I hate to sound like a deranged boomer but yes, i miss the 2000s because because the world and the people felt less ... evil. Blaming it all on the widespread diffusion of social media would be reductive and simplistic, but it 's evident that this phenomenon must have struck a nerve somewhere.
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Current Year seems like a commie revolution.
Everything "has" to be about the revolution.
Even mainstream media is full of propaganda.
Leftie takeovers and all the wars and the virus and all the bullshit happening in these years were shit also the western degeneracy is spreading to the entire world. You can't make a family with new gen. I wouldn't trust a zoomer girl to bear my child (I'm a zoomer as well). I really wish to go back in time where things were simple cancel culture wasn't a thing
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It's the slow loss of confidence that stands out to me more than anything. I grew up looking to America, and the stories America told about itself, as something inspirational. There was a self-assured way Americans presented themselves - an optimistic outlook around what was possible, a willingness to work hard to achieve it, and an unapologetic sense of pride in their country and values. I grew up in the 80s and 90s, and there was no doubt in my mind that America was a better country than where I was living. I spent most of my childhood and teenage years thinking of ways I could move there. I'm now, finally, in a position to move there and it feels bittersweet. The America I fell in love with doesn't seem to exist anymore.
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I felt the entire world sour around the time Obama got elected. Before then, I distinctly remember pop culture being a very equal blind of races and Americanism being a central theme of all media. 2001-2008 was a golden era of Internet culture and general freedoms. I just remember after Obama got elected, half the country were evil racist birther rednecks and half the side was racially conscious pro-science smart people.
They don't want to spend time and money on those things. Everything has to be efficiently designed for maximum CONSOOM.
Well that and to be fair there's so many channels on YouTube both official, unofficial, fan and so on devoted to a movie's making of and behind the scenes, there's almost no reason to put all the special features they used to on dvds. People just watch them online anyway for free.
Since its June I mis when pride was called gay pride and celebrated one day a year by the gay community who simply marched with rainbow flags and maybe some signs admiting they where gay. And that was it. No drag queens no queer kids bs, nothing that made me go from tolerant libertarian to the raging homophobe I am today.
I can't confirm if this picture really is from 2005, it was one of the first images for NYC pride parade 2005 but look how everyone is fully dressed not dry humping each other in leather or fetish wear and are all consenting adults
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For an example of how things used to be better, all you need to do is watch some episodes of Reno 911. You had a relatively popular show on a network with people dropping Niggerbombs in the first episode, making fun of everyone from desert-dwelling rednecks to desert-dwelling faggots. Much of the humor would be considered offensive by today's standards, but at the time, nobody really seemed to mind. It was a fun show to kick back and watch, and that was all that mattered.
Not to derail this thread but one thing I find very suspect about 9/11 is all the WW2 movies that started coming out before, starting with Saving Private Ryan in 1998 and immediately after 9/11, even down to having a Pearl Harbor movie the same exact year the "second Pearl Harbor" happened.
But it wasn't just WW2 movies either, not too long after 9/11 (so it would have been in production and filmed before) there was the movie Black Hawk Down, which depicted modern warfare, there was also the Mel Gibson movie We Were Soldiers, which was about Vietnam, but had the same tone of something like Saving Private Ryan.
It's almost as if they were getting people nostalgic for WW2 and interested in war in general in order to gear us up for the War on Terror era, it's just one of those things that seems to be too big to be coincidental, why a huge spate of war movies around the time an event that lead us to into a war happened?
To make matters worse, just this year I watched the 2002 WW2 movie Hart's War, starring Colin Farrell and Bruce Willis, which was shockingly proto Woke, because unlike a typical WW2 movie this was about a POW camp and what the plot of the movie turned out to involve was racism against blacks, to make a long story short two black air force pilots wind up in the camp alongside all the other white soldiers, a racist white soldier murders one of them and frames the other for it (the character at one point says "I was a cop in St Louis, I know what they are") and a murder trial is held in the camp and Colin Farrell acts as the lawyer, the movie draws a parallel with Nazi Germany and America's treatment of blacks, at the end of the movie Bruce Willis' character sacrifices himself to destroy a nearby secret munitions factory, but also to save the life of the black pilot, it's hard not to look at this movie in light of today's world and not think that the message is whites sacrificing their lives for the good of blacks is as valiant and heroic as being a WW2 solider or something like that, it was a well made movie, but left me with a creepy feeling.
The one two punch of 9/11 and the Great Recession destroyed America's confidence in ourselves, we no longer felt like we had security or financial security anymore.
Plus the economic troubles caused a resurgence in Marxist ways of thinking.
9/11 hurt us but I think America could have been ok and got our groove back, the desire to stay strong and recover was there, the Great Recession though just knocked the wind out of our sails and it's never been the same since.
Things did indeed get fucking gay as soon as Obama showed up, but as I said before there was still a lot of cultural holdover from the 2000s for the first few years of his term, but right off the bat that was the climate was that "any criticism of Obama means you're racist" and that absolutely set the tone for what later became Woke.
The cult like mentality surrounding Obama is so creepy in hindsight.
Also no one is wearing a coronapanic muzzle.
It's unsettling how the New Normal has made that seem alien.
It's also suspect how conditioned people were to intensely dismiss criticism of the 9/11 narrative.
