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Oglooger

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Would you ones say the 2010s are already over as a cultural decade? It seems like they died from Covid-19.

And when would you say they began? I say 2014 because that was when SJWism really took motion after Gamergate (Jace, we miss you!). But like many of you already said, the beginning was totally different, 2010-2012 were nothing like anything that came since 2014, but still different from the 2000s. It's true that the 2010s were a bit like two decades in one.

This is why the Corona virus crisis came so unexpected, I expected the mentality to last at least a few more years, because "the 2010s" as we know them began very late.
If Corona marks the end of the 2010's I honestly can't wait to see how the 2020's going to be.
I hope we end up burning away all sjw shit like how we did with disco in the 80's. maybe the right will truly rise as a counter culture only for it to degenerate into fundies 3.0 because we didn't learn out listen and we get zoomers banning shit for being not based and cringe.
 

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No, but it'd still be better than it is now.


What above said, 100%. I think something about the internet breaking into the proper mainstream has brought out the worst in society, along with allowing for constant surveillance, and a constant platform to preach. I think the complete lack of a youth culture for this recent generation of teenagers is telling of that- 2000s had emo and scene, 2010s (or more going past 2013 really) had nothing except what your Tumblr page looks like. Not to mention all the "normal" teens getting a hold of the worst porn imaginable, creating a generation of sex-starved football jocks becoming their own girlfriends because the girls IRL are Non-Binary lesbians and they can't ask them on a date because it would be sexist. Or the ability to create an entire new self, that to the average person is untraceable unless you're powerlevelling everywhere, that doesn't have to affect your IRL self in any way. At least I'll always have the original Xbox
I still have the PS2 and the PSX at my house. I didn't have the first models (nor do I have the first model of the Xbox one; my parents are frugal AF and they wait ages to buy a gaming system. Developed world problems though), but they're still at my house and working. I still play games on my PlayStations, and sometimes play on my DSI XL. Also, with the porn thing, some of the people stumble across porn accidentally around 11 years old. I came across porn around 14, because all these people on my bus were talking about porn, and I had no damn idea what this "porn" was. I came across a shock website around 12 though, and I was scared for life.
 

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I feel like culture basically stopped in the 2010s. 85% Of our games and movies are just remakes, you got popular youtubers who talk about old videogames, then you have books like Ready Player One which have weak writing but get praised for repeatedly referencing 80's stuff.

Having some nostalgia is fine and all, but looking back too much can really hurt your neck.
It feels more like people just don't want modern culture. Have you seen the shit that comes out recently? Almost everything that isn't a remake is garbage and most of the remakes are running around trying to tell everyone how "woke" they are now and failing horribly.
 

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It feels more like people just don't want modern culture. Have you seen the shit that comes out recently? Almost everything that isn't a remake is garbage and most of the remakes are running around trying to tell everyone how "woke" they are now and failing horribly.
So they're turning all the previously existing shit into wokeshit nobody wants, too.
 

Wonderful Id

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So they're turning all the previously existing shit into wokeshit nobody wants, too.
The new Charlie's Angles was now about "female empowerment" and Margot Robbie whined about how sexy Harley was in Suicide Squad, leading to the abomination that was in Birds of Prey. Then you have the changing Western video game landscape, such as the new Dark Queen in the Battletoads reboot for example

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It seems the whole point isn't just to rerelease old stuff (since they can't think of anything new), but also try and "correct" the errors of the past and make sure the people who enjoyed it know they are scum. So yeah, fuck them and their woke garbage.
 

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It feels more like people just don't want modern culture. Have you seen the shit that comes out recently? Almost everything that isn't a remake is garbage and most of the remakes are running around trying to tell everyone how "woke" they are now and failing horribly.
Thats what some people want though, afaik.

Earlier this year I saw Ford vs Ferrari (decent film btw), most of the women were office workers or house wives which was accurate for the time period in the film (50s-60s), because of that it got a handful of negative reviews.
 

