Does Chris have post-traumatic embitterment disorder? -

[darkhorse816]

There's this proposed disorder, that hasn't been put in the DSM or anything, that I found on wikipedia called Post-Traumatic Embitterment Disorder.

Basically, something traumatic happened in someone's past, but instead of having anxiety or stress, they become bitter, and don't seek help, and believe that they were right and the world was against them.

Or it could be another phrase for "Being a Poor Sport" or the ever-common "Sore Loser Disorder."

Here's the wikipedia article. Like I said, it's not a real disorder, and only proposed by a German guy:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-traumatic_embitterment_disorder

I found out about it through a cracked.com article describing how Molly Ringwald's character's relationship with Judd Nelson's character in the Breakfast Club would ultimately implode on itself.

The specific traumatic event for Chris would be him being banned from The Game Place, the only place he was able to socialize and have some sense of belonging, in addition to losing out on what he believed was love/china.

The one thing that Chris constantly moans about is The Game Place. His actions, including the unbanning attempts (both the apologies and the trespassing) and finally, the October 28th Incident. Even after the trial, heck, even during the trial, Chris believed that he was in the right, and shows nothing but bitterness for the situation. And it was this situation that caused Chris to seclude himself more and more, and become more and more paranoid.

Chris believes Michael was conspiring against him, and the whole world discriminates against him, which explains his status now: paranoid, believing everyone is a troll, and constantly believing everything is an attack against him, and that he is being discriminated against for being (high-functioning autistic/loveshy/tomgirl/whatever) here.

What are your thoughts?

 

[Happy Nappa]

The Game Place banning didn't help his attitude but I'd say the bigger factors are (A) being raised by parents who spun conspiracy theories for all their misfortunes rather than taking responsibility for bad decisions and (B) years of continuous trolling combined with exhaustive online documentation of that trolling. Paranoia was bred into him and his inability to leave the internet alone did the rest.

 

[QI 541]

The behavior described in the article sounds exactly like Chris. Although I would say his reason for being bitter is due to several years of dealing with reality rather than a single traumatic experience.

 

[Marvin]

Eh, this sounds kinda iffy to me.

He also had problems with Mary Lee Walsh and Bob and Barb had their problems with people. I can't see this getting made into a legitimate disorder that you can get diagnosed with. Really, it's just people being cranky about losing, which isn't that uncommon.

 

[bradsternum]

Sounds like a bullshit disorder. Another excuse for people being whiny fucks.

 

[BigAltheGreat921]

I never heard of this disorder until now, but its "diagnostic" criteria do match Chris' feelings about the Game Place pretty well. Who knows, maybe it'll find it's way to the DSM eventually.

 

[mendoza]

Sounds like a bullshit disorder. Another excuse for people being whiny fucks.

Chris is sure Aspergers is a bullshit disorder.

Wikipedia isn't exactly a reliable source, but the line "PTED is a psychological adjustment-reactive disorder more severe than just being embittered in colloquial language. It can be qualitatively measured with high scientific reliability and repeatability", if true, makes it worth studying.

Either way, I'd rather wait for the psychiatrists to figure it out.

I never heard of this disorder until now, but its "diagnostic" criteria do match Chris' feelings about the Game Place pretty well. Who knows, maybe it'll find it's way to the DSM eventually.

Indeed. It would shed some light on a lot of other lolcows too.

 

[darkhorse816]

Sounds like a bullshit disorder. Another excuse for people being whiny fucks.

I think it's known as "Sore Loser Disorder." Who knows, maybe the guy who came up with it was banned from Das Game Place in Germany.

 

[BillRiley]

Sounds like a bullshit disorder. Another excuse for pharmaceutical companies to sell pills to people being whiny fucks.

Fix'd.

 

[Bob's Fries]

Sounds like a bullshit disorder. Another excuse for pharmaceutical companies to sell pills to people being whiny fucks.

Fix'd.

I'm new to this stuff, but... What does the term "Fix'd" mean in this context?

 

[PacSol]

Sounds like a bullshit disorder. Another excuse for pharmaceutical companies to sell pills to people being whiny fucks.

Fix'd.

I'm new to this stuff, but... What does the term "Fix'd" mean in this context?

It means that you've modified someone's quote to be more accurate, in your opinion. It's standard practice to either bold the edited portion or include the original crossed out, though.

 

[Anchuent Christory]

One of the things i find most irritating about the world right now is this need to characterize peoples negative traits as "disorders" Some people are just cunts, pure and simple.

Chris does have Autism, and he did have a shit upbringing....fair enough! But many of his greatest fuck ups have been him and him alone, he's just too stupid and egotistical to realize, let alone admit when he's in the wrong.

 

[TL 611]

Some people are just cunts, pure and simple.

Truer words were ne'er spoken.

 

[Alec Benson Leary]

Sounds like a bullshit disorder. Another excuse for people being whiny fucks.

I think it's known as "Sore Loser Disorder." Who knows, maybe the guy who came up with it was banned from Das Game Place in Germany.

There was this one scientist guy, couldn't get a date, I forget his name... came up with something called "love shyness" and called it a legitimate condition. A whole legion of spergs jumped on it, seeing it as an easy out from hard work and self-application by shifting the blame onto others, so they could wine about persecution and entitlement. But it turns out that wasn't a legitimate condition at all.

