Does 4chan "produce" more sound people than tumblr? -

[Putato]

I've wondered, for as rude and horrible as it can be, people who seem to have spent their teen years (14-17) on 4chan, tend to be more mentally sound and self assured than people who spent their time on tumblr as the same ages.

This is something that I've noticed in my own personal experience.
At 15 and 16, I was something of an emotional wreck, or emo for lack of the better term. (It was 2006, emo was in, at least) I also discovered the horror of /b/ at the time.

While this would seem like a recipe for disaster (suicidal kid on /b/) it actually did more to help me than you would think. I was taught to not take myself so seriously. To not take anyone else seriously at all. Especially on the internet, where everyone is a loser and no one is that important.

Then I look at people who are using tumblr now and how emotionally fragile they are. Even though tumblr seems to have the mentality of "no one is more important than you and your feelings. uw u"

Is it because of tumblr people's USI that makes them so fragile? That any mean anon that comes around, is enough to shatter their illusion of self esteem? Is it the insistence and rewarding of victim complexes, which itself stifles self actualization?

You'd think that the website that is so ego stoking would produce the people with thicker skin, not the one that tells you that "no one cares" when you pour your heart out.


tl;dr- Why is it that people who grew up in chan culture have thicker skin than the same age groups who grew up in tumblr culture?

 

[GS 281]

tl;dr- Why is it that people who grew up in chan culture have thicker skin than the same age groups who grew up in tumblr culture?

I wouldn't say that people in chan culture have thicker skin at all. I think that the qualities of how people in chan culture and people in tumblr culture approach the internet are relatively different, however the elements which constitute "thicker skin" are widely distributed between the two with meager instances of overlap.

In "chan culture", sharing personal details of one's life is looked at as being a bad idea. Letting people know embarrassing details of your life is thought of as exposing your vulnerabilities, hence people have become conditioned to not share personal details, lest they will be ball busted or trolled upon for doing so and the overall purpose of their message would be lost. I would not classify this as being evidence of thick skin at all. Being hesitant about sharing personal details at all seems to be the antithesis of thick skin. Being open and confident about life experience and knowing you will be called a faggot and not caring would be thick skin.

In "tumblr culture" the approach is completely different. People are encouraged to share private thoughts and feelings. Expressing your sexuality, orientation unique perceptions of self are encouraged. The problem with this is that no one is there to challenge them. There is no debate about outlying ideas, generally it is all accepted. This here would be evidence of a lack of "thick skin" in the tumblr community.

Both the "chan community" and the "tumblr community" lack thick skin, but have the energy to express disdain or private feelings and it manifests in things such as "SJW v. MRA" and the whole gamergate saga as these become proxy battles where they get it out of their system. I will say though that this is mainly for the one third on each sidewhere there is no overlap. I would estimate that there is substantial overlap.

To the initial question on soundness, not necessarily. On one side, you have people who design boundaries for their discussion that are too tight for there to be an exploration of new ideas because the purpose of exploration and critique is generally to troll someone and not entertain new ideas and on the other so many new ideas are described but none of them explored and critiqued. On one side people will tell you your idea is horrible because you didn't dot one i or cross one t according to how their world view ascribes. The other will accept anything.

 

[ULTIMATEPRIMETIME]

in all honesty i think if a website raises you, then you're going to turn into a nerd regardless of the site. however, certain sites do attract certain people. tumblr is specifically designed so that you only see the blogs and opinions you want, which attracts those more prone to hugboxing, but that is not how the world works. the 'chans force you to contribute to all types of discussion with people who have differing opinions, and no one is afraid about offending each other because no one knows anybody. in image board culture, absolutely no one cares about who you are. this helps with discussion because it forcibly takes the spotlight off of you. attention whores hate this, but more humble people will gravitate to such a site.

tl;dr: people get along better when everyone is equally a nigger.

 

[Putato]

in all honesty i think if a website raises you, then you're going to turn into a nerd regardless of the site

I will never deny that I am a pasty, white, nerd who spends too much time playing video games. I work in IT for Christ's sake!
Edit: I also had 0 irl friends at the time.

however, certain sites do attract certain people. tumblr is specifically designed so that you only see the blogs and opinions you want, which attracts those more prone to hugboxing, but that is not how the world works. the 'chans force you to contribute to all types of discussion with people who have differing opinions, and no one is afraid about offending each other because no one knows anybody. in image board culture, absolutely no one cares about who you are. this helps with discussion because it forcibly takes the spotlight off of you. attention whores hate this, but more humble people will gravitate to such a site.

I can see this being part of the reason. Then again, I never had a "serious discussion" while on 4chan. Mostly just laughing at stupid people being stupid, and downloading porn. Closest I got to a "debate" when an argument on /y/ about the presence of shotacon.


@yawning sneasel So it's two sides of the same coin in your opinion? One shares too little and questions everything while the other shares too much and questions nothing?
Personally I don't share my life story to strangers. I think that's a bad idea. Especially if it's somewhere where ANYONE can see it. Posting on a mental health board with other people who know what it is and isn't is one thing. Posting it where anyone, educated and experienced or not, can chirp in is a bad idea in my opinion.

 

[GS 281]

@yawning sneasel So it's two sides of the same coin in your opinion? One shares too little and questions everything while the other shares too much and questions nothing?
Personally I don't share my life story to strangers. I think that's a bad idea. Especially if it's somewhere where ANYONE can see it. Posting on a mental health board with other people who know what it is and isn't is one thing. Posting it where anyone, educated and experienced or not, can chirp in is a bad idea in my opinion.

