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Silly question, I know, but this just came to mind and I'm kinda curious.
People on disability don't pay income tax, so they can't get an income return check from from their check money, but if they worked outside the home and got paid from that, they would have to file for that work and might get a return from that. You see, the military is a job and the government doesn't see people on disability as working a job. Trust me my family members have been disabled all my life. They don't file. If they got a small part time job not making over a max amount, they would pay taxes and file on that work income, but might still be able to keep their checks or the check gets decreased depending on how much they make on a job.Abhor-able said:i got a tax return for my first year in the army, and i made half of what chris does every month.
Eh, high school and college are a lot easier than gainful employment, especially in the area that Chris is handicapped in (social interaction).LucridMockery said:It sucks because it's people like him that make others want to get rid of stuff for the disabled because they think everyone is a scam artist like Chris. He could find some work to do if he wasn't so lazy. My feeling is, if he had the mental compacity to graduate high school and college "mainstreamed" then he can work like everybody else. My family are physically disabled but worked for decades paying into SS and still don't get as big a check as Chris!! And he never worked and paid in a damn dime!!
He could get a physical job like digging ditches, construction, warehouse unloading. He had 18 years to overcome those social problems and he could have even gotten free help from school but Borb didn't want to admit that their son wasn't socially normal basically.Marvin said:Eh, high school and college are a lot easier than gainful employment, especially in the area that Chris is handicapped in (social interaction).LucridMockery said:It sucks because it's people like him that make others want to get rid of stuff for the disabled because they think everyone is a scam artist like Chris. He could find some work to do if he wasn't so lazy. My feeling is, if he had the mental compacity to graduate high school and college "mainstreamed" then he can work like everybody else. My family are physically disabled but worked for decades paying into SS and still don't get as big a check as Chris!! And he never worked and paid in a damn dime!!
Do you think it's feasible for anyone to have mental disabilities that would justify receiving disability payments?LucridMockery said:He could get a physical job like digging ditches, construction, warehouse unloading. He had 18 years to overcome those social problems and he could have even gotten free help from school but Borb didn't want to admit that their son wasn't socially normal basically.Marvin said:Eh, high school and college are a lot easier than gainful employment, especially in the area that Chris is handicapped in (social interaction).LucridMockery said:It sucks because it's people like him that make others want to get rid of stuff for the disabled because they think everyone is a scam artist like Chris. He could find some work to do if he wasn't so lazy. My feeling is, if he had the mental compacity to graduate high school and college "mainstreamed" then he can work like everybody else. My family are physically disabled but worked for decades paying into SS and still don't get as big a check as Chris!! And he never worked and paid in a damn dime!!
Marvin said:Do you think it's feasible for anyone to have mental disabilities that would justify receiving disability payments?
Yes, but not Chris. He is supposedly not crazy or unstable or a danger to himself or others. Supposedly he understands reality. If he is considered normal enough to live alone unattended to with no nurse or social worker and could graduate college and is not on any mental pills, then why is he getting full disability? Like I said, his check is bigger then my parents that I had to grow up on and that they had to support a family on with kids. He is not legitimately disabled mentally. I saw a guy from the special Olympics on tv who owned his own restaurant! It was a booming success. And Down Syndrome makes people not able to understand all social cues. But this guy worked to overcome those problems. What's wrong with Chris is not unfixable. He just needs job training.Marvin said:Do you think it's feasible for anyone to have mental disabilities that would justify receiving disability payments?
LucridMockery said:He could get a physical job like digging ditches, construction, warehouse unloading. He had 18 years to overcome those social problems and he could have even gotten free help from school but Borb didn't want to admit that their son wasn't socially normal basically.Marvin said:Eh, high school and college are a lot easier than gainful employment, especially in the area that Chris is handicapped in (social interaction).LucridMockery said:It sucks because it's people like him that make others want to get rid of stuff for the disabled because they think everyone is a scam artist like Chris. He could find some work to do if he wasn't so lazy. My feeling is, if he had the mental compacity to graduate high school and college "mainstreamed" then he can work like everybody else. My family are physically disabled but worked for decades paying into SS and still don't get as big a check as Chris!! And he never worked and paid in a damn dime!!
Well there are part time jobs or minimum wage jobs, but sustaining yourself off of things like that is difficult. And sure, there are going to be some people of lower intelligence who can do a lot better than the average retard, but do we, as a country, believe that people with mental disabilities can, consistently enough, provide for themselves? Some people might not think that. I don't really have an opinion either way.Bgheff said:Marvin said:Do you think it's feasible for anyone to have mental disabilities that would justify receiving disability payments?
Hard to say. I've seen several people with lower forums of Autism than Chris and they were able to hold jobs. When I was in college I worked at a grocery store, there were two autistic people who did bagging/ got the carts. One of them was kind of difficult to get along with,but both were able to do their jobs just fine. Chris would just need a job that keeps him away from doing customer service and interacting with the public. He is mentally capable of doing some sort of repetitious entry level job I am sure.
Oh pfft, college doesn't mean anything for Chris. Plus it took him six years to earn a two year degree.LucridMockery said:Yes, but not Chris. He is supposedly not crazy or unstable or a danger to himself or others. Supposedly he understands reality. If he is considered normal enough to live alone unattended to with no nurse or social worker and could graduate college and is not on any mental pills, then why is he getting full disability?Marvin said:Do you think it's feasible for anyone to have mental disabilities that would justify receiving disability payments?
Again, individual successes don't mean shit. There are always exceptions, it doesn't mean we expect people with mental problems to consistently succeed.LucridMockery said:Like I said, his check is bigger then my parents that I had to grow up on and that they had to support a family on with kids. He is not legitimately disabled mentally. I saw a guy from the special Olympics on tv who owned his own restaurant! It was a booming success. And Down Syndrome makes people not able to understand all social cues. But this guy worked to overcome those problems. What's wrong with Chris is not unfixable. He just needs job training.
Marvin said:Well there are part time jobs or minimum wage jobs, but sustaining yourself off of things like that is difficult. And sure, there are going to be some people of lower intelligence who can do a lot better than the average retard, but do we, as a country, believe that people with mental disabilities can, consistently enough, provide for themselves? Some people might not think that. I don't really have an opinion either way.Bgheff said:Marvin said:Do you think it's feasible for anyone to have mental disabilities that would justify receiving disability payments?
Hard to say. I've seen several people with lower forums of Autism than Chris and they were able to hold jobs. When I was in college I worked at a grocery store, there were two autistic people who did bagging/ got the carts. One of them was kind of difficult to get along with,but both were able to do their jobs just fine. Chris would just need a job that keeps him away from doing customer service and interacting with the public. He is mentally capable of doing some sort of repetitious entry level job I am sure.
But if we do believe that people with mental problems could deserve payments to help themselves support themselves, I believe Chris, in his current state (and for the forseeable future), needs his tugboat to survive.