Dota 2 -

[Malagor the dank omen]

It surprises me that there aren't active LoL or Dota 2 threads around. I get that Dota 2 is Valve's new venue to sell hats specially since the introduction of battle passes and compendiums, but there is still a big and active community in Dota despite Icefrog's fuckery at changing the game so much. So let's start off with the usual questions:

• Favourite position/role.
• Favourite hero.
• You do soloQ or you have a 5 man stack?
• You go to the trench often?
• Favourite pro team.
• Favourite pro player/streamer.
• Who is the most balanced hero in the game?
• Fav strategies.

As well we can discuss strategies, complain about how OP skills/heroes are and how good we get at russian playing this game. Leg of Legends players allowed.

 

[Tryphaena]

Dota is great but I hate that every time I play it's a bunch of Chinese people that either can't or won't speak English.

 

[Judge Holden]

Only good thing DOTA gave humanity was providing Ricardo Milos some fagbeat to twerk his mulatto ass in sync with

 

[GrotesqueBushes]

I like doto. I can't play the game tho, cause playing at a certain skill level demands a significant time investment that I can't justify in my life any more.

 

[Malagor the dank omen]

I like doto. I can't play the game tho, cause playing at a certain skill level demands a significant time investment that I can't justify in my life any more.

You can just be filthy casual and enjoy pubs with a 3 or 4 man stack.

 

[GrotesqueBushes]

You can just be filthy casual and enjoy pubs with a 3 or 4 man stack.

Nah, what gets me is my own incompetence - I know my reactions, map awareness, ward coverage etc. are poor and way below the point when I've played dota a lot. Whenever I play, I'm frustrated at myself. And that can only be fixed by playing more, for which I don't have the spare time.

 

[The Reaper]

The... the thread sounded like such a good idea at first.

>Favorite position
Support, pos 5 or aggressive pos 4 who gets mobility
>Favorite hero
Crystal Maiden, so much control, and if you have good positioning and mana awareness you can doom an enemy team, especially with the update to her ult.
>Solo or group
Used to have five but that dropped to three, now my solo is better than my party
>trench
Don’t get the lingo
>Pro-team
Was MVP.Phoenix when they were around, but I usually end up supporting OG. I secretly want an SA team to make to Grand Finals just so the Peruvian Dota meme gets spun on its head
>Favorite Player
JerAx and his level of awareness in a match is ridiculous. He makes supporting more than just warding and stacking.
>Balanced heroes
This is tough, as I subscribe to the idea that no hero is balanced, but gameplay and teamwork counters what makes a hero imbalanced.
>Favorite Strategies
Level one ganks on offlane. Take two stuns or a few slows and you have a 30 second first blood.
Also pre 7.20 I used to pick up rings of regen or health just so my carry could hold them early and not have to go base.

 

[Malagor the dank omen]

Nah, what gets me is my own incompetence - I know my reactions, map awareness, ward coverage etc. are poor and way below the point when I've played dota a lot. Whenever I play, I'm frustrated at myself. And that can only be fixed by playing more, for which I don't have the spare time.

Man, i get it. I also get incredibly nervous when i play sometimes because i expect so much from myself. But you will still fuck up sometimes. I do it even if my 3 friends tell me i'm a damn good support with the best map awareness they have ever seen. Just don't go too hard on yourself for that.

The... the thread sounded like such a good idea at first.

>Favorite position
Support, pos 5 or aggressive pos 4 who gets mobility
>Favorite hero
Crystal Maiden, so much control, and if you have good positioning and mana awareness you can doom an enemy team, especially with the update to her ult.
>Solo or group
Used to have five but that dropped to three, now my solo is better than my party
>trench
Don’t get the lingo
>Pro-team
Was MVP.Phoenix when they were around, but I usually end up supporting OG. I secretly want an SA team to make to Grand Finals just so the Peruvian Dota meme gets spun on its head
>Favorite Player
JerAx and his level of awareness in a match is ridiculous. He makes supporting more than just warding and stacking.
>Balanced heroes
This is tough, as I subscribe to the idea that no hero is balanced, but gameplay and teamwork counters what makes a hero imbalanced.
>Favorite Strategies
Level one ganks on offlane. Take two stuns or a few slows and you have a 30 second first blood.
Also pre 7.20 I used to pick up rings of regen or health just so my carry could hold them early and not have to go base.

