Donbass Conflict in Ukraine -

Badungus Kabungus

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Russia needs to convince its own populace that Donbass is worth the resources, which the middle east brouhahas have proved is a difficult sell
In this context Donbass makes a lot more sense than another senseless slaughter in Afghanistan, Nagorny Karabah, Chechnya or Syria. Those are Russian people there, and liberating them takes priority over helping some arab dictator hold on to the throne. Plus Donbass has strategic importance as a buffer zone.
 

KingCoelacanth

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How popular will it be to subsidize the citizens of Donbass at the expense of the Russian taxpayer?
This is what they did and have been doing with Chechnya for a while now, ever since the wars ended. It worked out pretty well, the cities were rebuilt and the people became placated (along with the semi-autonomous powers they were given)
Pumping money into Donbass and getting its industry recovered could be beneficial long term, however I don't know how much it would cost, how much it would take and how much has been destroyed beyond repair.
But, again, any kind of military intervention initiated by Moscow would only do more damage than good due to sanctions and pressure put upon it by the US and its allies.
 

Falcos_Commisar

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Instead, they've resigned to working for pitiful salaries, having Russian passports with no registration addresses (literally, a hobo status and a need to carry an LNR/DNR "passport" along with you, otherwise you risk get a fine for having no registration address) and being overall much poorer than they were before Russia decided to stage this little "insurrection". Oh, and people aren't particularly happy about it either, it's just martial law continues there for 7 years now, so anyone who dares to disagree is going to "подвал" for a very entertaining discussion about loyalties.

This thread is a good idea, good to tag Russian simps and useful idiots. Please continue.
Ohh yes.

The "separatist regions" of Ukraine were about to be militarily steamrolled by Ukraine until all those handy "tourists" showed up. Not they are even more impoverished shitholes than they used to be. Lol @ becoming rich from coal and lead mines in 2021. Russia only care about Crimea and that's a joke as Ukraine literally controls it's fresh water supplies for the near future.

Putin's little Ukrainian adventure kneecapped the Russian economy, FUCKED his military modernization plans (don't forget Ukraine used to supply all Russian marine gas turbines and helicopter engines and a good % of Air to air missiles) and made the normally spineless Europeans actually start to spend money on the militaries again.....

It's not an insurrection, more of a liberation. If the nationalists don't like it, they can run away to Canada like they did in '45.

To explain the situation better to the Americans, think of the Ukrainian nationalist movement like the local version of BLM. They're a group of lumpenproletariat thugs and bandits being led and sponsored by foreign interests. They keep getting promised independence and land even though they have no idea how to manage it. They think they're a fighting force but end up being cannon fodder the moment they go up against anyone who isn't an unarmed civilian.

The sad thing is that it's been happening for 300 years now. Just in the 20th century alone they were Austro-Hungary's bitch, then the Nazis' bitch (led by that sodomite Bandera), then the ones that managed to hide out in the Carpathians after the Soviets purged the collaborationists immediately attached their lips to the ass of the American government, like we can still see today.
Lol dumbass 😂

Go sick off Putin some more.... It maybe you're still made about Givi and Batman getting wasted 😜
 

NotSendingTheirBest

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Thing is, people in Donbass *are* culturally Russian and have everything in common with Russia and nothing in common (different language, different religion, different culture) with the degenerates out west who keep shelling them. They understand the situation and know why their legal status is currently as such.

Source: Friends from over there.
No, they do not understand. Or, rather, they do but they are resentful of the current situation and those who used to be actively pro-Russian are now completely apathetic, as they consider what Russia does a complete betrayal.

Source: still have relatives there.

To explain the situation better to the Americans, think of the Ukrainian nationalist movement like the local version of BLM.
Imagine parroting literal Russian agitprop.


Just in the 20th century alone they were Austro-Hungary's bitch, then the Nazis' bitch (led by that sodomite Bandera), then the ones that managed to hide out in the Carpathians after the Soviets purged the collaborationists immediately attached their lips to the ass of the American government, like we can still see today.

Are you Russian? You sure sound like one.

>bitch
>sodomite
>lips attached to the ass

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Badungus Kabungus

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Black army was based and you are cringe. Kruschev was best Soviet premier. Ethnic Russians should stay in Russia. Ukraine stronk, Russia cringe.
Black army as in the anarchists? Yeah they were pretty much the antifa at the time, a bunch of unwashed pseudo-intellectuals who considered themselves bohemian because they did not work and spent most of their time drinking, doing cocaine, and buggering each other. A much more interesting group was Baron Ungern's wild cavalry division, it's worth reading about.

Fuck off back to harkach, pidorashka.
Brave words for future cannon fodder. Assuming you're hiding out in Canada with the rest of the "true Ukrainian patriots."
 

Fanatical Pragmatist

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Ukraine is fake and gay, but Russia is also gay and cringepilled.

The fact Washington feels this gay little neighbor spat is worth spilling American blood over is the gayest and cringiest tho...
 

NotSendingTheirBest

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The fact Washington feels this gay little neighbor spat is worth spilling American blood over is the gayest and cringiest tho...
This is not a little neighbour spat. This is a limp-wristed KGB colonel distracting 140-something million people with dreams of ressentiment and imperial glory from utter failure in domestic politics.

Ukraine might be fake and gay but at least we're not Upper Volta with Nuclear Rockets.

And if Washington continues to ignore it, well, apparently some lessons have to be repeated, I guess.

Yeah, like your compatriots had to escape in '45 after we took Berlin, right? Too bad we didn't finish off all the nazi collaborators back then.
Tough words from an armchair general. I assume you're not going to hide under your mum's skirt when the military commissar comes-a-calling and telling you that you have to put on your цифра and a banged-up 74 to fight for "Russian mir", right? I don't think you'll get цифра though, more like дубок your dickwhore daddy served in.
 
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Badungus Kabungus

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If the choice is to fight to protect one's people, or to fight to protect Joe Biden's business, what would I choose? Hmm.

The only repeat will be of 1945, as Ukraine will be liberated from (real) fascism once again.
 
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