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ArnoldPalmer

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The only thing I miss about the 2000s is being younger than I am now.

Okay, I lied. I miss pre-social-media internet, I miss 4chan when it was actually fun, and I miss when internet forums were more popular.
Other than that? Technology is better, politics are more fun, and we live in clown world. Who would want to pass that up?
 

Dom Cruise

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I'm optimistic for the 2020s. I don't know why.

The 90s definitely had it good. Technology was getting better and no endless foreign wars.
One of my favorite vids on youtube
I'm optimistic for the 2020s too.

And I love that video as well.

The only thing I miss about the 2000s is being younger than I am now.

Okay, I lied. I miss pre-social-media internet, I miss 4chan when it was actually fun, and I miss when internet forums were more popular.
Other than that? Technology is better, politics are more fun, and we live in clown world. Who would want to pass that up?
I really miss old school 4chan as well, there's something about the site that is just kind of boring these days (I'm sure it has far less users than it used to)
 
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I personally have a gripe with how animations were once like this... though a bit more primitive and unprofessional...

And now they're all like this

At one point in time internet sex was only accepted on Newgrounds and dedicated porn sites; pastel/'vaporwavey' themes were left on some obscure hipster forum. I miss when the animations were slightly scratchy but still charismatic. Now it's all over Instagram and YouTube.
This is an interesting take. I still have a soft spot for sites likes deviantArt and Newgrounds. Furry stuff has always had its NSFW side tho.
 

Odets

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Nope. Couple elements but not the whole thing. I hated the music, The list of new movies I liked got smaller every year and holly fuck those reality shows on TV... fuvk that. Don't even miss my younger self, since years were complicated. Two things I do miss are overall edginess and the way video games used to be.

The shocking, daring, sexy, gross edgy shit I miss the most. I don't blame all of it on PC culture even. It plays a part, but it goes deeper than that. There's a lot more emphasis on "relevant social commentary" (even before Trump derangement) and also "deep themes", and everything that isn't that has to be called a guilty pleasure. Because you have to force yourself to look classy or make the movie classy somehow. And don't tell me that the new generation is more classy. There's no way in hell teens and young people stopped caring about sex, fun and appearing more adult and cool. This new "classiness" is so fake because there's not enough dirt to feel special over being clean.

And video games... Less open world in AAA which meant more focus and no bloatedness, also there was more AA junk-games that were less than AAA but bigger than indies that were uneven but had a cool idea.

So yeah edgy shit and videogames. The rest can fuck off. Hope 20s will bring back some shock content.
 

Syaoran Li

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Looking back on it, I think the 2000's was a great time for console gaming.

Or more specifically, the Sixth Generation of Consoles with the PS2's library standing out in particular.

The Fifth Generation of Consoles (PS1, N64, etc.) was where video games started to truly grow up as a hobby with the rise of story-driven games and darker titles intended for a more mature audience such as Resident Evil and Metal Gear Solid.

But I think the Sixth Generation was where video gaming truly took off to new heights and it was in that perfect middle ground between the simplicity of previous generations and the current trends of the Seventh and Eighth Generations

Like, online multiplayer started to become a thing for consoles but it wasn't everywhere nor did you need an internet connection just to get a console game to work. No updates or DLC's either.

But you also had new genres emerge as well.

Open-world sandbox games in particular came of age in the wake of Grand Theft Auto III and the myriad clones that followed in its wake.

While there were precedents in the open world genre like Body Harvest, Daggerfall, or the original Legend of Zelda, GTA III was where it truly codified itself into an actual genre and not just a gameplay feature of certain specific titles.

A lot of people will cite 1998 as the "Greatest Year of Video Games" and it was an awesome year that gave us Resident Evil 2, Ocarina of Time, Metal Gear Solid, and more.

But I think 2001 is tied with 1998 in terms of the wide array of groundbreaking releases.