Whatever the truth is, the powers that shouldn't be clearly used 9/11, the recession, Obama, woke, and then the coof to (further) break down society so they could rebuild it in the New
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What's weird is just how happy and amicable it all seems: no hatred towards their cis-het-white oppressors, no "folx", no "Latinx", no "womxn", no furries, no drag queen abominations, no creeps in bondage gear -- just happy, ordinary people preaching love and tolerance. It's sad to think how a movement originally founded on love devolved into a movement based on hate. It's no longer "We're here, we're queer, get used to it!" but instead "Dear racist straight, white, cis scum colonizers: your time will come."
"The slippery slope is a fallacy." - liberals who went woke 10 years later
(It also reminds me of a cult that resorts to intimidation when "love bombing" doesn't work.)
Well on a lighter note, you-know-what really started to die off as the decade began? Practical effects in movies. Ever since t2 in 91 and Jurassic Park in 93 cgi kept being used more and more but at least through the 90s and into the early 2000s you still had plenty of animatronics and makeup effects working with cgi, not being replaced by it.
Look at movies that got released in say 2001 up to around 2005. Jurassic Park 3 still had plenty of puppets including the largest animatronic ever with the spinosuarus, while mummy returns lives on in infamy for the cgi rock scorpion king it still used some decent makeup and stunt work. Compared to the Tom Cruise mummy reboot in 2015.
It's hard to say exacty where cgi completely took over to where we see it in every major Hollywood production now to the point where it's dull and boring, some would say it started with the later two star wars prequels, others say it was Micheal bay's first transformers movie. Personally I think it started after 2d animation in movies finally died in 2004-2005, once that was replaced by 3d cgi, practical special effects in live action movies was next.
Look at movies that got released in say 2001 up to around 2005. Jurassic Park 3 still had plenty of puppets including the largest animatronic ever with the spinosuarus, while mummy returns lives on in infamy for the cgi rock scorpion king it still used some decent makeup and stunt work. Compared to the Tom Cruise mummy reboot in 2015.
It's hard to say exacty where cgi completely took over to where we see it in every major Hollywood production now to the point where it's dull and boring, some would say it started with the later two star wars prequels, others say it was Micheal bay's first transformers movie. Personally I think it started after 2d animation in movies finally died in 2004-2005, once that was replaced by 3d cgi, practical special effects in live action movies was next.
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I hated my life in the 2000s, and I hate my life now.
Can you imagine what would happen to the entertainment industry if CGI was lost somehow? If traditional animation and practical special effects had to be re-learned?
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That's fair, and it all seems really obvious in hindsight. I think those incidents hurt the world on a larger scale too - America's loss of confidence in it's own identity, caused a global loss of confidence that we lived in a world that makes any sense at all.
The great recession is what killed the, "You too can own a little house with a white-picket fence" narrative. There was no recovering after that. The rate of home ownership is still down around 5% since 2008, and that 5% that doesn't own a home skewers younger. The gap in home ownership between older and younger generations has increased since 2008 with home ownership rates among those over 65 increasing by 1-2%. A drop of a few percentage points doesn't sound like a lot, but in a country with 330,000,000 people, you're talking about 16.5 million people who would have owned a house in 2004 who don't in 2020. That's 16.5 million more people who do not know the stability of owning the roof they live under.
Obviously we have many more creature comforts, and it is preferable to be alive now vs the middle ages. However, if you swap in landlords for feudal lords and paying taxes for paying tithes to the church, you could make a very good argument that living in a city with no prospects of ever owning a house has evolved into a neo-feudalism. Many people's rent eats up well over half of their take home income, and taxes paid to government are greater than the 10% tithe paid to feudal churches. You have to work full-time because you need money to pay your landlord so you don't end up in the street, then government skims off the top before you pay your landlord. So in essence, the higher rent goes and the more income you need to pay rent, the more you need to work, the more government collects. The only escape is to eventually own a paid off house, or to live in an RV or van or something. They don't want you to have that, because it's not in their best interest.
Obviously we have many more creature comforts, and it is preferable to be alive now vs the middle ages. However, if you swap in landlords for feudal lords and paying taxes for paying tithes to the church, you could make a very good argument that living in a city with no prospects of ever owning a house has evolved into a neo-feudalism. Many people's rent eats up well over half of their take home income, and taxes paid to government are greater than the 10% tithe paid to feudal churches. You have to work full-time because you need money to pay your landlord so you don't end up in the street, then government skims off the top before you pay your landlord. So in essence, the higher rent goes and the more income you need to pay rent, the more you need to work, the more government collects. The only escape is to eventually own a paid off house, or to live in an RV or van or something. They don't want you to have that, because it's not in their best interest.
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And the more the government collects in property taxes, the more landlords jack up the rent, so you're paying tax on your own income and paying the landlord's too.
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One thing I ironically miss is Twilight. The hate train on that was the last real moment when everyone could just laugh at something being retarded.
As said, it seems like after the '00s, there was a year of rapture and 2012 doomering as well as Occupy, then a year of rising woke, then a year of Orange Man Bad, and then BAM! Shit hitting the fan of 2020...
(at least this way the '00s may not seem too long ago)
(at least this way the '00s may not seem too long ago)
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