Trainwreck Dollieguts / Tearzah Hayes / Salem Haze / Dreamalgia / Dollieguts / Faedoll / Dollclaws and Bailey Lovell / David Caleb Balaski - Creatively bankrupt and quickly degrading artist inspires copycats everywhere to read this thread

[Piss Faggot]

As far as I've heard, and don't quote me on this; drawing and writing is an okay way to cope with trauma... if it's fucking kept to yourself and isn't romanticized. There's a sliver of truth to coping when you have power in the scenario, but it is usually not encouraged by therapists to fucking draw children in porn.

It's exactly as bad as tearzah. mutuals and fans of theirs claimed it was coping with abuse but that isn't coping. coping isn't hearts, sparkles, pink, kawaii creepy shit. it's like vent art. it's dark, its a way to express your feelings and experiences in a way that doesn't hurt you or anyone else (hence the keeping it to yourself). It's extremely disheartening to see someone who was so respected under a thread like tearzahs turn out to be just as bad.

Drawing pornagraphic images of children as a CSA survivor is not coping in the slightest, it only serves as a conduit to retraumatize the individual or enable the stereotypical cycle of victim to perpetrator. I feel honestly offended to find out one of the people that I almost saw as a trustworthy source of information to be just as full of shit and morally bankrupt as Tearzah and Stwawbwewy.

In a therapeutic setting the ideal is to be able to open up about the trauma that is causing these thoughts, and understand there is a reason for them but it is not acceptable behavior; To deroot the trauma, stabilize oneself, and to yknow, be fucking normal again. Even in art therapy these things are not to be praised, the image may be conjured, examined, but should be shunned, to see it as something bad to able take out of one's mind and personality, to destroy it. Brooding over a traumatic event to the point of 'intrusive thoughts' is one thing, but to claim fetish play with a child character is coping is like calling a steaming pile of shit a shiny ripe fruit. These types of images can also be kept to oneself, to vent, but the moment it is posted publicly, framed as erotic, inserted with fetishes. It is not coping, it is morally bankrupt sexual fantasy under the guise of funny buzzwords.

I did use this site for rp several years ago, but with other characters, not this one. The purpose of that character is safe Trauma Mastery so having only half control over a scenario is counterintuitive or even dangerous. You especially can't relinquish that control when the site now crawls with #MAPPride accounts that site staff refuses to ban.

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/f-list-horrorcows.11319/page-18#post-6394773

Trauma mastery involves revisiting sites of trauma and reliving the moments, preferably in a controlled manner that has a POSITIVE OUTCOME. Usually the positive outcome in this situation is, oh, I don't know, not drawing a child getting raped? Perhaps, not indulging in the fantasy of pedophiles by roleplaying a child? Drawing and roleplaying an infantile character getting molested and impregnated is not vent art, not when you frame it as erotic and fill it with fetishes, and post it publicly knowing full well who is consuming that content- you should be ashamed of yourself. The only thing you're doing is participating in a circlejerk of people getting off to little kids being drawn sexually because you're too retarded to realize you should feel shame and remorse for sexual thoughts about children, CSA victim or not.

 

[Revo]

I wonder why is so hard for people like @NoFeline to express their fetishes in private/for themselves instead of sharing them on the Internet like twitter, kiwi farms, Deviantart, etc.?

 

[bjdgutz]

I wonder why is so hard for people like @NoFeline to express their fetishes in private/for themselves instead of sharing them on the Internet like twitter, kiwi farms, Deviantart, etc.?

Or better yet, get therapy and not get into that shit in the first place?

My guess is that they share it so they can get in touch with like-minded individuals and trade cp.

 

[WXY]

I wonder why is so hard for people like @NoFeline to express their fetishes in private/for themselves instead of sharing them on the Internet like twitter, kiwi farms, Deviantart, etc.?

humiliation kink.

 

[threebeanrice]

Say it with me, kids:

If you have to tell people you're better that the cow, you probably aren't.