Yeah, i didn't expected the thread to start with that discussion. Also, here goes mine

>Favourite position
Support, position 5 as babysitter or pos 4 going agressive. If things are tough, might even go mid.
>Fav hero
Tidehunter is my all time fav. I also have a soft spot for Crystal Maiden and Dazzle.
>Solo or group
I have 4 buds that play Dota, but only one of them is reliable and always plays hard carries like PL, Magina or Void. One of these guys is always on Low Prio and he always picks Riki, Clinkz and Bloodseeker. I don't need to say that he sucks hard.
>Trench
It's Low Priority, where the russians gather. I get sent every once in a while thanks to my shitty internet connection.
>Pro teams
I'm not into the pro scene since last year.
>Fav player
Mine was SingSing until he quit. Now i'm looking for another one.
>Most balanced hero
Faceless Void is definetly the most balanced hero in the game.
>Fav strats
Play support and be aggressive. Help a lane and move to another. If you do this in the early game you'll secure your essentials and get a lot of XP
Also, i usually build urn in almost every hero. Now that it can be upgraded it's an amazing item

 

[The Reaper]

>Trench
It's Low Priority, where the russians gather. I get sent every once in a while thanks to my shitty internet connection.

Ah, almost never. The last two years the only low prior games I played were to get a friend out.

 

[OmnipotentStupidity]

Here's my experience with Dota.

Every time I play: it makes me hate myself for being such a piece of human garbage, and for being an awful player that drags his entire team down. Not helped by the fact that nobody else wants to play it, so I'm stuck solo queuing with other assholes who also hate themselves. Sometimes for those exact same reasons.

I've played games of League of Legends that were less of a toxic cesspool of self-loathing and aggression.

 

[Wendy_Carter]

Used to play Dota 2 for quite a few years. Taking a prolonged break (a full year in a few months), partially because babysitting people who can't see an incoming gank with wards set up is nerve-wracking, and partially because my current PC specs can barely run it at 30 FPS on low settings, even when nothing is happening.

Usually filled the role of either offlaner or support, but later transitioned into a support only role. Changed many mains over the years, but CM was the one always near and dear to me. During later years I mained a lot of Shadow Demon and Oracle. With Aether Lens and a cast range talent you could prevent Sniper from attacking anything before he could even shoot, thanks to Fate's Edict. Denying creeps as Oracle at level 3 was one of my favourites as well. The one time Valve decided to add a +5 second duration to SD's Disruption was amazing, because I could simply delete a single hero by myself. 7 second Disruption + Soul Catcher + 5 stacks of Shadow Poison (with decreased cooldown and increased damage talents) = instantly dead/severely wounded hero. People unlucky enough to be caught just asked "???" in chat, they couldn't comprehend what happened to them. People very much underestimate him, but a smart SD can kill somebody at level 1 all on his own.

I've played games of League of Legends that were less of a toxic cesspool of self-loathing and aggression.

I had a roomie who was an avid LoL player. Whenever something bad happened to him in a game or whenever he was frustrated while playing, he just YELLED AT THE TOP OF HIS LUNGS. I'm not kidding.

 

[Malagor the dank omen]

I've played games of League of Legends that were less of a toxic cesspool of self-loathing and aggression.

I had a roomie who was an avid LoL player. Whenever something bad happened to him in a game or whenever he was frustrated while playing, he just YELLED AT THE TOP OF HIS LUNGS. I'm not kidding.

Community is a huge problem in Dota and most people will tell you it's as bad if not worse than LoL. I've already seen how full of russians and brainlets this game is but some people should take it easy because you have to understand not everyone plays 24/7.

For example, my best bud the carry player is very good, but god damn if he rages hard when things don't go his way. I remember every time he plays Slardar or Void if he doesn't get a bash in the right moment he would scream at the top of his lungs how shit the game is, and get even more pissed if i tell him to calm down. My advice, try to find a niche group of people to play that know that they are playing a game.

 

[L'Homme de la Lune]

Take the redpill and only play Turbo.

 

[Tism the Return]

Dotes is great but I'm permanently stuck on a loop of not playing due to shit like tapping out before the match starts because everyone is aping the fuck out and the infighting stops being funny eventually. The one thing I can appreciate is that Memefrog fucks up the game in a less blatant way compared to shit like LoL which is balanced around what character sells the most shit rather than actual balance concerns. For the most part.

 

[Jeb-sama]

I played heavily since late 2011 until 2013. Quit because it was a huge time sink, but I still loved the game. Blows my mind that this was 7 FUCKING YEARS AGO. This info will be dated as fuck


>Favourite position/role.
support was what I was good at
>Favourite hero.
probably clockwork for those big dick hook plays
>You do soloQ or you have a 5 man stack?
solo. I could never get my old league friends to try dota
>You go to the trench often?
was trench MMR related or something to do with the abandoned game penalty? dotabuff says like 90% of my games took place in high skill, with the rest in v high skill
>Favourite pro team.
navi because they were the only western team worth shit back then
>Favourite pro player/streamer.
always liked puppey even though he was a raging bitch sometimes
>Who is the most balanced hero in the game?
always thought a lot of them were balanced. I don't remember anyone ever saying puck/veno/sand king were ever too strong or weak
>Fav strategies.
win

 

[Malagor the dank omen]

