Does anyone else genuinely miss the 2000s? -

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I'm mad I never got to trade Pokemon on a bus and I never got to properly explore a Hastings while listening to Paramore on a 4gb iPod.

Bring back incandescent bulbs and analog TV, I miss How I Met Your Mother and those weird memory card stands at the electronics' section at Walmarts.
 

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I'd argue that it was a better decade than 2010 but to be honest I'd split it, anything up to 2005 was ok, post 2007 the rot had started to set in. This is all from personal reflection so take with a grain of salt.

Point in case, the ass end of the 90s was fun, most people didn't have computers or internet and if you were smart or willing to learn you could interact with people only via things like BBS or some of the very primitive web browsers, (You used to be able to get an internet yellow pages, no joke.) Netscape was a god send, and around 97/98 is when things started to take off with faster modems 56k and more people getting PC's.

You also had access to a lot of stuff via piracy, that used to have to be manually traded like older computer games, and dare I say it the very primitive exchanges and hiding on the family computer of porn, or in my case the discovery of my older brothers folder. And then the P2P explosion with Kazaa, Napster, and I can't remember the other multitudes.

That said it was a happier time, the internet wasn't this over powerful thing that took up a majority of ones time, you had internet time mandated usually by phone usage and so connectivity 24/7 wasn't guaranteed. It was also at least for me a better time in regards to television.

The saying lesser choices makes a happier person was as true then as it was now, 3 channels which you knew what you wanted to watch made infinitely better viewing than the satellite TV upgrades that followed, it was around 2002 that conventional 90's TV started to die off and be replaced by reality TV shows, once 24/7 multi-channel TV became the norm this only brought in the decline on network television programming quality.

TLC used to actually be about documentaries and learning, history used to be about semi-decent war documentaries, etc.

By 2006 you started getting the introduction of rap style music into pop music, which was already flaccid at this point because of diminishing returns from shit like American Idol, everything was just generic from that point and got more generic. TV basically became generic too, for everyone one good TV show it would inspire clunky clones, like the original CSI and then hit a point where it just became boring because like House could only cure so many cases of Lupus, you could only murder someone so many ways.

By 2008 every asshole seemed to have an internet connection and Facebook was in its infancy and fun because it replaced a lot of the trepidation out of online social interactions. The info was actually genuinely useful too, like looking if people were dating beforehand, etc. You could use it successfully as your wingman in some cases.

That was also the time that I had started studying, and I was fortunate in the fact that my university wasn't overtly liberal but had a decent mix. That said my favorite instructors were both seniors faculty at the school and they'd lecture the class over things that were going to be incoming, I still remember the English professor openly speaking about the changes to academia which meant that speech laws were going to get restrictive. We all thought it was mad at the time, though privately I held her in high esteem and my biology teacher as well, because he didn't mince words either when it came to things like biology and race.

This was of course back when gay rights and gay marriage were still crusader issues and so trannies weren't on the horizon. If they passed, nobody said anything because no one cared, if they were a man in a dress it would invite derision, but honestly never once encountered a tranny or a furry who was brave enough to be open with that shit in public.

By 2010 twitter had been a new creation, and since I'd already grown disillusioned with the brigading that had started appearing on Facebook, where people weren't posting honest opinions anymore because anything right of centre was called out, by people who wouldn't have the balls to mention it to you IRL or people were just sharing the same old shit over and over again. No one was posting anything original either. At that point I kind of gave up on any meaningful social media interactions, something had changed and now it was more a source of negativity than enjoyment.

Smartphones were already a thing, and were going to become more of a thing as people converted over. I'd lived like a savage for two years without any cell phone or house phone. (Best two years of my life.) So it was a culture shock when suddenly everyone had one, and of course the better they got meant more access, more social media, more shit.

It's been downhill from there on in, I honestly believe that.
I've always thought of 2007 as the end of an epoch, I really couldn't pinpoint why, other than that it was the year the iphone was first released, but it was just something I could feel in my bones at the time and looking back it really does mark the end of an era for American history.

You know I think you really hit on something here. I think internet access an thus constant access to social media and the news is what makes our current time suck so much. When the internet was confined to one room of your house it created this separation between your online identity and real life identity that made the internet feel more like this fun abstract space and that no longer exists. Now the internet is serious business and people literally kill themselves over getting bullied on Twitter because mean words online carry just as much weight as mean words in real life. The internet itself is not the problem, but the pervasiveness of it is. People just can't handle 24/7 access.
I always used to think of the internet as a sort of alternate reality, one that should stay separate from the real world, trying to blend the internet with reality has proven disastrous.

