One has to think that there is some sort of Russian fifth column in Kiev as well. The Americans had no such luck in Kabul/Baghdad as far as I know.
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Which is why Joe, the Hoe, and the chickenhawks will soon start clamoring for another Team America: World Police misadventure. It will have the added bonus of distracting from their own incompetence at home. Why else would they be propping up the Russophobic corpse of 1980's foreign policy.
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Corruption. People are where they are not because they are competent but because they have friends and pay bribes. This resulted in a command chain that consists of inept cowards. Stalin weeps, knowing this is what Russian secret agents have become.
Redditors and other too-online Anglos are completely lost when it comes to East Slavic affairs. Too much confidence for knowing too little.
I do not think the documentary could ever bring Putin down. I do think it penetrated the bubble of Russian opposition, however, and I doubt the authorities would be too happy about that, especially during an election year.
He could, but I doubt it would work. Accepting such an offer would mean political suicide for Zelensky.
Ukraine is never joining NATO or the EU. People who think it will, whether they live in or outside of Ukraine, are delusional. NATO and the EU will never accept a country with occupied territories and an active conflict. Nobody would want to spend money on it, and nobody would want to fight for it, especially against Russia. There is precious little Ukraine can offer Americans or Euros that Russia cannot.
I can understand why Ukrainian politicians talk about joining NATO and the EU: it serves to signal their allegiances and to give people hope. Why some foreigners think this country is ever joining anything is beyond me.
Joe is definitely pushing for war (wonder what he's got to hide in Ukraine, definitely not his and Hunter's human trafficking business). Still it doesn't sound like Zelensky is entirely sold on it, from what I keep hearing he's pussydicking around and trying to reach a compromise with Putin.
For reference (just ignore the obvious propaganda parts):
Of course he is pussydicking around.
The man got elected because of his popularity, which he acquired by starring in a comedy show about a schoolteacher who suddenly became president without knowing fuck-all how to run a country.
And this is all you need to know about politics in the Ukraine.
Ha, I knew he'd be running for president the moment I saw the show, it was a clever campaign. It's only appropriate that the president is a clown when the entire country is a circus. Still better than the Chocolate Baron mind you.
Ukraine won't join NATO. And anyone with half a brain agrees that the middle east was a giant waste of men and resources just to satisfy the globalists and fatten the pockets of a select few. So would it really be smart then of Russia to go, "mmmm, yeah, I'll have myself some of that as well"?
How many young Russians is Kiev worth?
Taking notes from the Canadian clownfest I see.
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It's a problem with Westerners and in particular a problem with the epitome of the West: Americans. Americans cannot comprehend that people would want to live under any other system than homo democracy, most will assume that people are only pretending to like Putin and that they're all afraid of him like he's Kim Jung Un.
Turkey was admitted into NATO, and they're still in NATO despite having increasingly anti-Western policy and receive constant Kurdish/Islamist terror. Not to mention facing a literal coup recently (although it was probably staged).
The thinking behind admitting Ukraine into NATO is delusional, but be fully prepared for hardpressed delusional russophobic foreign policy in the future.
Minor differences, I always thought of the Canadian clown as George W. Bush with a rainbow wig. He would've never got that job if it wasn't for his daddy.
People in the Russian opposition, liberals specifically, are also often deluded into thinking everybody in Russia hates Putin as much as they do. The Levada Center is by no means a Putinist organisation, and it consistently reports high approval. People all over the world have a really hard time understanding that not everybody thinks like them and their friends.
Turkey was accepted into NATO back in 1952. Somehow, I think attitudes have changed since then. I also think that giant international organisations are as reluctant to kick somebody out as they are to take somebody in: Turkey is already in, and so it stays in.
I will not hold my breath for it. Expecting more of the same.
Only about a fifth of the population of Ukraine thinks it is a good idea to launch a military campaign to get back Donbas. Even politicians who pander to the nationalists, like Poroshenko, would not like to go to war. Not only because it would go against people’s wishes, but also because it would give Russia an excuse to take the gloves off, and Ukraine has too weak of an army to resist it. Moreover, if Ukraine managed to take Donbas back militarily, it would be hard to convince the local population that shelling their houses was necessary and for their good. A full-scale war in Donbas instead of the current camping out in trenches is a bad idea all around.