2001 gave us Grand Theft Auto III, Metal Gear Solid 2, Devil May Cry, Halo, Final Fantasy X, and more.

Okay, I'll see myself to the Games sub-forum now...

But in all seriousness, I am cautiously optimistic about the 2020's, especially once the 2020 Election cycle is over.
 
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I'd take any era prior to clown world tbh but the 2000s were great,

Some of the best video games came out during that era as well as the 90's games were still relevant. Zoomers were too young to shit up media culture talk with their bad opinions and shitty hot takes.
Some of the best anime were coming out and being subbed and piracy networks were exploding.
Also the 90's were over so all the shit that gets pumped out during a decade was mostly filtered out and we had just the good stuff left.

Also I still had my innocence at the time and I miss that the most.
 
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BR55

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Looking back on it, I think the 2000's was a great time for console gaming.

Or more specifically, the Sixth Generation of Consoles with the PS2's library standing out in particular.

The Fifth Generation of Consoles (PS1, N64, etc.) was where video games started to truly grow up as a hobby with the rise of story-driven games and darker titles intended for a more mature audience such as Resident Evil and Metal Gear Solid.

But I think the Sixth Generation was where video gaming truly took off to new heights and it was in that perfect middle ground between the simplicity of previous generations and the current trends of the Seventh and Eighth Generations

Like, online multiplayer started to become a thing for consoles but it wasn't everywhere nor did you need an internet connection just to get a console game to work. No updates or DLC's either.

But you also had new genres emerge as well.

Open-world sandbox games in particular came of age in the wake of Grand Theft Auto III and the myriad clones that followed in its wake.

While there were precedents in the open world genre like Body Harvest, Daggerfall, or the original Legend of Zelda, GTA III was where it truly codified itself into an actual genre and not just a gameplay feature of certain specific titles.

A lot of people will cite 1998 as the "Greatest Year of Video Games" and it was an awesome year that gave us Resident Evil 2, Ocarina of Time, Metal Gear Solid, and more.

But I think 2001 is tied with 1998 in terms of the wide array of groundbreaking releases.

2001 gave us Grand Theft Auto III, Metal Gear Solid 2, Devil May Cry, Halo, Final Fantasy X, and more.

Okay, I'll see myself to the Games sub-forum now...

But in all seriousness, I am cautiously optimistic about the 2020's, especially once the 2020 Election cycle is over.
I think what I miss the most about 2000's video games is the feeling of things actually improving and getting bigger and better.
The sixth and seventh gen were really good with that.
The jump from Goldeneye to Halo was huge.
The jump from Halo 2 to Halo 3 was equally huge.
Half Life 2 blew us away with unheard of physics and facial animations.
Mass Effect, Total War Medieval 2 and Rome, Modern Warfare the list goes on.
The scale and scope of gaming just went up and up.
The eighth gen just feels so fucking stagnant and samey in comparison.
We're a year from the ninth gen and I have not once gotten that "Wow! This blows what came before out of the water.".
Instead all we've gotten are tiny incremental improvements.
Honestly I think the 2010's will be remembered culturally for stagnation and endless sequels, cinematic universes and reboots.
And as much as I've enjoyed stuff like the MCU or GOT, book master race though, I wouldn't be sad if Nerd Culture just fucked off and died in the 2020's.
So thats my long winded way of saying yes I do miss the 2000's.
 