This is the funniest post to revisit.

 

[Menhera-Chan]

This sure is something to come back to. I'm attempting to fully catch up, but if there's anything I need to edit send me a pm. The op is really outdated and I just don't have the time to keep up here to be honest.

 

[woowie queen]

This sure is something to come back to. I'm attempting to fully catch up, but if there's anything I need to edit send me a pm. The op is really outdated and I just don't have the time to keep up here to be honest.

in three years, salem got worse.
in all.
they became a wild ride.

 

[darklord]

I wonder why is so hard for people like @NoFeline to express their fetishes in private/for themselves instead of sharing them on the Internet like twitter, kiwi farms, Deviantart, etc.?

because they want to be a cow. they think it’ll get them more fame, but it’ll just make people ridicule them. tearzah gets off to being a cow, the fact that she’s the most problematic person on the internet gets her this wave of attention

 

[Big Tiddy Bara]

I wonder why is so hard for people like @NoFeline to express their fetishes in private/for themselves instead of sharing them on the Internet like twitter, kiwi farms, Deviantart, etc.?

Stupidity. Or, in Stwawbwewwymilk and Todokaras' case, attention whoring.

 

[Piss Faggot]

I wonder why is so hard for people like @NoFeline to express their fetishes in private/for themselves instead of sharing them on the Internet like twitter, kiwi farms, Deviantart, etc.?

I have a theory as to why this happens? Putting in spoilers because I'm just a little bit mentally special and wrote quite a bit bit. Feel free to skip.

Spoiler: sperging on why i think this happens

What can often be seen in CSA victims, and really, any and all victims or witnesses to violent crimes, is the thought and memories of these events lingering in the brain and affecting (in this context) how someone consumes and produces content. Even if someone isn't a victim or witness to these crimes in real life, the internet has made access to lolishota & cub so surface level and easy, that it, technically speaking, does traumatize more people and rewire how they perceive it depending on the context. This is why grooming is such a powerful and sickeningly prevalent issue in internet culture with adolescents, the cycle of abuse being perpetuated by roping in people who don't know how to handle the 'intrusive thoughts' that affects some CSA victims and mixing in internet trauma into the mix. Grooming and the lolishota/cub community puts the context of these traumatizing and negative imagery into a area of praise, gratification, reward, and acceptance, It doesn't take an expert to make that sort of blanket observation if you look hard enough.

The constant viewing of this imagery in a sexual light, a perceived "positive" light in this context, will rewire someone's thought process to not see images of children being sexualized as gross or bad' Instead the images will start to hit the same parts of the brain that, in a normal person, would be ignited by seeing a normal adult person they find attractive. The hope is that people that are falling into the trap of seeing this imagery as good - or have been so desensitized to seeing it that they 'don't care' or 'accept it' - will realize that they shouldn't by regular culture and people. That's why most people who do not consume anime content will find the sexualization of younger characters to be strange and uncomfortable, for example, it's not a part of common culture to want to sexualize kids, even for a joke. Anyways -- Since some of these traumatized people cannot handle the deserved shame, the guilt and penitence required to be attracted to someone their own fucking age, they stay in their pedo hugbox. At that point, if given enough chances to change, and be better, the person is just a pedophile. There's no redeeming or justifiying that. It's comparable to but not in the same boat as pro-shippers (think....same lake they're floating in, not same boat...) and how they produce content that is technically traumatizing, and rope people into that type of content because of the intercommunity praise, and now there's more people producing negative content without realizing how much its hurting them mentally and other people, either out of denial or because they're complete degenerates. Just as an example.

Victims often do try to reach out for help, but this reaching out may not be done in the right places or the right way, be it because of stubbornness or cluelessness. Some people reach out for help to the wrong people, or get wrangled into a groomer community over and over, where the production and consumption of this type of content is once again, met with praise, gratification, reward and acceptance. People want help and want this type of attention, but not getting from the right places like that ends up with normie sites and art sites getting flooded with CP from people who refuse to get better and want to beat their meat to children because it's harder to be completely normal because the level of praise isn't the same to them. Even if their personas of normal and pedo content are separated, its easy to tell when they enjoy the attention from the pedo side.