Wonderful Id

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Thats what some people want though, afaik.

Earlier this year I saw Ford vs Ferrari (decent film btw), most of the women were office workers or house wives which was accurate for the time period in the film (50s-60s), because of that it got a handful of negative reviews.
Yeah, but it seems that the reviewers are out of step with that the actual public wants. Anything deemed "bad" by them has to be mentioned and often given its own paragraph about how horrible it is, even if it's only a personal gripe.
 

Dom Cruise

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I miss the videogame scene from the 2000s, that was back when games had more variety, less DLC if any, and were the near perfect blend of realism vs gameplay. It was also before videogames abused slot machine and dopamine mechanics to give you the illusion of progress.
I especially miss the culture surrounding videos games from back then, the fandom and the magazines.

It wasn't perfect, there was a lot of cynicism and embarrassing arguments over which console is best, gamers have always been a very argumentative bunch, but at least back in the day gamers argued over video games, not political bullshit like now and just in general there used to be a fun vibe surrounding video game culture,

But not anymore, gaming culture has been totally ruined, it's the kind of thing I can't even think about too much because it's so depressing.

Would you ones say the 2010s are already over as a cultural decade? It seems like they died from Covid-19.

And when would you say they began? I say 2014 because that was when SJWism really took motion after Gamergate (Jace, we miss you!). But like many of you already said, the beginning was totally different, 2010-2012 were nothing like anything that came since 2014, but still different from the 2000s. It's true that the 2010s were a bit like two decades in one.

This is why the Corona virus crisis came so unexpected, I expected the mentality to last at least a few more years, because "the 2010s" as we know them began very late.
Yes, the 2010s are history, Covid-19 has changed the game enough that they are already a bygone era, it's incredible how fast it happened.

As for when the 2010s started culturally, I would say they started in 2012, with Anita Sarkeesian's Tropes vs Women Kickstarter, the Trayvon Martin shooting, the Chik Fil A controversy and this articlehttps://msmagazine.com/2012/04/06/the-hunger-games-hollywood-and-fighting-fuck-toys/

But it was all pretty nascent, thing didn't go full blast until 2014, but the earliest rumblings were in 2012.

If Corona marks the end of the 2010's I honestly can't wait to see how the 2020's going to be.
I hope we end up burning away all sjw shit like how we did with disco in the 80's. maybe the right will truly rise as a counter culture only for it to degenerate into fundies 3.0 because we didn't learn out listen and we get zoomers banning shit for being not based and cringe.
The 2010s started on a hopeful note and ended in utter disaster, so I'm hoping the 2020s starting on a bleak note will ironically mean they will wind up great.
 

Dark Emporer Dood

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At least back in the day gamers argued over video games, not political bullshit like now and just in general there used to be a fun vibe surrounding video game culture,
Many fields are way too political these days, and more often than not people dont see the full picture. Recently I was linked to a twitter webcomic about a would be art thief and the comic tries to justify the thievery. There were debates on both sides, but the artists being bi meant that the defenses were in their favor.

Meanwhile here I am looking at the art, the same ol' KCGreen/jellybean crap, messy outlines that go over one another, colors that go outside of the outlines, paint bucket fails...yet people were dropping money on this in patreon. They're too caught up in the politics to notice the garbage art.
 
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Other than being younger and having a great decade with Video and PC games, the 2000s sucked. It hard to realized how acclimated we got with 2000s with the two wars, ongoing rise of terrorism and various economic dumps happening during the time. Still, shitty times make good reason to say home to play video games and enjoy movies I guess and the rise of DVDs and various improvements on video games helped.
 
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There's nostalgia, then there's hindsight. Other than being young and not understanding the world and having the illusion of independence and invincibility, that's youth for you, the 2000s weren't that good. It was a turning point to where we are now, you could say the 90s was a lazy period when not much happened, then when 9/11 happened it was a shock and a wake up call that nothing in the world is sacred. Then the recession happened, then jobs went overseas crushing the middle class workers, people got fooled by Madoff and young men and women got sent to die in a country they were misinformed about and social media was getting in full gear. I don't think previous decades deserved to be called innocent times, but rather we didn't know any better.
 