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I think what I miss the most about 2000's video games is the feeling of things actually improving and getting bigger and better.
The sixth and seventh gen were really good with that.
The jump from Goldeneye to Halo was huge.
The jump from Halo 2 to Halo 3 was equally huge.
Half Life 2 blew us away with unheard of physics and facial animations.
Mass Effect, Total War Medieval 2 and Rome, Modern Warfare the list goes on.
The scale and scope of gaming just went up and up.
The eighth gen just feels so fucking stagnant and samey in comparison.
Were a year from the ninth gen and I have not once gotten that "Wow! This blows what came before out of the water.".
Instead all we've gotten are tiny incremental improvements.
Honestly I think the 2010's will culturally remembered for stagnation and endless sequels, cinematic universes and reboots.
And as much as I've enjoyed stuff like the MCU or GOT, book master race though, I wouldn't be sad if Nerd Culture just fucked off and died in the 2020's.
So thats my long winded way of saying yes I do miss the 2000's.
Very well said. Just try to think of a game from the eighth generation that can't be described as "like (older game) but-". The seventh gen even had plenty - Dead Rising and Bully immediately spring to mind. Even the indie scene these days is a crock of shit. At the beginning of the decade, indie games became a thing and had a promising outlook, with the likes of Super Meat Boy, Spelunky, and Minecraft (it counted) leading the path. But now? It's just an endless torrent of pretentious artsy games for game jurnos to soil themselves over, and anything of quality will just kind of get lost in the shuffle. Even practically giving your game away by way of bundles still isn't enough because of how many games have been handed out in those. Fifty games for a buck from Fanatical? Sign me the fuck up, my Steam account's already an overflowing toilet, just keep pouring complete garbage in there until I find a diamond in the rough so I can leave a nice review and make the developer happy as a clam that someone somewhere enjoyed their work.
 
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I"m nostalgic for the pre-2012 days. You could escape from politics. You didn't have to worry as much about political correctness and the media wasn't too pozzed up. Back then I wasn't deemed a member of a "privileged" group. I could be a conservative or a pre-SJW progressive. I could be an individual.

But that was all just an illusion. As "diversity" has started reaching critical mass we now can start to see that multi-ethnic countries inevitably lead to Balkanization. After the "American" Empire decisively loses its "world policeman" status and our economy takes a major hit we'll see these tribes split off and form new nation-states. It'll happen by 2033 give or take a few years (If not 2033 then sooner).

People in the coming decades will be looking back to the 2000's with even deeper nostalgia than we do today. You ever see a movie made before 9/11 with the World Trade Center in the background and feel strange? People in the near future will look at 2000's movies displaying a united America and feel strange. "Look at how united America was. Los Angeles used to be a part of the United States back then!"
 

Dom Cruise

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I"m nostalgic for the pre-2012 days. You could escape from politics. You didn't have to worry as much about political correctness and the media wasn't too pozzed up. Back then I wasn't deemed a member of a "privileged" group. I could be a conservative or a pre-SJW progressive. I could be an individual.

But that was all just an illusion. As "diversity" has started reaching critical mass we now can start to see that multi-ethnic countries inevitably lead to Balkanization. After the "American" Empire decisively loses its "world policeman" status and our economy takes a major hit we'll see these tribes split off and form new nation-states. It'll happen by 2033 give or take a few years (If not 2033 then sooner).

People in the coming decades will be looking back to the 2000's with even deeper nostalgia than we do today. You ever see a movie made before 9/11 with the World Trade Center in the background and feel strange? People in the near future will look at 2000's movies displaying a united America and feel strange. "Look at how united America was. Los Angeles used to be a part of the United States back then!"
That is really what I miss most, the fact that you used to be free to be an individual.

I fucking hate the fact that modern America has boiled down to just one big king of the hill match between all the different demographics, just fucking hate it.

I hate that people are just so fucking obsessed with their group identities, they literally worship it like it's their God, I saw in National Geographic not too long ago this story about Hispanics in America and they had this group photo of these Hispanic college students on their graduation day and there was this purple haired Hispanic girl with a look of pure Religious rapture on her face, like looking up with her eyes closed and a smile on her face, that girl just fucking loved being Hispanic so much.

There is of course great power in that sense of tribalism and giving up your individual identity to feel a part of some greater whole, the trouble is in the 21st century that tribalism is a flat out dangerous and regressive thing that will eat away at modernity like acid.