I don't think this is accurate and I believe if this is entirely true that no one would be of any value to the community.

 

[Putato]

I don't think this is accurate and I believe if this is entirely true that no one would be of any value to the community.

Fair point. I'm just trying to clarify. But I feel like when you get people who have 0 factual knowledge on the subject matter informing others about it, it just leads to a breeding of misinformation, which can also lead to confusion of trying to sift through to find actual facts.

 

[nad7155]

No.

 

[AnOminous]

4chan produces people who are staggering autists in a million different ways. I still vastly prefer them to the scum from tumblr.

 

[Putato]

4chan produces people who are staggering autists in a million different ways. I still vastly prefer them to the scum from tumblr.

EG: Anyone and everyone on the farms.

 

[XYZpdq]

I don't bother with Tumblr, but I definitely notice that the forums I go by that enforce niceness end up dragged down with a lot of passive-aggressive bullshit toeing the line of what the mods consider an infraction instead of just saying "ur a fag" like any self-respecting chan would.

 

[KingGeedorah]

Both need to get off the internet and go outside.

We got a generation of shitty, nerdy STEM worshiping, anti-social loveshys getting ready to breed and have families. Not a bright future.

 

[AnOminous]

Both need to get off the internet and go outside.

We got a generation of shitty, nerdy STEM worshiping, anti-social loveshys getting ready to breed and have families. Not a bright future.

STEM is the shit, though.

STEM actually does shit that needs to be done.

Dangerhair doesn't.

 

[KingGeedorah]

STEM is the shit, though.

STEM actually does shit that needs to be done.

Dangerhair doesn't.

Yeah dude of course STEM is the shit. It covers areas that are needed to function at a decent level in society.

That being said, fields of study such as history, education, lawyering and law, auto repair (kinda a STEM-lite career), and culinary arts have a place in college to be studied. As well they should!

It's just the weird elite culture that STEM ( and obviously Liberal Arts) students seem to breed.

 

[Pikimon]

Yeah dude of course STEM is the shit. It covers areas that are needed to function at a decent level in society.

That being said, fields of study such as history, education, lawyering and law, auto repair (kinda a STEM-lite career), and culinary arts have a place in collage to be studied. As well they should!

It's just the weird elite culture that STEM ( and obviously Liberal Arts) students seem to breed.

Except us Psych students. We're outcasts because neither the Liberal Arts nor STEM like us.

 

[AnOminous]

Except us Psych students. We're outcasts because neither the Liberal Arts nor STEM like us.

That's because you're a bunch of faggots!

 

[Clown Doll]

At 15 and 16, I was something of an emotional wreck, or emo for lack of the better term. (It was 2006, emo was in, at least) I also discovered the horror of /b/ at the time.
While this would seem like a recipe for disaster (suicidal kid on /b/) it actually did more to help me than you would think. I will never deny that I am a pasty, white, nerd who spends too much time playing video games. I work in IT for Christ's sake! Edit: I also had 0 irl friends at the time. Closest I got to a "debate" when an argument on /y/ about the presence of shotacon.

Personally I don't share my life story to strangers. I think that's a bad idea.

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You're on a trolling website that documents dysfunctional people whose problem is that they overshare intimate details to complete strangers when they aren't requested and you're telling us about being suicidal, having no friends and debating the ethics of using drawings of underage boys as wank fodder on a board dedicated to jerking off to gay(well, gayer than usual ) animeys.

 

[Pikimon]

That's because you're a bunch of faggots!

You laugh now, but when we lock you in our dungeon/research facility and make you stare at endless slideshows and then filling out questionnaires later you won't be laughing as much.

 

[Organic Fapcup]

Depends on the board. /v/ is full of autists, /vg/ is full of autists but a little more chill, /pol/ is full of autists who are pretty much SJW, except they jerk off over Trump and Hitler. Given that nobody takes /pol/ seriously, Tumblr produces worse people since there's a few people who actually take their shit seriously. Oh and you won't find anyone on an imageboard crying over getting called a faggot, which is a nice bonus.

 

[Clown Doll]

Oh and you won't find anyone on an imageboard crying over getting called a faggot

Optimistic.
I don't believe that imageboard users are any more "thicker-skinned" than most people in non-dangerhair internet, it's just simply that there are less enforced rules that would make people to filter their output. People get mad about word choices on imageboards like they would everywhere else, but most realize that it's futile.

The big difference is that an anon doesn't take getting shittalked personally, whereas the Tumblrina does.

I guess I've imagined all of those people who've gotten absolutely hulking mad when people make fun of their nationalities, hobbies or videogame systems. I guess we have had different personal experiences with posters then.

 

[Organic Fapcup]

Optimistic.
I don't believe that imageboard users are any more "thicker-skinned" than most people in non-dangerhair internet, it's just simply that there are less enforced rules that would make people to filter their output. People get mad about word choices on imageboards like they would everywhere else, but most realize that it's futile.

The amount of shitflinging that goes on on an imageboard means that your average anon is plenty used to it. A guy calls anon a faggot, anon calls him a faggot back and goes on with his day. In comparison, if you called your stereotypical Tumblrina a faggot, she'd go on a tirade about how much of a homophobe you are, or reply with a passive-aggressive post about how much of a homophobe you are.

The big difference is that an anon doesn't take getting shittalked personally, whereas the Tumblrina does. When the anon does take it personally, it usually means reddit gold for someone on r/4chan.