I played heavily since late 2011 until 2013. Quit because it was a huge time sink, but I still loved the game. Blows my mind that this was 7 FUCKING YEARS AGO. This info will be dated as fuck


>Favourite position/role.
support was what I was good at
>Favourite hero.
probably clockwork for those big dick hook plays
>You do soloQ or you have a 5 man stack?
solo. I could never get my old league friends to try dota
>You go to the trench often?
was trench MMR related or something to do with the abandoned game penalty? dotabuff says like 90% of my games took place in high skill, with the rest in v high skill
>Favourite pro team.
navi because they were the only western team worth shit back then
>Favourite pro player/streamer.
always liked puppey even though he was a raging bitch sometimes
>Who is the most balanced hero in the game?
always thought a lot of them were balanced. I don't remember anyone ever saying puck/veno/sand king were ever too strong or weak
>Fav strategies.
win

Damn, i still have a lot of nostalgia for old Dota before they nuked Bonerking and Bananamancer. Also, kinda surprising how many support players i have found in the farms. I guess we are not autistic enough for intensive farming.

Speaking about old meta and the times when i started (Around 2012) really bring up a lot of nostalgia when i sucked hard and i met my bud that eventually helped me become a fairly decent player. Too bad my other friends that played League didn't even want to touch Dota due to the time investment require to learn the game. I have so many good memories of those early days and now Dota has changed so fucking much...

And the Trench is Low Priority, the punishment you get for abandoning games of getting reported too much. They lump you with the russians and brazilians. And teh most balanced hero is Faceless Void.

 

[Tism the Return]

Also is admirallbuldog /our guy/?

 

[Fek]

Someone finally made a DotA thread, eh? Here's to the sperging this will no doubt generate.

..Incidentally:

Favourite position/role.

Whatever needs to be done.

Favourite hero.

From position 1-5:
Spectre, TA, Timbersaw, Pudge, CM
Obviously a couple of these can shift positions depending on the game.

You do soloQ or you have a 5 man stack?

3-5 stack regardless of ranked/unranked/arcade

You go to the trench often?

I've never personally been in low priority. If you're having trouble with it, I'd suggest the following:

1.) Ignore anyone who even remotely makes you suspicious immediately so you can focus on what you're doing. Your play should come before anyone else, because it's the only thing you have control over. Just make a mental note that they'll probably be useless and plan around it.
2.) When the need arises, use more creative insults that aren't widely used so the lessers from shithole countries (and sometimes the inbreds from the civilized world) either can't understand you or aren't mentally primed to go into outrage mode over it. You can even be funny while verbally lashing a deserving member of your team.
3.) Make sure you utilize commends to encourage others to commend you back. It helps keep your behavior score up.

Favourite pro team.

I bleed blue.

Favourite pro player/streamer.

Merlini (prior to "retiring" from the scene) showcased very impressive farming efficiency techniques from which I drew inspiration.
Artour (when he can be bothered to stream) displays an insane amount of map awareness and deep decision making that I also learned an awful lot from watching.

It's been years since I've really had the time to bother watching someone else play a video game (outside of tournaments), though.

Who is the most balanced hero in the game?

Looking over the (very) long term, I would argue heroes that never see terribly drastic changes (or that can be nerfed over and over and over and still be useful) are (and will likely remain) the more balanced of the bunch. Batrider and Dark Seer come to mind immediately as examples.

Fav strategies.

Winning the game in an efficient manner with as little bitching and moaning from overgrown children as humanly possible.

 

[The Reaper]

Damn, i still have a lot of nostalgia for old Dota before they nuked Bonerking and Bananamancer. Also, kinda surprising how many support players i have found in the farms. I guess we are not autistic enough for intensive farming.

It’s not that I’m not autistic enough to farm, it’s more along the lines that I can make things happen with fewer items. My one friend finds working with fewer items to be difficult, so he typically plays carry.

 

[Malagor the dank omen]

It’s not that I’m not autistic enough to farm, it’s more along the lines that I can make things happen with fewer items. My one friend finds working with fewer items to be difficult, so he typically plays carry.

For me it's the feeling of being capable of making the team work like a well oiled machine, even if i have to die in the fight to set up the win, it's worth it. Plus, i have very good map awareness and i tend to roam a lot in early game, but i need to get better with a hero that i have a huge gripe with: Earth Spirit. Still, my favourite hero to roam is Shadow Shaman: hits hard with his right click, very good disables early game and a strong nuke to follow up.

From position 1-5:
Spectre, TA, Timbersaw, Pudge, CM
Obviously a couple of these can shift positions depending on the game.

I also got my position favs, although i don't play carry much. From 1-5: Lotto Knight (i get insanely lucky with the crits), Tinker, Magnus, Windrunner and CM.
Also, how did ya met your stack? I met mine doing practise on bots.