Does Barb hate Chris? -

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Vincent

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Okay, it's pretty much well-established that Borb were shitty parents and played a role in imperially fucking up Chris, but something that has been bugging me for a while is this. Does Barbara hate Chris?

First, let me preface this with saying that Borb were shitty parents, and there's something about Bob in particular that I need to get out of the way, and help set the scene.

Bob was a shitty parent, but unlike Barb, he actually tried to be a parent up to a point, He failed miserably due to age and being way behind the times when it came to knowledge of special ed, the internet, and mental health. While Bob wasn't a saint by any means, and he could've a done better job raising Chris than he did, I give him credit for trying. I do know for a fact that Bob tried to make Chris function by enrolling him in community college and making him get a job at Wendy's. After both fizzled out, Bob put Chris on the tugboat, and from my understanding, he did so because he thought Chris was a lost cause and gave up on him.

But what about Barb? It's very well apparent that Barb is a bit of a possessive bitch (I'm not trying to A-Log, but I can't think of any words to describe her) Her hoarding ruined the house and when Bob tried to fix it, she threw a fit. According to the CWCki, by the time Chris was a child, Bob slept in a different room than Barb, and I think that if Chris hadn't come along, they would have divorced.

According to a lot of people's theories, Barb sees Chris as a glorified pet and part of the hoard. Given the fact that she hardly ever lets him leave the house, except to get stuff for her, and that the Snorlacks video at McDonald's implies she has some contempt for Chris, or at least deep resentment, I'm beginning to think that Barb hates Chris and sees him as a mere animal to be leashed, especially after the 10/28/2011 incident (which was mostly her fault). Chris is very much depressed and Barb keeps him locked up in the house all day. It's sad really, and nobody should be treated like that. Not even Chris.

In all honesty, I feel bad for Chris. One parent gave up on him, and the other makes him miserable and may very well hate him.


Do you guys think Barb hates Chris since the 10/28 incident?
 

Marvin

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No, Barb doesn't hate Chris. And she was more responsible for the Oct 28 situation than he was.
 

Vincent

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Marvin said:
No, Barb doesn't hate Chris. And she was more responsible for the Oct 28 situation than he was.


Okay, I was just posting some conjecture. But you know the situation better than I do, so I'll take your word for it.

And yes, Barb was more responsible for 10/28 than anyone else, which would have made any hatred she had ironic.
 

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Barb is just a sick old lady with a few screws loose. For all her faults she's never been physically or verbally abusive, as far as we know.
 

Anchuent Christory

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Shuddup, ahm eatin'!

The thing is, virtually everything we know about Barb is second hand information from Chris and even Cole Smithy, Neither of which are reliable sources of information.

It's clear that she's a pretty shitty person, but it's a bit much to suggest that she hates her son. Apart from the supposed instances of her neglecting Chris at a young age, there's never been any evidence of her actually being abusive towards Chris.
If anything, she's damaged her son by doing the exact opposite by coddling him and allowing him to exist in his fantasy world of no responsibility and zero consequence.
 

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I think she enjoys having a constant child to "care" for but she also hates the fact she has a CONSTANT child to care for.

She loves him and hates him. Her love is just as damaging as any contempt she has for him though
 

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BatmanVSTonyDanza said:
I think she enjoys having a constant child to "care" for but she also hates the fact she has a CONSTANT child to care for.

She loves him and hates him. Her love is just as damaging as any contempt she has for him though
Nah, she has a child to care of her. She doesn't hate Chris.
 

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I don't think she HATES Chris, but I think there's a lot of resentment there. If nothing else, due to DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS, Tomgirl, and continuing to make a fool of himself in public and on the internet.
 

BigAltheGreat921

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Marvin said:
No, Barb doesn't hate Chris. And she was more responsible for the Oct 28 situation than he was.
Yeah, if Barb wasn't there the whole incident probably wouldn't have happened and she and Chris wouldn't be in the legal mess they're in now.
 

