Does Chris Pay his Taxes? -

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Silly question, I know, but this just came to mind and I'm kinda curious.
 

LucridMockery

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Disability people don't have to file unless they work (some can work to a certain point and keep their checks like the blind)

I have relatives on SSI SSDI and they don't have to file. But they are still paying property taxes, sales tax etc. just not payroll and income tax.
 

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Did he have to file taxes for his month at Wendy's?
 

LucridMockery

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you are supposed to file if you make above a certain amount like $1000 a year. But the law might be different per state. Maybe that explains why Chris never applied to financial aid for school because you need to file with the IRS before you can fill out your FAFSA

Only get a return if you overpay.
 

LucridMockery

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Abhor-able said:
i got a tax return for my first year in the army, and i made half of what chris does every month.
People on disability don't pay income tax, so they can't get an income return check from from their check money, but if they worked outside the home and got paid from that, they would have to file for that work and might get a return from that. You see, the military is a job and the government doesn't see people on disability as working a job. Trust me my family members have been disabled all my life. They don't file. If they got a small part time job not making over a max amount, they would pay taxes and file on that work income, but might still be able to keep their checks or the check gets decreased depending on how much they make on a job.

I think Kasey told Chris he could make up to $800 a month and still keep his check but he doesn't want to bother. On a tex return form, he would only have to list his job income and there is a seperate part for other, non-taxable income.
 

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As previously mentioned, Chris only gets SSDI and he does not have to pay taxes on it because he does not get enough. Assuming that he still gets the $800-$900 range. If you get more than a certain amount than you may have to pay a tax depending. Chris gets nowhere near that amount and therefor doesn't have to pay any taxes...more money for legos and Mickey D's...
 

LucridMockery

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It sucks because it's people like him that make others want to get rid of stuff for the disabled because they think everyone is a scam artist like Chris. He could find some work to do if he wasn't so lazy. My feeling is, if he had the mental compacity to graduate high school and college "mainstreamed" then he can work like everybody else. My family are physically disabled but worked for decades paying into SS and still don't get as big a check as Chris!! And he never worked and paid in a damn dime!!
 

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There also is the possibility of Chris having to pay taxes for his work with Cutco. That's assuming he made any money off of that job.
 

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LucridMockery said:
It sucks because it's people like him that make others want to get rid of stuff for the disabled because they think everyone is a scam artist like Chris. He could find some work to do if he wasn't so lazy. My feeling is, if he had the mental compacity to graduate high school and college "mainstreamed" then he can work like everybody else. My family are physically disabled but worked for decades paying into SS and still don't get as big a check as Chris!! And he never worked and paid in a damn dime!!
Eh, high school and college are a lot easier than gainful employment, especially in the area that Chris is handicapped in (social interaction).
 

LucridMockery

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Marvin said:
LucridMockery said:
It sucks because it's people like him that make others want to get rid of stuff for the disabled because they think everyone is a scam artist like Chris. He could find some work to do if he wasn't so lazy. My feeling is, if he had the mental compacity to graduate high school and college "mainstreamed" then he can work like everybody else. My family are physically disabled but worked for decades paying into SS and still don't get as big a check as Chris!! And he never worked and paid in a damn dime!!
Eh, high school and college are a lot easier than gainful employment, especially in the area that Chris is handicapped in (social interaction).
He could get a physical job like digging ditches, construction, warehouse unloading. He had 18 years to overcome those social problems and he could have even gotten free help from school but Borb didn't want to admit that their son wasn't socially normal basically.
 

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LucridMockery said:
Marvin said:
LucridMockery said:
It sucks because it's people like him that make others want to get rid of stuff for the disabled because they think everyone is a scam artist like Chris. He could find some work to do if he wasn't so lazy. My feeling is, if he had the mental compacity to graduate high school and college "mainstreamed" then he can work like everybody else. My family are physically disabled but worked for decades paying into SS and still don't get as big a check as Chris!! And he never worked and paid in a damn dime!!
Eh, high school and college are a lot easier than gainful employment, especially in the area that Chris is handicapped in (social interaction).
He could get a physical job like digging ditches, construction, warehouse unloading. He had 18 years to overcome those social problems and he could have even gotten free help from school but Borb didn't want to admit that their son wasn't socially normal basically.
Do you think it's feasible for anyone to have mental disabilities that would justify receiving disability payments?
 

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SSDI isn't taxable, but even if it was, what's the point? Chris would just be giving the government back its own money which it would then turn around and give to him again.
 

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Marvin said:
Do you think it's feasible for anyone to have mental disabilities that would justify receiving disability payments?

Hard to say. I've seen several people with lower forums of Autism than Chris and they were able to hold jobs. When I was in college I worked at a grocery store, there were two autistic people who did bagging/ got the carts. One of them was kind of difficult to get along with,but both were able to do their jobs just fine. Chris would just need a job that keeps him away from doing customer service and interacting with the public. He is mentally capable of doing some sort of repetitious entry level job I am sure.
 