Because I'm sure Klansmen get that same euphoria when they stand around a burning cross and the more society props up that sense of joy women and "people of color" get from shared identity the harder it's going to be for them to convince white men that they shouldn't do the same.
 
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The 90s were my personal favorite, but that just might be because those were my teenage years when I had no real responsibilities and most of my favorite music and movies came out. I went to a lot of shows back then. Played shitty guitar. Feels like someone else's life now.

Everyone else here has it right in that late 90s and early 2000s internet, forum "culture" and online gaming was really something special. We were seeing the birth of something really new and exciting and people were just running in all kinds of weird directions with it. Some friends and I played Ultima Online together around our college years, and as clunky and shitty-looking as it is by today's standards, that game was so far beyond anything we'd seen at that point that it just blew our minds. And it was fun. A lot of MMOs that came later like Everquest and World of Warcraft tried to recapture the magic, and some did for a time, but it wasn't the same. I still have a lot of great memories of that game despite not touching it for close to a couple decades, though apparently there's a small core of people still playing. Most of the rest of us drifted away to jobs, lives and families.

The forums in particular are odd to look back on. This was before social media, and most people didn't think too much of oversharing about their lives on them because it all seemed so innocent and nobody had really had their life ruined by the internet yet. The internet in general seemed like a much smaller place then. I posted regularly on some gaming forums and at least one smaller local music-related one around the early 2000s, and people would post updates and details on their lives, pictures of themselves and their friends, all publicly accessible for anyone to see. Nobody would do that shit now, for good reason. There was a huge boom of blogs around this time, and a lot of them were shit, but some were really interesting and unique because your average Joe Dumbass didn't know how the internet worked and didn't care to learn. Seeing Maddox's downfall on this forum is funny and deserved, but it's also sad because I remember back when he was fucking hilarious. Webs 1.0 and 2.0 were gold. Nobody gave a shit about politics.

Post 9/11 everything took a nosedive. Economically, culturally, artistically, you name it. Things were extremely safe and boring for a long time until they suddenly weren't. The 2000s were full of ups and downs for me personally. Couple shitty relationships, some bad decisions, fell into a decent career. The TV got a lot better, the music got a lot worse.

When I look back on the 2010s I mostly just see things getting... stupider. More corporate, more over produced, bigger, louder, dumber, glossier, flashier. Not that we haven't had that in every decade, but it seems especially bad now. People are more creative and have more platforms to showcase their creativity, but you also get idiots posting every detail of their shitty lives and turning into lolcows overnight. Everything is so much faster, louder and more disposable.
 

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I miss the 2000's for the things that were around such as some sites that were in their prime like Newgrounds though that's more of whatever novelty they had as well as whatever good shit I gone through in my younger years as a kid or a teen such as enjoying the vidya of the era and what the internet the 2000s had to offer such as browsing random Wikipedia pages. I'd exclude bad things like slow internet speeds and being a dumbfuck back then but more importantly, the shit I miss from the 2000's were family members that didn't pass away or ended up causing some sort of split for whatever reasons.

Beyond that though, the 2000's were more or less something that would be looked at with rose tinted glasses the older we all get. Then again, this decade would no doubt make us look at the previous one back in a better light since it's like what @MarvinTheParanoidAndroid said: this decade gave us all the political groups and spergings related to it such as Trump, Alt-Right, Antifa, and other dumb shit such as bronies and horrifying shit like seeing how the furries manage to get a group of sick-fuck zoophile sadists.

If it were somehow possible, I wouldn't mind going back to those earlier years, maybe even to the 90's though only in just using the internet as it was back then and seeing whatever shit there were back then be it some lolcow from the 2000's or seeing some cringe from a group such as the furries or weebs in all its autistic glory of the 90's but we can only go forward. One can only hope the 2020's doesn't end up as bad but who knows, the next decade could make us all wish for when the only shit we had to deal with was bronies, GamerGate, Antifa and the Alt-Right, and whatever the 2010's had.
 
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