Instead, they've resigned to working for pitiful salaries, having Russian passports with no registration addresses (literally, a hobo status and a need to carry an LNR/DNR "passport" along with you, otherwise you risk get a fine for having no registration address) and being overall much poorer than they were before Russia decided to stage this little "insurrection". Oh, and people aren't particularly happy about it either, it's just martial law continues there for 7 years now, so anyone who dares to disagree is going to "подвал" for a very entertaining discussion about loyalties.
This thread is a good idea, good to tag Russian simps and useful idiots. Please continue.
I did not insinuate their present situation was any good or that people enjoy living in no man’s land. However, I do think that people who are already resentful of Ukraine would only become more resentful if fighting broke out where they live out of Ukraine’s initiative, and I think this is one of the reasons the Ukrainian administration would like to avoid escalation.
It's not an insurrection, more of a liberation. If the nationalists don't like it, they can run away to Canada like they did in '45.
To explain the situation better to the Americans, think of the Ukrainian nationalist movement like the local version of BLM. They're a group of lumpenproletariat thugs and bandits being led and sponsored by foreign interests. They keep getting promised independence and land even though they have no idea how to manage it. They think they're a fighting force but end up being cannon fodder the moment they go up against anyone who isn't an unarmed civilian.
The sad thing is that it's been happening for 300 years now. Just in the 20th century alone they were Austro-Hungary's bitch, then the Nazis' bitch (led by that sodomite Bandera), then the ones that managed to hide out in the Carpathians after the Soviets purged the collaborationists immediately attached their lips to the ass of the American government, like we can still see today.
To explain the situation better to the Americans, think of the Ukrainian nationalist movement like the local version of BLM. They're a group of lumpenproletariat thugs and bandits being led and sponsored by foreign interests. They keep getting promised independence and land even though they have no idea how to manage it. They think they're a fighting force but end up being cannon fodder the moment they go up against anyone who isn't an unarmed civilian.
The sad thing is that it's been happening for 300 years now. Just in the 20th century alone they were Austro-Hungary's bitch, then the Nazis' bitch (led by that sodomite Bandera), then the ones that managed to hide out in the Carpathians after the Soviets purged the collaborationists immediately attached their lips to the ass of the American government, like we can still see today.
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They're also fermenting their own fifth column. The longer the people living in Donbass are treated like second class the larger the chance is for them to grow resentful. The Russians can try placating them, but the Soviet era proved how this is often at the expense of the regular Russian citizen.
How popular will it be to subsidize the citizens of Donbass at the expense of the Russian taxpayer?
Thing is, people in Donbass *are* culturally Russian and have everything in common with Russia and nothing in common (different language, different religion, different culture) with the degenerates out west who keep shelling them. They understand the situation and know why their legal status is currently as such.
Source: Friends from over there.
Edit: For reference, this map clearly indicates the split between East and West Ukraine along religious lines. The Catholic West Ukraine (former parts of Lithuania and Poland) never belonged with the culturally-Russian Orthodox parts.
Source: Friends from over there.
Edit: For reference, this map clearly indicates the split between East and West Ukraine along religious lines. The Catholic West Ukraine (former parts of Lithuania and Poland) never belonged with the culturally-Russian Orthodox parts.
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Almost all fifth columns have been culturally the same as the nation they're resentful towards. Not solving the situation might have worked for now, but just like the Covid lockdowns people are going to begin questioning how long the emergency situation is going to go on for. The worst situation will be if citizens both to their east and west are perceived to be more affluent, in which case the same resentment that brought down communism in eastern europe will erupt again
I understand the concern. My point is that when you're stuck between two sides and one side shells you weekly and the other one delivers supplies, you tend to ignore issues you have with the other side. Having to carry identification documents that give your family access to supplies and aid is a non-issue when your primary concern is dodging American-made mortars. It's hard to convey just how much your priorities change when you live in a war zone.
I'm sure fear is what's been keeping them in line so far, but Russia has a problem if they're not able to bring the territory to the same standard of living as their neighbors, that will cost money, which will come out of the pockets of Russian taxpayers. Russia needs to convince its own populace that Donbass is worth the resources, which the middle east brouhahas have proved is a difficult sell
Well, I don't know much about the politics of Eastern Europe, but I do know that the speech that people thought was gonna be about Ukraine ended leading to riots in Moscow because of something else, think it's related to some other political figure?
Here's a livestream:
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Dunno if this has anything to do with Ukraine as well, don't know Russian sadly.
Here's a livestream:
Акции за Навального. 21 апреля. Спецэфир Дождя
21 апреля сторонники Алексея Навального запланировали акции в поддержку оппозиционера. Власти Москвы отказались согласовать проведение акции. Сторонники Алек...
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