The pervasiveness and addictive nature of social media is a recipe for disaster (sounds cheesy I know). I see parents give children or even babies smart devices to shut them up, when out somewhere like a restaurant. Imagine the mental and emotional damage upcoming generations will have to deal with, because of shit like this. Wouldn't be surprising if newborn babies started getting social media accounts made for them, like a modern day birth cert.
On a trip to Walt Disney World in 2015 I rode their bus line one night sitting right next to a dad and his toddler daughter while he held a phone in front of her face so she could watch a cartoon, I was pretty disturbed by that.
 
My Biology teacher outright told us all that gays are nature's mistakes; crossed wires in their heads, but that it's okay they arent hurting anyone. She also said that transexuals are just sexual deviants who made their fetish into their personality and that it's an extraordinarily unhealthy mentality. This was well before the troon uprising too.

Looking back she was pretty cool, hope she's doing well.
He had a similar view that homosexuals shouldn't be prejudged or excluded from society because they were effectively defective and natures dead end. He was more candid with his views towards transexuals, personally thinking they were joke and anyone taking them seriously also was a joke as well.

Damn, I never knew bio teachers could be like that. My experience with them was mostly uppity nerd shits. Also, that the more genetically diverse you are the longer your life would be or something like that.
The funny thing was is that he was totally what you would have classified as the classical nerd archtype and he definitely knew his subject, though he'd come to the conclusion that facts over all else mattered and he loved practical/experimental biology and laboratory work for this reason.

He was the type of guy who would say it's only true if the hard science backs it up, otherwise its purely theoretical, which was why he hated aspects of the woman's and genders studies disciplines, because 90% of it was couched in psuedo-science.

Now this was pre-witch hunt days, but he was already getting pissed off with the waves of speech policing that had started to get mandated in. And he unlike my English professor hadn't gotten tenure, so he had to tread quietly and didn't really speak as candidly in class as he did in private.

I've always thought of 2007 as the end of an epoch, I really couldn't pinpoint why, other than that it was the year the iphone was first released, but it was just something I could feel in my bones at the time and looking back it really does mark the end of an era for American history.
It definitely was the end of an era or at least the last great stumbling point before breaking into completely uncharted territory. It's hard to describe, because of course it's subjective to ourselves, but realistically the 80s to the midpoint 98 was the last period of time that any children born would have a childhood traditionally similar to that in line with their parents complete experience. By the 2000's it had already changed, and by the end on 2007 change irrevocably.

Not to sound nostalgic, but rather introspective the reason I say our generation was to have the last in line of what was mainly common to our parents is in part to the fact that it wasn't until the mid 2000's that most of the mass adoption of technology not just by adults, but by children and adolescents became a reality.

Think about it like this growing up in the 90's prior to the mid point with the internet explosion a world where the vast majority of people relied on telephones for communication and computers were still not a commonplace item in most family homes, the ability to be constantly glued and clued in to ones social media, to contact friends at a moments notice, or develop an overwhelming reliance on technology for everything wasn't a reality.

It was also a point where you didn't have the internet as a constant point of reference. Now that's not necessarily a bad thing, but I think it has in some part had a lot to do with the over diagnosis of things like mental health issues, and the rise in diagnosis for Autism and ADHD, which in itself I see as a social problem.

It's also been the major point where there has been large spikes in depression, and I think that again it's something that people will be able to look back on at some point and see a correlation between the explosion of home entertainment and internet usage, sedentary lifestyle choices, loss of actual meaningful social interactions, instead of online or ersatz formats and increases in long term basic depression.

This is a different subject for discussion entirely, but people are meant to move, meant to interact, to fight, to play, we don't and it has a baseline effect not just on our waistlines but also majorly on our mental health.
 
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The internet is majorly used by a certain generation that is now reaching the point in life when our parents would've settled down and laughed over the bullshit they did as kids that ultimately lead to them getting together.

I went to NorCal and a mall in Oregon, and I could really feel that "run around as kids" vibe, but it also seemed intensely depressing. A hole in nowhere with all its commerce isolated in one building. Desert in all directions, no opportunities to educate well and work better.

Here in northern Europe, I do not miss anything from the 00s. I miss that people were available and willing however. GTA V online was a great socializing space. MH:W was a game everyone bought with huge coop potential. D&D took off again, yet nobody engaged in it, they just watched podcasts.

We have all the same "that'd be cool" concepts in new shapes, but we lack the social framework to pursue it. People make out their lives to be 5 times as hectic as they are, so nobody got time for going on a walk. You could get nostalgia down to a formula of reaching a % of your expected life, and sighing for that point in time minus another percentage. When kids in the future can Deep AI their perfect porn; we'll go "back in my day, we had a favorite whore ruining her holes for our pleasure".
 

