Does making videos help or hurt chris? or could it help? -

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RagtimeRoastBeefy

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one thing i thought of with the new video was how nervous he was, which could be any of the following factors.

1. his mother was filming it, and he was wary of saying something out of line in front of her as she is framiliar with his videos of the past, and may or may not have banned him from making videos

2. he was in mcdonalds, trying not to be kicked out. to me it is entirely possible his mother may actually have been there are part of some agreement with the owners as a condition of him being able to be there.


Another thing about chris and videomaking was that in the past he was more and more coherant. When the videomaking starts to slow down, he becomes less so, till eventually speaking becomes even weirder, ie the jackie videos. We can see that a well socialized chris in His after high school message is very coherant, and hes almost a normal guy in it. The "golden age" chris videos hes almost always coherant, although absolutely mad.

It seems to me, that even though the videos are damning to his reputation and things that ought to never see the light of day, that there is in some way a way in which chris helps himself through them.

In the videos chris often apologizes, acknowledges wrongs, if only to appear as someone not maniacally egotistical and deeply insensitive. In this act he goes through all the motions of the apology and even though the apology is then contradicted in some way shape or form, even in the form of comic book effigies murdered in cold blood, chris acknowledges in some way that an apology is called for when a person commits a wrongful act on someone else, and that he may have actually hurt someones feelings.

In the video chris engages with someone, albeit an imaginary someone through the videos. He has to make eye contact with the camera, talk to it as if it was an audience, interact with a potential someone. Here is where i think it could be a beneficial avenue for him, or heres where i think it was a beneficial avenue for him. Chris could essentially interact with an audience and get it wrong as many times as he liked and then improve on his method. He could essentially fuck up many many times and not worry about the consequences of it as the videos are often made for an audience that aren't his in real life friends or family. I think his interactions with people at that bar.

And finally, videos like the current one, which are creepy and weird for a multitude of reasons, also can register as a bit more vanilla than videos of him screaming and throwing fits. That maybe the key to his over-documented life is to document more aspects of it, so that he appears as something more dimensional than what he currently appears as.


just some thoughts.
 

dangerousanalysis

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Re: Does making videos help or hurt chris? or could it help

I dunno if the videos really helped or hurt Chris. TBH watching his various adventures in insanity was how I first was introduced to him. I really do think though that he is unintentionally hilarious and entertaining in his own weird way without the need for trolling or provoking. Ideally he could come back to YT and maybe make vids on some sort of regular basis. Like if he was smart enough to figure out monetization, he could make a lot more cash than his :tugboat: . As a youtube partner myself I know how lucrative it can be.
 

Zim

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Re: Does making videos help or hurt chris? or could it help

As much as I like his videos I think they overall hurt him. Not physically of course but in most cases it just allowed more ammo for trolling and made the trolls want to troll him more just to garner a silly response. I think they pushed him into the realm of "unrecoverable internet infamey" also and that wasn't good for him.

On the otherhand even if we never discovered him or his videos his life would still be exactly where it is now. *sigh*
 

Foulmouth

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Re: Does making videos help or hurt chris? or could it help

I'd say they've definitely hurt him over the long run but they give many people many chuckles.
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Sweet and Savoury

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Re: Does making videos help or hurt chris? or could it help

how could something that brought so much joy into so many lives be bad?

:mrgreen:
 

The Dude

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Re: Does making videos help or hurt chris? or could it help

I take the stance that they did both help and hindered him, but did more good than ill. It was something more active and, for lack of a better word "constructive" for him to do to communicate. Facebook isn't exactly an "active" means of communication. It takes little to no effort to post some bitch fest pity party in his wall. Videos required him to actually talk, set up the camera, then upload it. Not a LOT of effort mind you, but more than typing up a couple lines of self pity on his iPhone. Then again, maybe that's why he does it instead of videos now. Lazy Chris is lazy after all.
 

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whatever he does hurts himself.
 

Big Bob Pataki

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if he posts nothing but videos of himself playing with legos, he could be a youtube partner and get paid for doing so :tugboat:
 

Francis York Morgan

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Re: Does making videos help or hurt chris? or could it help

In the long run, the videos will only hurt Chris because he lacks any sort of filter. With him, it is not an "if" but "when" on the question of whether or not he'll do something stupid and get in trouble.
 

Suloxide

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Big Bob Pataki said:
if he posts nothing but videos of himself playing with legos, he could be a youtube partner and get paid for doing so :tugboat:

I believe in order to be a partner you need to put out videos on a regular basis, acquire X amount of comments and X amount of subscribers. As nice as it would be to see Chris get some kind of income, him playing with legos isn't going to bring in the hits like his old Captain's Logs.
 