It is more of a case by case to judge someone on how they deal with breaking away from these types of communities and fixing what they have done. A victim breaking away and getting better is forgivable but still will be suspicious, and someone like NoFeline who never broke away and refuses to change in favor of sexual gratification is irredeemable, and is obviously still yearning for the praise the pedo hugbox gives no matter what every other normal person thinks, just like every other artist and consumer in that box does. Basically yes, it is attention whoring and complete stupidity with the added layers of mental issues.

Sorry if this didn't explain anything properly, just figured I'd try lol

 

[ultimate trash]

I'm gone for a bit and I miss this shit storm. What's next, my fellow kiwis?

 

[Sw33t track]

@okbavis in my (very limited) third person experience about this website, I can tell you that coming to Kiwifarms to defend your honor is a genius move that always goes as planed and never backfires whatsoever.
Come on, get real, you have not came to laugh, you're here to seethe.

 

[Doppio Vinegar]

I stopped coming to this thread for a while because Tearzah started to bore me, and now one of my favorite farmers is a shota/lolicon. FML

Spoiler: my opinion that no one asked for

If you're a shota/lolicon, you better shut up about it, because at the end of the day, you're not a hero for liking little kids. Keep your fetish to yourself and no one will laugh at you. Don't post that shit online, and if you want to draw it to jerk off to, delete it after the fact to not tempt yourself to post it- better yet, don't fucking draw it in general. Also, obligatory fuck you to NoFeline for bragging about sexualizing children.

 

[ikki]

So now NoFeline is a pedophile. What's next?

 

[Vandy]

What proof do we have that Bavid had CP / exploited minors? I feel like that isn’t something we should just accept as true because the thread came to a “consensus” on it and maybe Tearzah alluded to it on Twitter. I read the whole thread, but no one else here seems to have the evidence handy either, so a refresher would probably be worthwhile.

Don’t get me wrong - Bavid made piss jello which makes them certifiably deranged. I wouldn’t be surprised by anything. But let’s maybe just put our evidence on the table when throwing accusations of pedo shit around.

edit: got neg rated, but does anyone have proof, or are we just saying shit? I know a lot of people ITT don’t browse other threads but that’s not usually how we do it on KF

Well, for one they just admitted that they were investigated and had their computer seized.

I'm not searching the thread but I remember several people who had been minors and members of Salem's discord server talking about Bavid making inappropriate passes at them. The cheating with Salem, them knocking someone up, et cetera.

It's there, it didn't come out of thin air.

 

[furfag]

Bit of a PL regarding Bavid

Spoiler: Powerlevel

They definitely don't remember me, and I'm gonna make this short and sweet. Them and I were okay-ish and talked a few times a week. I was a gender special back then (easy to admit- most people were back then.) This is few years ago, I was 15-16, I think. (It's blurry) Long story short, tried to flirt with me and ask for nudes. Pretty sure this happened to a lot of people though so it's hard to pinpoint who it was. I turned 19 this January. I don't know if they ever knew my age because I'm pretty sure Bavid didn't read about pages. We weren't in a server or anything, so no intro or roles to go off of.
EDIT: Forgot to say about the not knowing part. Even if they didn't know, it's still fucking weird to not ask before asking someone for nudes, man.

Anyway, Bavid's always been a pedo. Once a nonce, always a nonce. Obligatory fuck you.
Oh, and everyone always forgets Bavid lied about having DID.