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Da Pickle Monsta said:
I don't think she HATES Chris, but I think there's a lot of resentment there. If nothing else, due to DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS, Tomgirl, and continuing to make a fool of himself in public and on the internet.
Eh, not really. Resentment suggests that she harbors some sort of long-term feelings that taking care of Chris isn't worth it. Each of the things you're mentioning here are things that she was angry about for a short period of time or were relatively small arguments.

She was most angry about the dirty crapped briefs when Chris put them, shit and all, into the washing machine, or similar shit-related events.

Tomgirl was something they argued over, but didn't last long. And it's funny, Chris didn't back down from his tomgirl shit and Barb didn't tell him it was OK, but the problem between them mostly went away because Chris is too lazy to go full tomgirl in public anymore.

And she has a very different impression of what Chris does in public and on the internet than we do. Even when she does have decent information on the event, her impression of who's at fault is just as nuts as Chris (like when she fought the cops at the Oct 28 event, for example).
 

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Marvin said:
Da Pickle Monsta said:
I don't think she HATES Chris, but I think there's a lot of resentment there. If nothing else, due to DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS, Tomgirl, and continuing to make a fool of himself in public and on the internet.
Eh, not really. Resentment suggests that she harbors some sort of long-term feelings that taking care of Chris isn't worth it. Each of the things you're mentioning here are things that she was angry about for a short period of time or were relatively small arguments.

She was most angry about the dirty crapped briefs when Chris put them, shit and all, into the washing machine, or similar shit-related events.

Tomgirl was something they argued over, but didn't last long. And it's funny, Chris didn't back down from his tomgirl shit and Barb didn't tell him it was OK, but the problem between them mostly went away because Chris is too lazy to go full tomgirl in public anymore.

And she has a very different impression of what Chris does in public and on the internet than we do. Even when she does have decent information on the event, her impression of who's at fault is just as nuts as Chris (like when she fought the cops at the Oct 28 event, for example).

Yeah, that's a good point. I made the mistake of believing that Barb was rational there.
 

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Da Pickle Monsta said:
Yeah, that's a good point. I made the mistake of believing that Barb was rational there.
Heh, I mean, right now to Barb, Chris is a combination of a pet and a servant. She'll frequently talk to him in a weird singsongy voice like she was talking to a five year old. Except, y'know, he's thirty.

"CHRISSSCHUNNN, GO GET MOMMA A TACO, I LUV YEWW", shit like that. (not an actual quote, but I wouldn't be surprised if she did say this once)

I'm sure caring for an autistic child, especially one like Chris, would get her down sometimes, but she's crazy and has someone to cuddle with, so I think that, for her, the benefits outweigh the risks.
 

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I would love to see the interactions between Chris and Barb. If "You're Always Pretty" is any indication, she tolerates him more than she loves him...at least in public anyway. I don't know though. They're both pretty looney tunes at this point.
 

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She could never hate him, he's her most prized possession. He's like a rookie Mickey Mantle card.
 

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pickleniggo said:
I would love to see the interactions between Chris and Barb. If "You're Always Pretty" is any indication, she tolerates him more than she loves him...at least in public anyway. I don't know though. They're both pretty looney tunes at this point.

I'd say she's a step above tolerating Chris, since even toleration has its limits after awhile. "You're always pretty" must have been as obvious a cop-out to her as it was to us, so she just brushed it off. Heck, maybe she was even trying to joke in her own way??
 

calicojack

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I really think Barb just used Chris to win the Mother of the Year award all for herself. Selfish bitch.
 

Marvin

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pickleniggo said:
I would love to see the interactions between Chris and Barb. If "You're Always Pretty" is any indication, she tolerates him more than she loves him...at least in public anyway. I don't know though. They're both pretty looney tunes at this point.
Eh, nah. I think she's acting withdrawn in that video because she's eating. She frequently dotes on him pretty creepily too.
 

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Marvin said:
pickleniggo said:
I would love to see the interactions between Chris and Barb. If "You're Always Pretty" is any indication, she tolerates him more than she loves him...at least in public anyway. I don't know though. They're both pretty looney tunes at this point.
Eh, nah. I think she's acting withdrawn in that video because she's eating. She frequently dotes on him pretty creepily too.

So Barb has the temperament of a dog then. :lol:
 
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