And this doesn't sound like one either. The common denominator between the two? They both basically say that "I don't want to try" is a disability.

Bitterness is not a form of trauma. Bitterness is just a shitty worldview. If you don't want to try to help yourself, then you have no right to blame others for not wanting to do the work for you, period.

 

[Marvin]

Sounds like a bullshit disorder. Another excuse for people being whiny fucks.

I think it's known as "Sore Loser Disorder." Who knows, maybe the guy who came up with it was banned from Das Game Place in Germany.

There was this one scientist guy, couldn't get a date, I forget his name... came up with something called "love shyness" and called it a legitimate condition. A whole legion of spergs jumped on it, seeing it as an easy out from hard work and self-application by shifting the blame onto others, so they could wine about persecution and entitlement. But it turns out that wasn't a legitimate condition at all.

http://canine.nfshost.com/loveshy.html (A PVCC member wrote this originally and I rehosted it when their original host went down. Though I failed to get most of the image links, sorry. But yeah, great guide on loveshys.)

 

[Tubular Monkey]

Chris is just a prick with entitlement hardwired into his malfunctioning brain.

 

[mendoza]

Comparing it to Gilmartin? Really? At least I didn't see anything about Kirlian auras or astrological signs in the wiki article for this one.

I'm not saying it should be labeled as an actual disorder, though I think the research has some merit. From what I've seen of the loveshies, it could explain where they've gone wrong too. Looks like they all got rejected like everyone does from time to time, some maybe a little worse or more often than most for whatever reason, only instead of learning from it and trying something different, they became bitterly resentful and closed their minds to it like someone else we know.

The article I read isn't exactly sympathetic to people who develop post traumatic bitterness, but is encouraging in that it is apparently treatable. After all, as long as someone is bitter and blames the world for their issues (psychiatric label or not), they're not really ever going to get over it or improve in anyway. Not when they can blame the world instead of themselves. Now that may make for some great lolcows for us, but eventually even the lulz get old while they are remain just as miserable. And aren't doing anyone else any favors either.

I wonder what would happen if some therapist tried the "wisdom therapy" on OPL.

Edit: To be honest, it also sounds like a subtype of Narcisstic Personality Disorder - the Fanatic type (or Martyr complex):

An individual whose self-esteem was severely arrested during childhood, who usually displays major paranoid tendencies, and who holds on to an illusion of omnipotence. These people are fighting delusions of insignificance and lost value, and trying to re-establish their self-esteem through grandiose fantasies and self-reinforcement. When unable to gain recognition or support from others, they take on the role of a heroic or worshipped person with a grandiose mission.

 

[Alec Benson Leary]

Comparing it to Gilmartin? Really? At least I didn't see anything about Kirlian auras or astrological signs in the wiki article for this one.

Well Gilmartin's obsession with the occult isn't really relevant to how batshit his loveshy stuff is.

From what I've seen of the loveshies, it could explain where they've gone wrong too. Looks like they all got rejected like everyone does from time to time, some maybe a little worse or more often than most for whatever reason, only instead of learning from it and trying something different, they became bitterly resentful and closed their minds to it like someone else we know.

I gotta disagree with you here. From what I see in most loveshies, they don't really have a history of rejection... because they don't actually try in the first place. Most of them just hang around a girl and pretend to be her friend, they never man up and say they want to date her or anything. They invent an illusion of rejection to sustain their victimhood.

 

[CatParty]

Comparing it to Gilmartin? Really? At least I didn't see anything about Kirlian auras or astrological signs in the wiki article for this one.

Well Gilmartin's obsession with the occult isn't really relevant to how batshit his loveshy stuff is.

From what I've seen of the loveshies, it could explain where they've gone wrong too. Looks like they all got rejected like everyone does from time to time, some maybe a little worse or more often than most for whatever reason, only instead of learning from it and trying something different, they became bitterly resentful and closed their minds to it like someone else we know.

I gotta disagree with you here. From what I see in most loveshies, they don't really have a history of rejection... because they don't actually try in the first place. Most of them just hang around a girl and pretend to be her friend, they never man up and say they want to date her or anything. They invent an illusion of rejection to sustain their victimhood.

oh most definitely, the weren't really rejected, they were just too scared to fail

 

[Marvin]

Comparing it to Gilmartin? Really? At least I didn't see anything about Kirlian auras or astrological signs in the wiki article for this one.

The comparison is that someone is inventing (or adopting) a "disorder" to explain their own failings.

From what I've seen of the loveshies, it could explain where they've gone wrong too. Looks like they all got rejected like everyone does from time to time, some maybe a little worse or more often than most for whatever reason, only instead of learning from it and trying something different, they became bitterly resentful and closed their minds to it like someone else we know.

I gotta disagree with you here. From what I see in most loveshies, they don't really have a history of rejection... because they don't actually try in the first place. Most of them just hang around a girl and pretend to be her friend, they never man up and say they want to date her or anything. They invent an illusion of rejection to sustain their victimhood.

This. They quickly get to a point where they'll consistently pussy out and blame everyone else for their problems. Hey, that sounds familiar...