 

[LOCAL58NETWORKTELEVISION]

Bit of a PL regarding Bavid

Spoiler: Powerlevel

They definitely don't remember me, and I'm gonna make this short and sweet. Them and I were okay-ish and talked a few times a week. I was a gender special back then (easy to admit- most people were back then.) This is few years ago, I was 15-16, I think. (It's blurry) Long story short, tried to flirt with me and ask for nudes. Pretty sure this happened to a lot of people though so it's hard to pinpoint who it was. I turned 19 this January. I don't know if they ever knew my age because I'm pretty sure Bavid didn't read about pages. We weren't in a server or anything, so no intro or roles to go off of.
EDIT: Forgot to say about the not knowing part. Even if they didn't know, it's still fucking weird to not ask before asking someone for nudes, man.

Anyway, Bavid's always been a pedo. Once a nonce, always a nonce. Obligatory fuck you.
Oh, and everyone always forgets Bavid lied about having DID.

To be fair, Bavid lied about a lot of shit. Didn't Bavid claim they were part Japanese too? He's always been a bit too interested in minors.

I join you in saying 'fuck you' to Bavid.

 

[furfag]

To be fair, Bavid lied about a lot of shit. Didn't Bavid claim they were part Japanese too? He's always been a bit too interested in minors.

I join you in saying 'fuck you' to Bavid.

Yeah, they also lied about being an orphan. Weird things to lie about. I mean, a lot of people lied about their race on Tumblr a few years back- but Bavid really took it to a weird level.
The DID thing was really weird because last I remember, when things would go wrong it'd get blamed on alters and they'd get away with things.

 

[LOCAL58NETWORKTELEVISION]

Yeah, they also lied about being an orphan. Weird things to lie about. I mean, a lot of people lied about their race on Tumblr a few years back- but Bavid really took it to a weird level.
The DID thing was really weird because last I remember, when things would go wrong it'd get blamed on alters and they'd get away with things.

'UwU oOpSiE wOoPsIe mY aLtEr DiD a FuCkY wUcKY'

 

[slanderbot42]

This sure is something to come back to. I'm attempting to fully catch up, but if there's anything I need to edit send me a pm. The op is really outdated and I just don't have the time to keep up here to be honest.

I think Bailey being a pedophile is something that belongs in the OP.

Spoiler: “everything we know about Bailey being a pedo”

Spoiler: “tea’s initial accusations of flirting with children/cp, a mutual’s experience, + baileys responses”

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a lot of the time i guess i over share when talking to people? or i trust too much too fast? and people could take it as weird? also there were multiple people who lied about their age in even the server so honestly idk if i flirted with one at this point but i have no and never have had a desire to speak or even be good friends with someone who is a minor.

also i really dont know about the cp thing i dont save nsfw stuff just bc its embarrassing but i dont view cp in any form. ALSO hentai is cringe ngl yall save that shit on ur phone?

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What age did you think this person was? The screenshots say that you're "way older".

ok first of all i completely understand how that makes me look SO sus but the "older" was moreso in reference to me being more sexually experienced than them, since i assumed they were 18 or 19.

... & the recent post, which was taken as Bailey suggesting they had their device confiscated:

Please concern yourself with the people that are still actively exposing and talking to children; I'm sure they wouldn't be able to survive the time it takes to have their devices confiscated. Trust me, I would know from experience.

To be honest I read this as them saying “I would know from experience how addicted Tea is to their devices.” Clearly the thread read it as confirmation that Baileys devices were taken and I can see why. Bailey if you have anything to clarify here speak now or consider it confirmation you are a fucking nonce. And if Baileys phone was taken, did Tea or one of her orbiters report it after all?

TLDR: a minor on Twitter confirms Bailey sent them his afab bulge on Discord, after having known the minor since they were 15. DM’s were leaked between Bailey and a (presumably different) minor where despite claiming he thought they were 18 or 19, Bailey fetishizes their age. Tea claims Bailey had CP on his phone, which Bailey, a proven liar, denies.

I would DM you OP but I’m not sure how to insert all those quotes. I was bothered that the Bailey proof had not previously been gathered in an easy-to-reference place. I hope this will be helpful to the thread.