Careercow Donald J Trump - 45th President of the USA, Epstein bro, serial liar, cheat and the Chris-Chan of Presidents

Does Donny have a chance in 2024?

  • Absolutely, tremendously. Sleepy Joe is already losing and ballots are Chinese

    Votes: 39 18.8%
  • I am trusting the plan with every fiber of my being. I hurt with how hard I trust the plan.

    Votes: 21 10.1%
  • У меня аутизм, пожалуйста, смейся надо мной

    Votes: 52 25.1%
  • Slow down CornPop, Joe's already got the oval office chair just right. He's staying.

    Votes: 43 20.8%
  • JEB!

    Votes: 115 55.6%

  • Total voters
    207

deangusmacteard

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It's all about looking stronk. Conservatives don't want reasoned discussion, they want to be riled up. And somehow or another, Trump's beta-male posturing resonated.
Nah. Like with Dems, it's mostly virtue signaling - just with different virtues.

Trump would have sold like a shit sandwich if he hadn't publicly and repeatedly flouted hot-button Republican taboos that he spent years learning how to attack by following fringe Republican populists. Establishment Republicans are constantly scared of offending rich donors, Wall Street, the military-industrial complex, the immigration-hungry Chamber of Commerce, law enforcement, the intelligence community and press.

Trump just took a bunch of 80%+ popular beliefs and hammered them like a fiend: (polls linked from 2016 when possible - reminder: these same pollsters vastly underestimated Trump's performance)
These are all things the majority of Americans believed in 2015, whether or not they were allowed to say so. This is kind of stuff normal people talked about in bars in every city and podunk town in the country.

The crazy thing about Trump is not that this strategy worked - it's that nobody else had bothered to try it in the 21st century. The closest analogue was Clinton in '96, who won in a landslide.
Yes and no. I was quite impressed how the entire Republican party came behind Trump despite Trump spitting some of the most vicious insults I’ve ever heard in a primary (specifically at Cruz and Rubio, but he was brutal on Jeb and Carly too). It wasn’t a smoke filled room deal, but it was surprising that the grudges did literally nothing. Everyone rallied around him without hesitation.
The entire Republican base did, but the party insiders and elected officials hated his guts - and most still do. What you saw with politicians eagerly flocking to his side was survival - street smarts over genuine loyalty.

All the convention types hated people like Cruz and Rubio - they're the most rabidly-conservative people in America and they've virulently hated the party insiders for decades. Trump was their chance to throw a grenade at the RNC.

As for the brutality against Cruz's wife... the Cruz team tried to attack Trump over marrying a supermodel who did nudes and lewds way back in ancient history - so it was not exactly surprising that Trump went nuclear on him. Most voters DGAF.
Throughout '17, Ted was biding his time to see if Trump would fumble the ball.
Yep. And, eventually, he too realized that he didn't have a future in the party if he was Anti-Trump. So instead trying to beat Trump, he switched to trying to become Trump. He's mostly been rehabilitated with the base since then. Lyin' Ted --> Lion Ted.
 

Lucas Silva #4903141

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RurkerHivemind

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In regards to the poll here,how many of us are actually going to the polls to write in Jeb for 2024?

Like be honest.
I don't think I will bother to vote like in 2016 and 2020.
 

proteus4994

True & Honest Fan
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In regards to the poll here,how many of us are actually going to the polls to write in Jeb for 2024?

Like be honest.
I don't think I will bother to vote like in 2016 and 2020.
I always vote, because state and local offices are important, but if the presidential choice in 2024 is something unimaginably terrible like Kamala vs. Cruz or something, I will absolutely write in Jeb.

I’d vote for Biden again though, he’s been surprisingly OK imo.
 

Piga Dgrifm

Assigned Hitler At Birth
True & Honest Fan
kiwifarms.net
In regards to the poll here,how many of us are actually going to the polls to write in Jeb for 2024?

Like be honest.
I don't think I will bother to vote like in 2016 and 2020.
I've written in Jeb! for every election since 2016, including local and school board elections. One of these days, he'll finally get something.
 

RurkerHivemind

kiwifarms.net
I always vote, because state and local offices are important, but if the presidential choice in 2024 is something unimaginably terrible like Kamala vs. Cruz or something, I will absolutely write in Jeb.

I’d vote for Biden again though, he’s been surprisingly OK imo.

To be quite honest,I still don't consider Biden to be lucid enough to think any decision of his administration is his own.

Like any failures he makes I won't really blame him as his situation is elderly abuse but at the same time I won't count any accomplishments of his administration as his as a result.
 

FuckingDogs4Living

kiwifarms.net
I’d vote for Biden again though, he’s been surprisingly OK imo.
I like Biden, if I were an american, I’d vote for him 100%. And not only due to his neoliberal agenda and him reminding me of my grandfather, I really think he’s handled COVID way better than Donnie and his infrastructure bill seems very promising.

Kamala is gross though, thankfully she seems to be a token woman/minority so far.
 

proteus4994

True & Honest Fan
kiwifarms.net
To be quite honest,I still don't consider Biden to be lucid enough to think any decision of his administration is his own.

Like any failures he makes I won't really blame him as his situation is elderly abuse but at the same time I won't count any accomplishments of his administration as his as a result.
I actually agree with this, but whoever is running the show behind the scenes is doing as good of a job as could be expected I guess, so I might as well vote for more of it.
 

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