. Please don't turn him into a serial killer...
 

Fliddaroonie

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Not a chance I'd have a kid. I never plan to. If I end up with someone who wants kids (current S/O presently never wants kids either, we'll wait for vaginal instinct to change her mind), I'll adopt. I'm too fucked in the head to provide a reasonable and stable home for someone, and the world is too fucked. My experience has been lots of suffering (on my part and others) and little reprieve. Why would I want to force someone else to do this? I'm enjoying my life and I'm not gonna kill myself but if I could have passed on this shit? I might have.
If you are too fucked in the head to provide for your own biological child, you're too fucked to look after an adopted one.
 

NeoGAF Lurker

An Niggo
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A lot of it comes down to finding the right person too. When I was banging thots who had no maternal instincts, I didn’t want children. My wife when I met her was pretty far to the left (she is a teacher), didn’t want kids and thought open borders was a good idea. However as soon as we talked about family and I said it was a great thing, she changed her tune pretty quickly and talked about how she always wanted a big family. She changed overall once she could be honest with what she wanted instead of kiked-out expectations that millions of women require psychiatric medication for just to get by. It helps that I’m able to afford supporting a large family. She is much happier too now that we’re truly honest about what we want.

The (((brainwashing))) is pretty insidious overall. However if you don’t find the right person, I completely understand why anyone would not want kids.
 
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