Dom Cruise

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Been thinking about the 2000s lately and now I'm sad.
I know what you mean.

What's especially mind blowing to me is how recent the late period of it feels, 2009 basically feels like yesterday to me, how did a decade+ go by so damn fast?

There's nostalgia, then there's hindsight. Other than being young and not understanding the world and having the illusion of independence and invincibility, that's youth for you, the 2000s weren't that good. It was a turning point to where we are now, you could say the 90s was a lazy period when not much happened, then when 9/11 happened it was a shock and a wake up call that nothing in the world is sacred. Then the recession happened, then jobs went overseas crushing the middle class workers, people got fooled by Madoff and young men and women got sent to die in a country they were misinformed about and social media was getting in full gear. I don't think previous decades deserved to be called innocent times, but rather we didn't know any better.
It was easier to compartmentalize the stuff that was going on in that decade though before the social media age really made things in your face, back then you could just turn off the news and pretty much ignore things.

Now almost every single website I go on references COVID-19 in some way, even sites that have nothing to do with it.

There's a movie that capture the vibe of what life was like in the 2000s with the current events really well, 2017's Ladybird, which is set in 2002 and 2003, there's two scenes where the main character is watching news about the Iraq war on TV before simply turning the TV off and going about her teenage life which has nothing to do with any of that, it's all just stuff happening in the background.

That's the way it was back then.
 

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I miss the humongous leaps in technology. Metal Gear Solid was released in 1998 and was pretty much unmatched in terms of cinematic presentation, yet the player models didn't even have eyes. MGS4 was released ten years later and had photorealistic faces and animations that still hold up.

2000 people had those brick Nokia phones with greenscreens, by the end of the decade a high end smartphone could do 95% of the basic tasks one needed a conventional computer for.

What do we have left to really look forward to in terms of tech toys? It's basically just Virtual Reality. Truly hope I'm wrong on this.
 

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I am fascinated by the early internet in the 2000s. This is especially true when I watch Summoning Salt videos about old speedrun forums where people submitted recordings by VHS tape or camcorder and shared their ideas in threads.

Allow me to soapbox a little since it seems appropriate for the thread. Personally I was really young then (late 2000s to early 2010s) and I spent huge amounts of time on silly things I found fascinating. I was really into physics flash games (similar to powder toy and Box2D) and I designed a bunch of mechanical devices like clocks and adding machines. (It sounds kinda autistic, but as I've gotten older, I've learned that having a passion is so much better than asking "why not just be a boring 'normal' person"). I was an active poster for a game forum that had a monthly community newsletter, various forum "clubs", competitions, off topic threads, etc. No one at school or at home was interested in those kind of things so it was the first community I got to be a part of. Nowadays the forum is long dead and the people, while they still exist on discord and steam, have gone on to do their own things. This site is my only "serious" continuation into forum culture.

Back then I had a crazy amount of passion to pursue my interests that I don't quite have now. I had a dream of having a Youtube channel even though I knew I didn't have anything anyone would want to watch. With a camcorder and MiniDV tapes I recorded a bunch of silly videos around the house and used Windows Movie Maker to put them together. The early 2010s were the heyday of Wii homebrew and I thought it was the greatest thing ever because I just so happened to own Lego Indiana Jones (great game) which was one of the games that could be used in an exploit called Indiana Pwns. Later on I wrote BASIC programs on my calculator and made a shitty mockup website in pure HTML. Everything I did was so constrained by my lack of knowledge and technology but I didn't care.

As I've gotten older my life is more consumed with anxiety. Things like what can I like doing for a living and should I go back to grad school and what can I do with my life and the like. But I have less passion now and I don't think it's a natural part of getting older or anything inherent in the time period. It is all in my head.
 
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