LucridMockery

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Marvin said:
Do you think it's feasible for anyone to have mental disabilities that would justify receiving disability payments?
Yes, but not Chris. He is supposedly not crazy or unstable or a danger to himself or others. Supposedly he understands reality. If he is considered normal enough to live alone unattended to with no nurse or social worker and could graduate college and is not on any mental pills, then why is he getting full disability? Like I said, his check is bigger then my parents that I had to grow up on and that they had to support a family on with kids. He is not legitimately disabled mentally. I saw a guy from the special Olympics on tv who owned his own restaurant! It was a booming success. And Down Syndrome makes people not able to understand all social cues. But this guy worked to overcome those problems. What's wrong with Chris is not unfixable. He just needs job training.
 

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LucridMockery said:
Marvin said:
LucridMockery said:
It sucks because it's people like him that make others want to get rid of stuff for the disabled because they think everyone is a scam artist like Chris. He could find some work to do if he wasn't so lazy. My feeling is, if he had the mental compacity to graduate high school and college "mainstreamed" then he can work like everybody else. My family are physically disabled but worked for decades paying into SS and still don't get as big a check as Chris!! And he never worked and paid in a damn dime!!
Eh, high school and college are a lot easier than gainful employment, especially in the area that Chris is handicapped in (social interaction).
He could get a physical job like digging ditches, construction, warehouse unloading. He had 18 years to overcome those social problems and he could have even gotten free help from school but Borb didn't want to admit that their son wasn't socially normal basically.

Would you trust Chris with construction machinery?
 

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Bgheff said:
Marvin said:
Do you think it's feasible for anyone to have mental disabilities that would justify receiving disability payments?

Hard to say. I've seen several people with lower forums of Autism than Chris and they were able to hold jobs. When I was in college I worked at a grocery store, there were two autistic people who did bagging/ got the carts. One of them was kind of difficult to get along with,but both were able to do their jobs just fine. Chris would just need a job that keeps him away from doing customer service and interacting with the public. He is mentally capable of doing some sort of repetitious entry level job I am sure.
Well there are part time jobs or minimum wage jobs, but sustaining yourself off of things like that is difficult. And sure, there are going to be some people of lower intelligence who can do a lot better than the average retard, but do we, as a country, believe that people with mental disabilities can, consistently enough, provide for themselves? Some people might not think that. I don't really have an opinion either way.

But if we do believe that people with mental problems could deserve payments to help themselves support themselves, I believe Chris, in his current state (and for the forseeable future), needs his tugboat to survive.

LucridMockery said:
Marvin said:
Do you think it's feasible for anyone to have mental disabilities that would justify receiving disability payments?
Yes, but not Chris. He is supposedly not crazy or unstable or a danger to himself or others. Supposedly he understands reality. If he is considered normal enough to live alone unattended to with no nurse or social worker and could graduate college and is not on any mental pills, then why is he getting full disability?
Oh pfft, college doesn't mean anything for Chris. Plus it took him six years to earn a two year degree.

LucridMockery said:
Like I said, his check is bigger then my parents that I had to grow up on and that they had to support a family on with kids. He is not legitimately disabled mentally. I saw a guy from the special Olympics on tv who owned his own restaurant! It was a booming success. And Down Syndrome makes people not able to understand all social cues. But this guy worked to overcome those problems. What's wrong with Chris is not unfixable. He just needs job training.
Again, individual successes don't mean shit. There are always exceptions, it doesn't mean we expect people with mental problems to consistently succeed.
 

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Marvin said:
Bgheff said:
Marvin said:
Do you think it's feasible for anyone to have mental disabilities that would justify receiving disability payments?

Hard to say. I've seen several people with lower forums of Autism than Chris and they were able to hold jobs. When I was in college I worked at a grocery store, there were two autistic people who did bagging/ got the carts. One of them was kind of difficult to get along with,but both were able to do their jobs just fine. Chris would just need a job that keeps him away from doing customer service and interacting with the public. He is mentally capable of doing some sort of repetitious entry level job I am sure.
Well there are part time jobs or minimum wage jobs, but sustaining yourself off of things like that is difficult. And sure, there are going to be some people of lower intelligence who can do a lot better than the average retard, but do we, as a country, believe that people with mental disabilities can, consistently enough, provide for themselves? Some people might not think that. I don't really have an opinion either way.

But if we do believe that people with mental problems could deserve payments to help themselves support themselves, I believe Chris, in his current state (and for the forseeable future), needs his tugboat to survive.

Anna bitches about being poor on her minimum wage job. I assume it does suck, but there is always going to be that class that has to live on it. If it turns out Chris is competent enough to manage his money to not live on the streets when Barb crocks, I think he was competent enough to work a minimum or close to minimum wage job. I believe that would end up giving him close to what the tugboat is anyways if he worked full time.

Granted, if Chris got fired I could see him having issues surviving and getting a new job before everything went to shit. This is less of an issue with his autism and more of an issue with his parents letting him be lazy his entire life. However, on the other hand just giving him a monthly paycheck for life in his current state is playing up his condition.

In the end, the biggest obstacle to Chris having a job and living on it would be his foot dragging, stress sighing ways. As he is now, he would flounder without the tugboat. This is totally unrelated to why he actually gets it though.
 
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