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The internet is majorly used by a certain generation that is now reaching the point in life when our parents would've settled down and laughed over the bullshit they did as kids that ultimately lead to them getting together.
And they are angry because they are unable to settle down for structural and nonstructural reasons
 

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Yes, they were the best years of my life. Early 20's living downtown, great little apartment, roommate who was also my bestie, working in a coffee shop, going to warehouse parties, sleeping my way through the bike Messengers of Baltimore. Yeah, I get nostalgic.
I always wanted that lifestyle but now it's either too pricey or just unavailable since those spaces got commercialized.
 

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I always wanted that lifestyle but now it's either too pricey or just unavailable since those spaces got commercialized.
It was too pricey for me as an adult in the late 2000s. I'm guessing most posters in this thread were kids in the 2000s. It's normal to want to relive the decade of your childhood years as your independant, adult self since you only have the limited view of the decade from your childhood. I feel that way about the 90s but I'm sure it was a boring as any other decade to most adults living in it.
 
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It was too pricey for me as an adult in the late 2000s. I'm guessing most posters in this thread were kids in the 2000s. It's normal to want to relive the decade of your childhood years as your independant, adult self since you only have the limited view of the decade from your childhood. I feel that way about the 90s but I'm sure it was a boring as any other decade to most adults living in it.
I don't know though. The club music I keep hearing from either decade was really good. A lot of what was good in those times seemed to come from that dance scene you just mentioned. House, dubstep and break beat were ascendant, the fashion was it's own lighter and laid back take on the 90s and 80s, and people just felt younger overall since our biggest content providers (both Old and New Media) genuinely were. Now everyone on YouTube is 30 with few exceptions, everyone in Hollywood is 50, the dance music is good but nobody actually dances to it and it's a straight copy of 90s fashion at its tamest.
 

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The 2000's had a delightfully weird theme to it and gaming in the 2004-2007 were some of the best yet. Internet forums were always their own tight knit community with a sense of belonging (context: this is the only internet forum I connect with at a meaningful level these days) . YouTube was the best in 2007 and 2008 with the advent of counterculture edginess and general weirdness because the concept of a budget was beyond luxury. You just made good content and that's all you needed.

This decade started and stopped at 2010 for me. 2011-2016 was a shitty point in my life, and now that we live in a clown world I have no hope 2020-2030 will ever build up to something iconic. Everything has been done before. The only things of note this decade is usable portable internet browsing and progress with North Korea.
 
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No. I was just as paranoid and scared for the future but the political consciousness wasn't there. At least now I have people to talk to that even if we don't agree on everything we can agree on what the problems are and where they come from.
 
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I have a soft spot for the very early 2000s, though I think what I missed most about it was the kind of life I led during that time. It was before I could drive and I remember vividly how much I enjoyed walking everywhere and how good it felt even if I was walking for miles. I remember when if my mom wouldn't take me to the comic book shop I'd just head across town all by myself on foot or ride my bike. I remember hanging out behind stores and goofing off with my friends, doing parkour and drinking cream sodas. I looked up to my friends, they were my heroes. Genuine mad lads each and every one. Of course I was so much braver and impressionable then and we got up to all sorts of shenanigans, pushing ourselves and each other to be even better than the day before. I haven't met anyone like them since and that world I knew sometimes feels like a fleeting dream.
 

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The 00s were the start of Current Year, but it wasn't as extreme as it is today. Also technology was less invasive -- no smartphones until 2007. Also soyboys weren't a thing yet.
 
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I was a kid then so yeah I miss it. I didn't have to worry about anything except watching cartoons and going to school. Plus Cheetos Asteroids existed at that time so yeah it was better.
 
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Born in 86 and I think I miss the 90's more than the 00's. I miss not being available all the time, and if you don't use social media nowadays it's like you don't exist at all. I miss not having to get in contact with all that exceptional shit on twitter or whatever, voluntary or otherwise and not having an US president behave like the exceptional individual he is on twitter.. I almost pity the Gen Z whose entire existence seems to depend on the internet.

The early 00's introduced me to emulation though (NESticle, ZSNES etc.), so there's that.

What I don't miss is the prices for PC hardware. I miss LAN parties and trading cracked games and porn via local. I still remember the first porn I ever got via LAN at my neighbors (it involved Tera Patrick) back in 1999.

Both decades had some pretty shitty music though.
 
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Good riddance.

But to be serious, I'd probably pick the time around 2010 to be the comfiest. Lot of my favorite content came from here and life was somewhat stable.
Yeah 2010 was pretty dope.
Yeah, 2010 was a great year, you could feel things moving away from the “post-9/11” era and though people were still dealing with the Great Recession you had every reason to be hopeful for the 2010s.

In hindsight though it was just like the eye of the storm.
 
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