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RagtimeRoastBeefy said:
1. his mother was filming it, and he was wary of saying something out of line in front of her as she is framiliar with his videos of the past, and may or may not have banned him from making videos
Nah, Barb's pretty much bedridden, that wasn't Barb. Barb isn't that familiar with Chris' videos and I think she's very unaware of the impact his videos had.
 

DrChristianTroy

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At this point I don't think they would help or hinder Chris. Lets say he made a video every day. While it would be a bit of structure in his life it'd be about 30 minutes with the rest for him to stew in his own angry/lonely state. Whatever bit of good they do would be undone once he gets back to his games and hoping Barb doesn't bitch at him.
 

The Dude

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Marvin said:
RagtimeRoastBeefy said:
1. his mother was filming it, and he was wary of saying something out of line in front of her as she is framiliar with his videos of the past, and may or may not have banned him from making videos
Nah, Barb's pretty much bedridden, that wasn't Barb. Barb isn't that familiar with Chris' videos and I think she's very unaware of the impact his videos had.

Is she bedridden because of health, or laziness?
 

Meeko

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The Dude said:
Is she bedridden because of health, or laziness?

Both, probably. I can see her having trouble getting up and about, but I can also see her milking it for all that it's worth and using it as an excuse to give into depression and not do anything. If I were Chris, I'd use this as an opportunity to get into some of the other rooms and slowly get rid of some of the various pieces of obvious junk a piece at a time. Then again, this is Chris and he won't even clean up his own mess, let alone Barb's.

As far as videos go, I think that they helped him in some ways. It opened him up to more trolling but I think that it helped him to have a place to vent. I think that's probably the only good thing about this current video is that it helps give him an outlet of sorts. I think that if he were to stick to videos such as the one he made today and to maybe disable comments, odds are that he'd probably pass over a lot of the repercussions he received from his prior uploads. Again, this is Chris and he doesn't really apply a lot of common sense to things.
 

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The Dude said:
Marvin said:
RagtimeRoastBeefy said:
1. his mother was filming it, and he was wary of saying something out of line in front of her as she is framiliar with his videos of the past, and may or may not have banned him from making videos
Nah, Barb's pretty much bedridden, that wasn't Barb. Barb isn't that familiar with Chris' videos and I think she's very unaware of the impact his videos had.

Is she bedridden because of health, or laziness?
I don't know, actually. Maybe a combination of the two? I can't imagine she feels that great with the current state of her health. I think she mostly relies on Chris to get her the things she needs, with her leaving the house herself being the exception.
 

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Re: Does making videos help or hurt chris? or could it help

This question is virtually identical to asking whether Chris would have been better off if he wasn't "discovered".

I can't imagine it would affect his employment/social life/family life or anything like that.

If he didn't make videos, the Christorian society would be much smaller. He would thus have a lot fewer interactions with the world. But Chris feels, and I think fairly legitimately so, that most of these interactions have been negative. So a bit of both.

I guess I see the argument that the videos encourage Chris to try to be coherent/do something. I just think that effect is really second order.

Some people have said that after he hasn't made a video for a while the video is less coherent. Even if we take your premise, could it not be a question of nerves. In my career I alternate between phases with a lot and a little public speaking. When I haven't given a speech in a while, I am always a lot more nervous, and the product isn't as good, even though I haven't done it in a while.

I guess I think that 5-10 minutes of talking a couple times a week shouldn't significantly affect someone's communications skills in general. Even for Chris, I think it is just his talking to a camera skill.
 

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Re: Does making videos help or hurt chris? or could it help

Hard to say. The thing is Chris has fucked up his life so bad, that the videos whether they did good or bad are so minuscule that it pales to his other issues.
 

Lefty's Revenge

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Re: Does making videos help or hurt chris? or could it help

I think in the past they've done more harm than good. But nowadays? I think he could benefit from doing some. He gets very little human interaction these days and I think he could benefit from having something to do other than whine on FB. I mean, talking to a camera isn't ideal but it beats the hell out of just murmuring the same three phrases to barb every day.
 

Dork Of Ages

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Re: Does making videos help or hurt chris? or could it help

Currently, making videos are not really beneficial or harmful to him. He doesn't get too much direct contact from trolls nowadays (except the occasional julay) so posting a video or a FB message is all content now. It's not as crazy and varied like the classic days.
 

Princess

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It was the closest thing to a creative outlet that he had. In some videos he seemed genuinely happy, and even a bit smug. But outside of being an outlet for him, making videos only served to spread his internet infamy so they were quite damaging.
 
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