Donbass Conflict in Ukraine -

Techpriest

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So, two days after I started this thread, I have learned that we're on the brink of WW3 over the Slavic equivalent of a Hatfields and McCoys dispute. Is that the jist of it?
It goes a bit further than that. There’s also treaties from the dissolution of the Soviet Union involved with the denuclearization of Ukraine. Something the Ukrainians only agreed to if both Russia and the US supported their territorial independence. Russia violated it, but the US wasn’t exactly in a position to respond outside of sanctions and military funding and supplies to the Ukraine. The treaty also wasn’t as strict as NATO.

A lot of this is Putin trying to play tough to the domestic scene as he thought the Obama administration would shrug its shoulders and do nothing when the Crimea was yoinked. The Obama administration instead responded by directly targeting the oligarchy around Putin and brought the rest of Europe in on it, something that made the Russian economic situation (which was already not very good) even more precarious. Russian military modernization was brought to a screeching halt as all their planned purchases of various western military and industrial tech and equipment evaporated. They’ve had to go through the Turks for stuff. The fact is that Putin’s policy for Ukraine failed spectacularly. Russian military casualties were far in excess of what they wanted, demoralized the military as the Ukrainians fought hard and well. Russia’s useful idiots also nearly got NATO directly involved with the Ukrainian Civil War as they shot down an airliner full of Dutch nationals. The Dutch government was extremely close to calling for full article five involvement.
 

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Thing is, people in Donbass *are* culturally Russian and have everything in common with Russia and nothing in common (different language, different religion, different culture) with the degenerates out west who keep shelling them. They understand the situation and know why their legal status is currently as such.

Source: Friends from over there.

Edit: For reference, this map clearly indicates the split between East and West Ukraine along religious lines. The Catholic West Ukraine (former parts of Lithuania and Poland) never belonged with the culturally-Russian Orthodox parts.

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Theres a second ukrianian orthodox church thats actually recognized by other churches: the orthodox church of ukraine created in 2018. It was granted autocephely by Constantinople and that just exploded worldwide orthodoxy with political shit.
 

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Theres a second ukrianian orthodox church thats actually recognized by other churches: the orthodox church of ukraine created in 2018. It was granted autocephely by Constantinople and that just exploded worldwide orthodoxy with political shit.
Yeah, the Kievan Orthodox one. They got some drama over who's in charge now. Still vastly different from the Catholics in the west.
 

Badungus Kabungus

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Yes yes, Putin also personally pooped in your pants and stole your salo. You people need to take responsibility for your actions and stop blaming Putin/da jooz for everything.
 

NotSendingTheirBest

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Yes yes, Putin also personally pooped in your pants and stole your salo. You people need to take responsibility for your actions and stop blaming Putin/da jooz for everything.
You sound like a rapist blaming the victim that she "asked for it". I know you Russians are handicapped in empathy due to years of brainwashing, so perhaps it's a bit too taxing for you not to be a gleeful cunt about someone else's suffering.
 

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The Ukraine-Russo conflict is not worth the healthy bones of a single US Army Specialist.
no, it’s in America’s best interest to stall Russia’s growth especially when they’re being this uncooperative. Sanctions + aid to the Ukranians is a good strategy and helps ensure the Russians remain snagged and keep them with a GDP smaller than Austalia.

It would be preferable if China was knocked down a peg instead, but the economic relationship between China and America is too symbiotic to disrupt at the moment; unlike the relationship with Russia.

It’s not in Western interests to provide opportunity for rival powers to grow. Russia will never be an ally.
 

Badungus Kabungus

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You sound like a rapist blaming the victim that she "asked for it". I know you Russians are handicapped in empathy due to years of brainwashing, so perhaps it's a bit too taxing for you not to be a gleeful cunt about someone else's suffering.
Can't tell if uneducated or just trolling. You niggers started several bloody revolutions and destroyed large parts of the country because the Americans asked you to do so, and then you claim to be the victim. BLM thread is over there, you'll fit right in. They also burned the Auto Zone and then cried they had no tires.
 

NotSendingTheirBest

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Can't tell if uneducated or just trolling. You niggers started several bloody revolutions and destroyed large parts of the country because the Americans asked you to do so, and then you claim to be the victim. BLM thread is over there, you'll fit right in. They also burned the Auto Zone and then cried they had no tires.
Your attempt to appear as an alt-righter/nigger hater is just adorable. But please, please, keep doing this, as this definitely doesn't seem like you're trying to earn your 15 RUB.
 

NotSendingTheirBest

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If I wanted 15 rub I could just sell you twice.
And yet you're shitting up the place with the poorly localized Odnoklassniki patriotic community/Russian media rhetoric. So you're either working for your доширак, like a cheap whore you are or you just enjoy being a useful idiot for a leader that will grind you into dust on some forgotten battlefield should his ambitions require that.

You are going to answer your Motherland's call, right? You're not a coward like them "ukrops", right?
 

Badungus Kabungus

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And yet you're shitting up the place with the poorly localized Odnoklassniki patriotic community/Russian media rhetoric. So you're either working for your доширак, like a cheap whore you are or you just enjoy being a useful idiot for a leader that will grind you into dust on some forgotten battlefield should his ambitions require that.

You are going to answer your Motherland's call, right? You're not a coward like them "ukrops", right?
Ladies and Gentlemen, this is the Donbass conflict in a nutshell. On one side you have the people of Donbass who want autonomy and freedom from the corrupt government in Kiev, and on the other side you have outright fascists and naive children who bought American propaganda hook line and sinker, they are being made to think they're great opposition heroes while in reality they're just future organ donors.
 

NotSendingTheirBest

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Ladies and Gentlemen, this is the Donbass conflict in a nutshell. On one side you have the people of Donbass who want autonomy and freedom from the corrupt government in Kiev, and on the other side you have outright fascists and naive children who bought American propaganda hook line and sinker, they are being made to think they're great opposition heroes while in reality they're just future organ donors.
First of all, you're speaking to someone who actually ran away from the Donbas war, and I still have relatives living there.
Second - I still am waiting for you to define "fascism".
 
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